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I miss Lebron James.

keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

I know that Lebron James is disliked by many members here but I sort of got accustomed to being able to watch him play with the Cavs. Since he's in LA now I don't get to see him play very much but this season looks like it might be good for him. I saw some highlights from yesterday's game and the guy still has what has made him special for so many seasons.

He still has the ability to take over a game.
He still has one of the best first steps in the NBA.
He is still strong enough to battle under the boards or get physical with anyone.
He still always seems to be in the right place.
He still has an understanding of the game that few plays have ever had.
He still has that Jordan-esque ability to defy gravity for such a large body.

I enjoy watching him play. Soon I will be able to do that when the playoffs start, this season they should be pretty exciting.

Al H.

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  • hammer1hammer1 Posts: 3,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 26, 2020 8:32AM

    I get to see him play here in LA.

    He is still awesome.

    Much like Kobe, he can will his team to a victory.

    He made an unknown short, balding, white guy (Alex Caruso) into a cult hero (ala Kurt Rambis) in LA. Alex was, and should be in the Lakers' D league. LeBron treats him the way he treats AD, with respect. Gets him the ball in crunch time. That boosted Alex' confidence so much that I used to say 'no don't put Caruso in.' Now I look forward to Alex's efforts off the bench.

    There are only a few game changers today. LeBron is definitely one of them.

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,083 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Regardless of what his critics think, LeBron is one of the all time greats.

    I am amazed at how durable he is. After missing a significant number of games due to injury last year he has been stellar this year. If he maintains his health for the next 3-4 years and continues to perform at a high level he will become the all time leading scorer, passing Kareem. I could see him reach 40,000 career points.

    After he retires from the game I expect that he will not let grass grow under his feet. He will transition to the next phase of his life and likely pursue that with the same effort he has given to basketball.

  • orioles93orioles93 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Always been a big Lebron fan. Not sure what it is people don’t like about the guy. Great player on the court, and a great person off of it. From what you hear, great family man, donates to a lot of charities, and does a lot in the community.

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My only problem with Lebron is with the fans calling him the GOAT....when in fact Jordan is the GOAT.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    After he retires from the game I expect that he will not let grass grow under his feet.

    I think a lot of what he does and where he ends up will depend on where his son is playing. I would assume that among other things Lebron may want to form a group to own an NBA Team, but I think he will do something for his "roots" in the Akron, Ohio area. pro players are funny, some worry about their Legacy and play past their time, others are forced out by injury and still others have career goals. I think Lebron has some of the latter that will determine how long he plays, again maybe concerning his son and his rank in the record books.

    he may also choose to surprise us all and retire when/if he wins a championship(s). one thing is sure, he still has gas in the tank and he's fun to watch.

  • hammer1hammer1 Posts: 3,874 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @keets said:
    After he retires from the game I expect that he will not let grass grow under his feet.

    I think a lot of what he does and where he ends up will depend on where his son is playing. I would assume that among other things Lebron may want to form a group to own an NBA Team, but I think he will do something for his "roots" in the Akron, Ohio area. pro players are funny, some worry about their Legacy and play past their time, others are forced out by injury and still others have career goals. I think Lebron has some of the latter that will determine how long he plays, again maybe concerning his son and his rank in the record books.

    he may also choose to surprise us all and retire when/if he wins a championship(s). one thing is sure, he still has gas in the tank and he's fun to watch.

    He has said he would love to play with his son.

    He moved to LA for a multitude of reasons. Wants to expand his entertainment business his advertisers pay him more when he is in a huge marketplace (LA or NY), he wanted to play for and have his be the retired jersey retired at one of the 2 (LA and Boston) most storied NBA franchises, the weather, his son going to a "basketball" high school where other NBA stars send their sons.

  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,057 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like Lebron. He's had a ridiculously amazing career. No one - lemme repeat that, no one - has ever been an elite player in the NBA for longer than Lebron. Not Michael. Not Kareem. Not Wilt. No. One.

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tabe said:
    I like Lebron. He's had a ridiculously amazing career. No one - lemme repeat that, no one - has ever been an elite player in the NBA for longer than Lebron. Not Michael. Not Kareem. Not Wilt. No. One.

    Don't know how you say that about MJ who led his team to 6 NBA Titles out of 8 years. That's 2 Three-Peets!

  • orioles93orioles93 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tabe said:
    I like Lebron. He's had a ridiculously amazing career. No one - lemme repeat that, no one - has ever been an elite player in the NBA for longer than Lebron. Not Michael. Not Kareem. Not Wilt. No. One.

