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1987 Fleer Glossy tin set.... open or not?
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I have 5 1987 Fleer Glossy sets w/update sets unopened. Do I crack open and hope for PSA suitable cards? Bonds, Bo, McGwire, Maddux, Nolan all going for good money....or do I keep unopened?
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I bought 1 of each of those glossy sets off Craigslist a year ago for dirt cheap, so I recently opened them and got some gem candidates, so they will be going to PSA soon...I'd say if you have 5 of each, no reason you can't open some and keep the others sealed...
If you open any of the base sets, be on the look out for the Brown backs. I've found a factory set usually averages 1 Brown back per. There's like three of us on the planet that know about them so there's no market premium on them yet but they are a cool hobby oddity whose mystery hasn't been unraveled yet.
They don't stand out very well in scans but you can easily detect them in-hand. Here's a Bill Doran that had the effect just on a small portion of its back edge and is more pronounced than putting two cards side-by-side.
Arthur
ETA: I've only seen Brown Backs in '87 Fleer Glossy base sets. Not in Glossy Update sets and not in non-Glossy sets. Doesn't mean they don't exist though. I haven't exactly been ripping cases of product looking for them.
As you said, several of the guys will sell for good money in a 10. If you don't get a "gem" Bonds, you might get a Bo or a McGwire.
Rip a couple and see!
Oops McGwire in the Traded set.
Since reading/replying, I have found a local guy with 2 sealed Fleer Glossy sets for $65 each. Buying them tomorrow morning.
I really like the look of these cards. A beautiful design.
I remember when the 1989 Fleer Glossy set in the black tin box was high dollar, $150+.
Here's what I got;
Larkin not going to be a 10.
Nolan Ryan with a print dot. Saw a 9 on ebay with the same/similar dot.
Clemens, not too bad, but blue doesn't seem very dark. NOT a great looking card.
Canseco. This one looks too far off center for a 10. Nice looking card.
My guy Puckett. Hmmmmm 10 maybe?
Ozzie. Not one of the "big" cards in the set, but this might be the best looking card I saw today. Dark bold blue, card actually looks wet!
Bo. I don't know what to think. Kind of dull looking.
Didn't realize this was as desirable a card as it is. This looks like 10 material to me.
Finally the Bonds, I think it has a shot, not perfectly centered, but close enough?
Better images of the "big four"
I don't think the Bonds will 10 due to T/B centering. The front of the Bo looks nice but that's half the battle. You need clean edges on the back with no chipping, as well.
Arthur
I was wondering on T/B centering.
What do you think on the Clark?
In hand the Clark is obviously the best colorwise. The Jackson is the worst.
No 10's would suck.
I think the Bo has a great chance and is probable. The Clark all comes down to the back top edge and who you get for a grader. I've seen 10s with that and I've gotten 9s because of it. Roll of the dice.
Arthur
Great rip. I am with Arthur. I think the Bonds (T/B) will land as a solid MINT 9. The Clark RC looks perfect on the front and I think will PSA 10 even with the slight edge wear on the top back. Does the Bo have tiny print marks on the yellow banner at the bottom? If so, it is a solid MINT 9. If I am just seeing things, then it could 10.
Thanks for sharing!
Yes a couple of minute print marks on Bo. :-(
you glossy set was better then mine. I would be very satisfied if I got the cards you did. most of mine were off centered top to bottom.
Yes, I am happy the cards are attractive. It is frustrating when they at first appear to be gem mint and then might be worthless.
The Bonds in a 9 is worth $30-60.
Sorry your set was off centered. Hope you didn't pay too much for yours.
Top to bottom most likely puts Bonds in a 9 holder, but still a nice card
I guess I should have read all responses before posting, as others already mentioned the t/b centering on the Bonds..
No worries. I was worried about that. My favorite of the Bonds rookies.
I would still send the Bonds in. I don't "believe" it will 10 but I've also seen cards with centering that I didn't think would 10, 10, so it's worth the dice roll. Even in a 9 that's a nice card.
I've found that if a card is 50/50 in one direction they really allow you to push the 60/40 boundary in the other direction. What you can't do is have a card 60/40 in both directions.
Arthur
It will be going in. It's worth money even in a 9, and just as you said, it could get a 10 depending on the grader.
Thanks for the positive post!!
Joe