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edited March 20, 2020 10:27AM in Trading Cards & Memorabilia Forum
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  • orioles93orioles93 Posts: 3,479 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 17, 2020 6:58PM

    I know there isn't any other option really but it is quite unsettling that I won't get a very expensive group of cards back from reholdering for probably 2-3 months or more.

    Also will I be reimbursed partially for my yearly membership, considering there's going to be atleast a few months out of the year that I wont be able to use their services. It's like paying for a hotel for 4 weeks, only getting to use it for 3 weeks, but paying for all 4.

    What I Collect:

    PSA HOF Baseball Postwar Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 80.51% Complete)


    PSA Pro Football HOF Rookie Players Set Registry- (Currently 19.80% Complete)


    PSA Basketball HOF Players Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 6.02% Complete)
  • Kep13Kep13 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭

    I was getting ready to send in a quarterly special, but that ends at the end of march, so not sure how those will be handled either....I'll hold onto the cards for now and maybe the existing specials will spill over into the next quarter

  • On Monday I dropped off a 25 card sub for QS2, then I get the above email on Tuesday as well...crap. Oh well, just have to weather the storm now.

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  • VagabondVagabond Posts: 601 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 18, 2020 4:50AM

    No way they open back up on March 31st. People still aren’t taking this thing serious. Near my home is a park and all day there are people playing pick me up basketball games 5/5. We are about 10 days behind from Italy and if people still continue to make contact and not respect the virus, then we are just going to continue pushing these dates back further and further. Almost safe to say no National in AC this year either at this route. Total bummer.

    That being said, I have no problem with all non essential business’s being shut down at the moment. If that’s what’s gotta be done, then so be it. Please folks, stay safe and stay indoors and much as possible and/or away from others as long as possible and if not, then avoid close contact. That’s the only way this can stop from spreading at a rapid pace. Hopefully a vaccine comes out before end of summer.

    Stay safe everyone.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just recently learned that the C.C. grading vouchers have an expiration date,if this PSA shutdown gets prolonged longer than expected I hope they'll still honor any expired vouchers due to this.

  • Cs223406Cs223406 Posts: 147 ✭✭✭✭

    I was in QA2 check for a PSA/DNA order at 120 business days (almost made it!). Hope everyone stays safe out there.

  • ElvisPElvisP Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭
    edited March 18, 2020 6:39AM

    There won’t be a football season this year. I am not sure a return to normalcy will happen this year. Maybe PSA could secretly reopen and since they won’t be getting new orders maybe they could get caught up sometime next year?

  • If it helps anyone, this won't be 'over' for a very long time. I would personally not expect PSA to re-open until September. It's more likely to be later than that date than sooner.

  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭

    @charrrigan said:
    If it helps anyone, this won't be 'over' for a very long time. I would personally not expect PSA to re-open until September. It's more likely to be later than that date than sooner.

    What info do you have that makes you say that?? Or is it just your opinion.....

    chaz

  • The info is the medical expert assessments on the timeline of the disease and factoring in some amount of lag between 'getting past' it and removal of local ordinances. Would you like me to post links to that?

  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think September is quite pessimistic. China is mostly back to work now. What we may end up with is partial and focused shutdowns as "hot zones" pop up after the initial wave is over. This is my opinion as a non-medical expert.

  • mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭

    Most information being provided on social media, including on this very thread is not helpful in any way. These are people making guesses, making estimates, theories and opinions. It is feeding the panic frenzy which is already in overdrive. Saying that things will be down until September has not been declared by ANY government official and should be taken with a grain of salt.

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  • VagabondVagabond Posts: 601 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 18, 2020 10:20AM

    @gemint said:
    I think September is quite pessimistic. China is mostly back to work now. What we may end up with is partial and focused shutdowns as "hot zones" pop up after the initial wave is over. This is my opinion as a non-medical expert.

    China has actually been VERY quiet lately. Tells me things are probably worse over there than ever before. I don’t trust anything that China says.

    There’s nothing pessimistic about shooting for September. If anything, I find it to be wishful thinking. This is a VERY serious issues. Tens of thousands of people have already lost their jobs. Think Vegas alone. This is pretty bad.

    I’m glad for those who think this is gonna be done and over with or even controlled by the end of March but as I mentioned earlier, get ready because this is the first of many pushbacks to come. If you need references, just watch the news. About two weeks ago, we had maybe three states affected. Today, all 50 states are affected. It’s getting worse each and every day.

  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The F5 button on my keyboard is going to get lonely.

  • hyperchipper09hyperchipper09 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The goal posts will likely move again. There will come a point however in which the majority of Americans will have no choice but to return to work, etc. Imported virus from Asian country or no, the U.S. will only grind to a near halt for so long.