    Agreed. Lebron has been an elite player for 17 seasons. Jordan was an elite player for 11 seasons. Lebron being 35 years old and still one of the elite players in the league is insane. He doesn't seem to be slowing down either. I see him having a handful more dominant years in him.

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  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,057 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @Tabe said:
    I like Lebron. He's had a ridiculously amazing career. No one - lemme repeat that, no one - has ever been an elite player in the NBA for longer than Lebron. Not Michael. Not Kareem. Not Wilt. No. One.

    Don't know how you say that about MJ who led his team to 6 NBA Titles out of 8 years. That's 2 Three-Peets!

    That's great. Also has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    part of his ability to play at this level has been his durability. until last season he hadn't really missed much time at all due to injury, maybe a smattering of a game or two during each season. that goes along with the extra time in the playoffs which means a couple of extra seasons when it's added up.

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @orioles93 said:

    @Tabe said:
    I like Lebron. He's had a ridiculously amazing career. No one - lemme repeat that, no one - has ever been an elite player in the NBA for longer than Lebron. Not Michael. Not Kareem. Not Wilt. No. One.

    Agreed. Lebron has been an elite player for 17 seasons. Jordan was an elite player for 11 seasons. Lebron being 35 years old and still one of the elite players in the league is insane. He doesn't seem to be slowing down either. I see him having a handful more dominant years in him.

    Just curious......how do you come up with these numbers 17 and 11 for elite years?

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 28, 2020 7:42AM

    I wouldn't speak for another, but here is where I suspect those numbers come from:
    --- Lebron James/17 year career.
    --- Michael Jordan/11 years with Chicago, the two short years of under 20 games aren't included and neither are the two years after he left the Bulls.

    Jon, there's no reason to get your boxers in a bunch over this, noone is saying anything negative about MJ. the point was simply made that Lebron James has played at this level longer than him. if you really need to you can say that MJ played at a higher level, but it is a moot point, Lebron has done it for a longer period of time.

  • orioles93orioles93 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @keets said:
    I wouldn't speak for another, but here is where I suspect those numbers come from:
    --- Lebron James/17 year career.
    --- Michael Jordan/11 years with Chicago, the two short years of under 20 games aren't included and neither are the two years after he left the Bulls.

    Jon, there's no reason to get your boxers in a bunch over this, noone is saying anything negative about MJ. the point was simply made that Lebron James has played at this level longer than him. if you really need to you can say that MJ played at a higher level, but it is a moot point, Lebron has done it for a longer period of time.

    Nailed it.

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  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,714 ✭✭✭✭✭

    for me it's his versatility

    depending on how Chris Paul's & Russell Westbrook's careers play out, do you guys realize that LBJ is projected to end up as high as 3rd all-time in assists?

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,057 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @keets said:
    I wouldn't speak for another, but here is where I suspect those numbers come from:
    --- Lebron James/17 year career.
    --- Michael Jordan/11 years with Chicago, the two short years of under 20 games aren't included and neither are the two years after he left the Bulls.

    Jon, there's no reason to get your boxers in a bunch over this, noone is saying anything negative about MJ. the point was simply made that Lebron James has played at this level longer than him. if you really need to you can say that MJ played at a higher level, but it is a moot point, Lebron has done it for a longer period of time.

    You can argue that Lebron wasn't an elite player as a rookie but that's just nitpicking and doesn't change anything.

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @keets said:
    I wouldn't speak for another, but here is where I suspect those numbers come from:
    --- Lebron James/17 year career.
    --- Michael Jordan/11 years with Chicago, the two short years of under 20 games aren't included and neither are the two years after he left the Bulls.

    Jon, there's no reason to get your boxers in a bunch over this, noone is saying anything negative about MJ. the point was simply made that Lebron James has played at this level longer than him. if you really need to you can say that MJ played at a higher level, but it is a moot point, Lebron has done it for a longer period of time.

    My bad.....I didn't realize MJ only played 11 years. James has already passed MJ in total points, but MJ has the PPG lead of 30.12 to James 27.9. I doubt he can over take that.

    They are BOTH GREAT players......I just like Jordan better.

  • ADGADG Posts: 436 ✭✭✭

    I think a year off from the playoffs has left James with a little more pep in his step this season.

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  • HorseHorse Posts: 675 ✭✭✭✭

    He lost me at The Decision.

