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Cleaned, Whizzed, Buffed, show me your problem coins!
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The learning curve for new collectors can be expensive, so show us a problem coin that harms the value and explain if you can the amount lost due to the problem...
bob 
Here is a very harshly cleaned Morgan dollar, some will say it may even be Whizzed . Whizzing is usually done with a mechanical rotating wheel, like a dremel tool. 1888-o
This was a $40 coin and is now a $14 coin.
Here is a damaged coin: This dollar has rim damage and won't straight grade. 1878cc was $120 now $60?
Here is a polished example, note the "halos" around the stars. 1882-s, $37 now $14
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Do you think the 1878 $1 would straight grade without the rim damage? That big scratch, just left of Liberty's face, looks quite serious.
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Excellent post...This will help for the newer viewers,and the uninformed.
Thanks
I didn't see that! Yep, that scratch looks intentional and likely would hold it back...lol
bob
This bust half was cleaned (dipped) at one time recently, has acquired some secondary rim tone since but the rim bruise at 1o'clock makes it ungradable.
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Polished to hide scratches: $14 value now.
Certainly impaired. Scratched and polished. Value 25¢ now.
Purchased in an old PCI problem holder "whizzed" (red holder).
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Here's a coin I used to own. Got it stolen as well.
Great candidates for the melting pot.
Picked up for under melt. It was six dollars.
Wheel mark
http://www.ebay.com/sch/rs8199/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
toning hiding it? I don't see the wheel mark, can you point it out?
bob
Work of a wire wheel.
Very light scratches on the cheek area.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/rs8199/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
Could it be the marks over the cheek? Is a wheel Mark from a coin counter/rolling machine?
Very light thin hairlines that run from 1 o'clock to 7 o'clock across the cheek
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Tooled.
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Here's a whizzed coin I inherited from my father. I wonder what it looked like before the whizzing.
This coin was in my father's family while he was growing up in the 30's. It has had the rim dings for as long as he could remember. But back in 1968, as a 13-year old know-it-all, I decided it need a cleaning (along with the 5 old silver dollars our family owned). A toothbrush, some Comet cleanser, and a little elbow grease were all I needed to shine up the whole collection. The coin has retoned slightly but will probably always have that pallor of a once harshly cleaned coin.
Here's a Pilgrim that was cleaned and wouldn't straight grade. I had hopes for this one.
Jim
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a great thread and idea. missed it first time around.
I just learned about wheel marks from this thread and then read an NGC article about them.
I don’t understand why they keep a coin from straight grading. It sounds like a normal part of coin life and circulation and should just be taken into account in the grade...what did I miss?
Struck through or slashed through.
i'd say 99% of the errors happen while the coins are in the Mint's possession. 1% happen after the coins are released/shipped.
there are instances where an error may be exacerbated after leaving but not readily detectable. a planchet may crack a little further, a delamination may detach or rip a little further or altogether (clamshell, nearly split flans, for example), reeding wire and i'm sure several others.
numismatics cannot really count things that happen to coins/currency/tokens/medals etc in the area of errors after they leave because people can do anything to them, and some to try and errors aren't just some neat niche people made up, they are mistakes that happen at the mints/refineries etc and even bigger mistakes when they leave the mint. there are standards, quality control, guidelines, probably laws governing a certain standard/quality. so coins being released are all errors that deviate from the standards set forth. we may classify them errors, varieties etc.
ok, chased that rabbit enough.
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