  • Vagabond generally gets it.

    The assessments that I am citing are from medical experts. I kinda understated it - the UK believes it'll reach into Spring 2021 (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/15/uk-coronavirus-crisis-to-last-until-spring-2021-and-could-see-79m-hospitalised) and the CDC's last guidance anticipates an 18 month pandemic. (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-virus-plan-anticipates-18-month-pandemic-and-widespread-shortages/ar-BB11ktjA).

    There are many outlets that have asked medical experts to speculate on a timeline. Yes, it is prediction and speculation. Yes, there are many variables that could make it longer or shorter. Yes, predictions have been wrong in the past.

    But, we still go with what we know now and make our best estimate of the future. That's how the world works. There is virtually no one in the medical community who thinks this will be even abating by May or be over anytime in June. When you look at the consensus, some people indicate August.

    My personal opinion, after considerable reading of high quality expert opinion, is that there will improvement by the end of August to the point where local ordinances begin to be removed. Remember: this wasn't PSA's choice to shut down. It was ordered of them by Orange County. Public health officials, especially in the aftermath of what will be a very serious disease with many deaths, with be understandably slow to repeal restrictions, even though it matters for economic growth.

    Gemint- all of this factors in what is going on in China, but to put it bluntly: we are far more like Italy than them in terms of societal structure and response.

  • mccardguy1mccardguy1 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭

    @orioles93 said:
    I know there isn't any other option really but it is quite unsettling that I won't get a very expensive group of cards back from reholdering for probably 2-3 months or more.

    Also will I be reimbursed partially for my yearly membership, considering there's going to be atleast a few months out of the year that I wont be able to use their services. It's like paying for a hotel for 4 weeks, only getting to use it for 3 weeks, but paying for all 4.

    This isn't fully aimed at the poster above but perhaps a general statement.....yeah...it sucks. But I guess I would rather wait for my stuff to return a little while longer and ensure workers and their family are safe and healthy than to be pissed off that there is going to be a delay in receiving my cards back. At some point the greater good needs to be thought of here than "my own need" to be taken care of.

    Its just cards people...cards that will be here long after we are all gone. Waiting a few extra weeks or months will simply insure we will ALL be here longer than just the next few weeks and months.

    I am on a budget and I am not afraid to use it!!
  • One last thing, there's no point in arguing, the point of my post was merely to try to help people out - as I think folks have been generally underestimating the duration of this this - and it could muck with people's planning if they assume that PSA's offices will be open in May.

    Happy to post links to folks way more qualified than me if people want to read more material on this. But not going to back and forth.

    Stay safe, everybody.

  • rexvosrexvos Posts: 3,304 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The problem that most people are having is they do not see the effects yet. We see numbers infected as low, this does not take into account a major lack of testing and the fact that a number of those that have tested positive are yet to show symptoms. People are going about their daily lives without considering that not only could they be in contact with several people who are not symptomatic but actually have the infection themselves. Until people see large numbers becoming symptomatic they will not change their life style, at that point it will be too late to flatten the curve. That is the issue we are facing and some are predicting doom and gloom.

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  • orioles93orioles93 Posts: 3,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mccardguy1 said:

    @orioles93 said:
    I know there isn't any other option really but it is quite unsettling that I won't get a very expensive group of cards back from reholdering for probably 2-3 months or more.

    Also will I be reimbursed partially for my yearly membership, considering there's going to be atleast a few months out of the year that I wont be able to use their services. It's like paying for a hotel for 4 weeks, only getting to use it for 3 weeks, but paying for all 4.

    This isn't fully aimed at the poster above but perhaps a general statement.....yeah...it sucks. But I guess I would rather wait for my stuff to return a little while longer and ensure workers and their family are safe and healthy than to be pissed off that there is going to be a delay in receiving my cards back. At some point the greater good needs to be thought of here than "my own need" to be taken care of.

    Its just cards people...cards that will be here long after we are all gone. Waiting a few extra weeks or months will simply insure we will ALL be here longer than just the next few weeks and months.

    I was more stating that it is unsettling to have high end cards just sitting there in an empty building on the opposite side of the country for an extended period of time. Trust me I understand what you're saying. It's for the better. I'm just stating that it makes me nervous not having them in my possession for this long.

    What I Collect:

    PSA HOF Baseball Postwar Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 80.51% Complete)


    PSA Pro Football HOF Rookie Players Set Registry- (Currently 19.80% Complete)


    PSA Basketball HOF Players Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 6.02% Complete)
  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 18, 2020 1:55PM

    @charrrigan said:
    One last thing, there's no point in arguing, the point of my post was merely to try to help people out - as I think folks have been generally underestimating the duration of this this - and it could muck with people's planning if they assume that PSA's offices will be open in May.