  • cuda440cuda440 Posts: 150 ✭✭
    edited July 15, 2020 12:55AM

    lost all respect for LeBron James when he sat on the end of the bench during a crucial last-minute timeout pouting and throwing a fit like a crybaby in I believe was the 2018 Finals. A team leader i.e. Jordan, Bird, Kobe, Magic, etc would NEVER have made an utter fool of themselves they way Lebron did. No wonder Kyrie Irving no longer wanted to be on the same team with Lebron. Or when James made the cringeworthy statement: "that one right there made me the greatest player of all time" which other all-time greats would never do. Can't stand that arrogant ignoramus.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,490 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cuda440 said:
    lost all respect for LeBron James when he sat on the end of the bench during a crucial last-minute timeout pouting and throwing a fit like a crybaby in I believe was the 2018 Finals. A team leader i.e. Jordan, Bird, Kobe, Magic, etc would NEVER have made an utter fool of themselves they way Lebron did. No wonder Kyrie Irving no longer wanted to be on the same team with Lebron. Or when James made the cringeworthy statement: "that one right there made me the greatest player of all time" which other all-time greats would never do. Can't stand that arrogant ignoramus.

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  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I miss that diner that the mice in my kitchen operated, more than I miss Lebron. The diner had to close due to a shortage of cheese.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,490 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:
    I miss that diner that the mice in my kitchen operated, more than I miss Lebron. The diner had to close due to a shortage of cheese.

    😂😂😂. Also I see you changed you Avatar to Nessie!

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @doubledragon said:
    I miss that diner that the mice in my kitchen operated, more than I miss Lebron. The diner had to close due to a shortage of cheese.

    😂😂😂. Also I see you changed you Avatar to Nessie!

    Yeah, I decided to change my profile picture from bigfoot to the Loch Ness monster, Nessie. I've always been fascinated by those types of mysterious creatures. I'll use Nessie for a while, and then we'll see where it goes from there!

  • 76collector76collector Posts: 986 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I grew up in Akron. Lived there until I was 35 and moved to colorado in 2011. So, I enjoyed those Cleveland years as well. He is first and foremost blessed genetically like possibly no one before him, to be that height with his frame and so athletic. But you can't question the guy's work ethic. I don't think anyone puts more time, effort and thought into keeping their body in top condition than he does, and it shows. For a baseball example, imagine what the Mick's lifetime stats would be, had he taken care of his body. Basically he was shot by the time he was 32. LBJ has also worked on his game a ton, which I think you have to respect. I also think he has given more to the city of Akron than anyone that has walked on this earth before him, so again much respect for that. Some of his antics and comments he makes are nauseating though, but I give him a pass on them. I'm sure I'd say some stupid stuff if I constantly had a mic in my face and reporters looking for sound bites. He married his HS sweet heart, is super involved in his kids life, gives a ton to his community, stays out of trouble, and a pretty darn good basketball player too. I tip my hat to him, even though he broke my heart with "the decision".

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    @cuda440 said:
    lost all respect for LeBron James when he sat on the end of the bench during a crucial last-minute timeout pouting and throwing a fit like a crybaby in I believe was the 2018 Finals. A team leader i.e. Jordan, Bird, Kobe, Magic, etc would NEVER have made an utter fool of themselves they way Lebron did. No wonder Kyrie Irving no longer wanted to be on the same team with Lebron. Or when James made the cringeworthy statement: "that one right there made me the greatest player of all time" which other all-time greats would never do. Can't stand that arrogant ignoramus.

    ^^^This right here. He is such a tool. "I will be taking my talents to South beach". Such a humble event, right? What drivel.

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  • hammer1hammer1 Posts: 3,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 15, 2020 3:04PM

    Sort of like the dirty player everyone hates, until he plays for your team. Then, he is great.

    Case in point. I disliked LeBron for years. Now that he's on a team I root for, I see many good qualities I would've never seen before.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:

    @perkdog said:

    @doubledragon said:
    I miss that diner that the mice in my kitchen operated, more than I miss Lebron. The diner had to close due to a shortage of cheese.

    😂😂😂. Also I see you changed you Avatar to Nessie!

    Yeah, I decided to change my profile picture from bigfoot to the Loch Ness monster, Nessie. I've always been fascinated by those types of mysterious creatures. I'll use Nessie for a while, and then we'll see where it goes from there!

    Another mythical beast that has always fascinated me would be the bird with a dog's head. I know they exist because they've been photographed on occasion.

  • @hammer1 said:
    Sort of like the dirty player everyone hates, until he plays for your team. Then, he is great.

    Case in point. I disliked LeBron for years. Now that he's on a team I root for, I see many good qualities I would've never seen before.

    Nope. A dirty player is a dirty player. When he's on my favorite team, I might like the benefits, but he's still a dirty player, and will always call him that.

    I'm not saying LeBron is dirty, I'm just speaking about dirty players.

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