    Happy to post links to folks way more qualified than me if people want to read more material on this. But not going to back and forth.

    Stay safe, everybody.

    I'm certainly staying indoors unless absolutely necessary. I just learned yesterday that the virus has reached my county. The virus is a real threat and people need to stay inside unless they absolutely have to go out. If you do have to go out, then minimize your contact with other people and keep your hands sanitized. Also remember to keep your hands away from your face because that's how the virus enters your body, through the nose, mouth, and possibly eyes.

  • pab1969pab1969 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not to cause anymore anxiety but I would hate having my high end cards sitting in a closed business for an extended period of time. In my experience, it's only a matter of time before the looting and burglaries begin. California already lets criminals get away with theft. What happens if there is a burglary at PSA and the cards are stolen? PSA might not even realize that a crime occurred until weeks later when (if) they return to work.

  • hankcaddyhankcaddy Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    currently collecting baseball of
    2004 spx
    1989 topps psa 10
    1959 phillies
    Phillies of the 70's
  • mccardguy1mccardguy1 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭

    @orioles93 said:

    @mccardguy1 said:

    @orioles93 said:
    I know there isn't any other option really but it is quite unsettling that I won't get a very expensive group of cards back from reholdering for probably 2-3 months or more.

    Also will I be reimbursed partially for my yearly membership, considering there's going to be atleast a few months out of the year that I wont be able to use their services. It's like paying for a hotel for 4 weeks, only getting to use it for 3 weeks, but paying for all 4.

    This isn't fully aimed at the poster above but perhaps a general statement.....yeah...it sucks. But I guess I would rather wait for my stuff to return a little while longer and ensure workers and their family are safe and healthy than to be pissed off that there is going to be a delay in receiving my cards back. At some point the greater good needs to be thought of here than "my own need" to be taken care of.

    Its just cards people...cards that will be here long after we are all gone. Waiting a few extra weeks or months will simply insure we will ALL be here longer than just the next few weeks and months.

    I was more stating that it is unsettling to have high end cards just sitting there in an empty building on the opposite side of the country for an extended period of time. Trust me I understand what you're saying. It's for the better. I'm just stating that it makes me nervous not having them in my possession for this long.

    I get what you are saying. Nobody wants their valuables out of their control for longer than need be. I am certainly in that boat as well and totally understand where you are coming from.

    I am on a budget and I am not afraid to use it!!
  • mccardguy1mccardguy1 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:

    @charrrigan said:
    One last thing, there's no point in arguing, the point of my post was merely to try to help people out - as I think folks have been generally underestimating the duration of this this - and it could muck with people's planning if they assume that PSA's offices will be open in May.

    Happy to post links to folks way more qualified than me if people want to read more material on this. But not going to back and forth.

    Stay safe, everybody.

    I'm certainly staying indoors unless absolutely necessary. I just learned yesterday that the virus has reached my county. The virus is a real threat and people need to stay inside unless they absolutely have to go out. If you do have to go out, then minimize your contact with other people and keep your hands sanitized. Also remember to keep your hands away from your face because that's how the virus enters your body, through the nose, mouth, and possibly eyes.

    I just found out today there is one reported case in my county here in Southern Wisconsin and honestly, I am staying in as well. My wife is a two time cancer survivor and with her reduced immune system she seems to pick up "things" very quickly so my plan is to stay inside unless absolutely needed for the next week or so.

    Its a good thing I wrestled that 16 pack of toilet paper away from a few unruly shoppers last week. :)

    I am on a budget and I am not afraid to use it!!
  • MeferMefer Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭

    I have three orders in to PSA. All those cards are a distant second to the health of the public. I am not going to worry about it and just focus on myself and everyone getting past the pandemic.

    Matt

  • demondeacsdemondeacs Posts: 117 ✭✭✭

    They're back up tomorrow. Order rescinded. It's on PSA's home page.

  • sweet!

  • Yeah, just checked up on it. That makes me feel better, but I have a feeling that this set of circumstances may pop up again. I just hope they hustle!!!

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  • sjjs28sjjs28 Posts: 485 ✭✭✭✭

    Website just updated....
    Normal Operations resume on March 19th. Company did communicate the situation remains "fluid"
    Looks like my bulk order taken during the valley forge show still has a shot of popping around 80 days :);)
    Here's hoping!

    Steve Saldutti
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    Registered Sets: 1964 Stand Ups, 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game, 1969 Topps Decals
  • sjjs28sjjs28 Posts: 485 ✭✭✭✭

    Sorry ... Little late !

    Steve Saldutti
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    Collector of 1964 Topps Stand Ups, 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game and 1969 Topps Decals
    Registered Sets: 1964 Stand Ups, 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game, 1969 Topps Decals
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @charrrigan said:
    If it helps anyone, this won't be 'over' for a very long time. I would personally not expect PSA to re-open until September. It's more likely to be later than that date than sooner.

    Nice call Casey.

    This kind of fear mongering isn’t helping.

  • hyperchipper09hyperchipper09 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Goal Posts moved in. Works for me! :D:D

  • Dpeck, you want to make a bet on whether they're open on 9/1/2020?

  • Kep13Kep13 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭

    I don't understand how you can close everything down and a day later say, eh, it's okay for businesses reopen...are the Cali leaders on something?

  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @charrrigan said:
    Dpeck, you want to make a bet on whether they're open on 9/1/2020?

    I don’t like you.

    Your negativity gets old.

    I am surprised you made it past the moderator to get back on the board. Your alt got banned and now you are back spewing your BS.

    Whatever dude.

  • I’ll take that as a no.

  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @charrrigan said:
    I’ll take that as a no.

    I enjoy posting on this board. I am not going to take it further with you. You have earned the right for me not to like you.

  • Ok, have a good night!

  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭

    @charrrigan said:
    The info is the medical expert assessments on the timeline of the disease and factoring in some amount of lag between 'getting past' it and removal of local ordinances. Would you like me to post links to that?

    Sure but it is speculation at this point...nobody really knows....

    chaz

  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭
    edited March 18, 2020 8:41PM

    Also, I might add that I have a relative that is an MD and I was told that they are using a drug from Regeneron with good success for the most critical. It is an Arthritis drug and keeps the lungs from over reacting (fluid) to the virus and there are other medications that are in the works so we are making progress. They have 400 trials in progress so we'll see it being testing on a larger population.

    chaz

  • coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 18, 2020 10:49PM

    @Kep13 said:
    I don't understand how you can close everything down and a day later say, eh, it's okay for businesses reopen...are the Cali leaders on something?

    According to the new order, Orange county officials want businesses to practice social distancing and encourage telecommuting when possible.

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  • VagabondVagabond Posts: 601 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am glad they are continuing business. Can't say I saw this happening (as far as re-opening/continuing business during a pandemic) but it also makes me wonder if PSA put up a fight in regards to the amount of valuables that would be left in a mostly empty building with security personal watching over it. If something were to go wrong (theft or even inside job), it would certainly be a significant blow to PSA.

  • NGS428NGS428 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 19, 2020 7:25AM

    @Vagabond said:
    I am glad they are continuing business. Can't say I saw this happening (as far as re-opening/continuing business during a pandemic) but it also makes me wonder if PSA put up a fight in regards to the amount of valuables that would be left in a mostly empty building with security personal watching over it. If something were to go wrong (theft or even inside job), it would certainly be a significant blow to PSA.

    Right or wrong, I would have to expect that many businesses were not happy. Hence the revision...

  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @chaz43 said:
    Also, I might add that I have a relative that is an MD and I was told that they are using a drug from Regeneron with good success for the most critical. It is an Arthritis drug and keeps the lungs from over reacting (fluid) to the virus and there are other medications that are in the works so we are making progress. They have 400 trials in progress so we'll see it being testing on a larger population.

    chaz

    The President just mentioned Regeneron in the press conference this morning!

  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gemint said:

    @chaz43 said:
    Also, I might add that I have a relative that is an MD and I was told that they are using a drug from Regeneron with good success for the most critical. It is an Arthritis drug and keeps the lungs from over reacting (fluid) to the virus and there are other medications that are in the works so we are making progress. They have 400 trials in progress so we'll see it being testing on a larger population.

    chaz

    The President just mentioned Regeneron in the press conference this morning! So you gave us an early scoop right there!

  • According to Regeneron's CEO: "We hope to get started testing patients in June and manufacturing at large scale by the end of the summer."

  • RookieWaxRookieWax Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭

    If even just one PSA employee were to contract the virus...I think they would have to shut it down again.

  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭

    @gemint said:

    @chaz43 said:
    Also, I might add that I have a relative that is an MD and I was told that they are using a drug from Regeneron with good success for the most critical. It is an Arthritis drug and keeps the lungs from over reacting (fluid) to the virus and there are other medications that are in the works so we are making progress. They have 400 trials in progress so we'll see it being testing on a larger population.

    chaz

    The President just mentioned Regeneron in the press conference this morning!

    Great! It's nice to be ahead of the virus curve and shut that sucker down quickly !!

    chaz

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