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PCGS graded Morten and Eden additions to my set ... very pleased 😊

bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 7, 2020 6:58PM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

Any O AE mint is scarce in ms condition.

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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,538 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice batch - congrats!

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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Remember this coin ? Rubberband kept it from grading higher .

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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    SURPRISINGLY this coin turned out to be the highest graded for the date at either PCGS or NGC !! B)

    DNB says this coin is "scarcer" in uncirculated than other dates of this period.

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    ncsuwolf74ncsuwolf74 Posts: 113 ✭✭✭

    @bidask said:
    Remember this coin ? Rubberband kept it from grading higher .

    I see this one about where it graded. I think the feel good story about this coin is that it was assigned a grade with the band mark LOL. That was your original concern :)

    "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."

    Jim Elliot

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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Common but a top pop at PCGS.... one better at NGC.

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 23,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Any more?

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 9, 2020 3:43PM
    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 9, 2020 3:50PM

    NCSUWOLF74 pointed out to me that the below is a variety 1870 FR/YF .

    It matches Morten and Eden description but apparently PCGS missed it !

    And so did I.........!!!!!

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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:
    Any more?

    More to come next week .😄

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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask said:
    Clearly a top pop and beautiful and fully original.

    6 star variety

    @bidask said:
    Clearly a top pop and beautiful and fully original.

    6 star variety

    When I added the above coin ( 6 star variety ) to my registry PCGS indicated I had “updated” and eliminated the 5 star variety . A real beauty as well .

    https://images.pcgs.com/TrueView/38090831_Medium.jpg?v=1581291277220

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    Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭✭✭

    These are some nice coins!

    @bidask - out of total ignorance about this series - what are you going for? Date run, date and mint, date and mint and assayer (are they the assayers or minters??)

    And how hard is this to do? Is it like assembling a set of Morgan dollars? Or way harder? Thanks in advance.

    My current "Box of 20"

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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bob13 said:
    These are some nice coins!

    @bidask - out of total ignorance about this series - what are you going for? Date run, date and mint, date and mint and assayer (are they the assayers or minters??)

    There 1105 coins in the registry .... oh boy ! ( I’m shooting for the stars )

    I have completed maybe 22% so far
    Including what I still need to cross from NGC

    Registry : Collection from the West

    And how hard is this to do?

    Very hard .... Virtually impossible .

    Is it like assembling a set of Morgan dollars? Or way harder?

    Yes way harder

    Thanks in advance.

    Your welcome .

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




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    AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask I never thought on comparing them with Morgans. It has to be 100 times harder...

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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 23,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask has been training for this project all his life. Game on!

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
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    Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Makes bust halves by Overton number look like child’s play! Wow.

    My current "Box of 20"

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    pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 11, 2020 12:13AM

    There are several coins in which there are but one known (eg. 1870-ZsYH), several others that are very rare (eg. 1866-CaFP), and still others that are extremely rare (eg. 1827-PiSA).

    I can tell you with absolute certainty that you will never complete the set. Nobody ever has. (Perhaps JB Parker completed the set. But I heard statements to the contrary, so I’m not sure.)

    But you will absolutely have fun trying. And you should! B)

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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh man I get some really decent grades on my second batch of some really rare cap&rays 8 R

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




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    scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats! It’s been fun to watch as you unveil them. Do the grading results make you wish you had been more aggressive with bidding, or did you generally get the ones you needed?

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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @scubafuel said:
    Congrats! It’s been fun to watch as you unveil them. Do the grading results make you wish you had been more aggressive with bidding, or did you generally get the ones you needed?

    Thank you .

    I need a total of 1105 coins .🤪

    I know I was complaining with the competion I had at the Morten Eden auction in London ( bidding against specialist dealers in the same room)

    But now wish I had bid stronger than I had
    ........which was originally very strong 🤨

    May not ever get a chance again to do so for some of those dates .

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:
    @bidask has been training for this project all his life. Game on!

    At the time of this auction I was not fully aware of the collector behind the sale of the Mexican Morten and Eden sale November 2019.

    Recently ( like in the last couple days ) over a few glasses of wine Mr Eureka confirmed they belonged to none
    other than :

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @scubafuel said:
    Congrats! It’s been fun to watch as you unveil them. Do the grading results make you wish you had been more aggressive with bidding, or did you generally get the ones you needed?

    Absolutely!

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




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    AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask said:

    @MrEureka said:
    @bidask has been training for this project all his life. Game on!

    At the time of this auction I was not fully aware of the collector behind the sale of the Mexican Morten and Eden sale November 2019.

    Recently ( like in the last couple days ) over a few glasses of wine Mr Eureka confirmed they belonged to none
    other than :

    Really? Completely unaware.

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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Abuelo said:

    @bidask said:

    @MrEureka said:
    @bidask has been training for this project all his life. Game on!

    At the time of this auction I was not fully aware of the collector behind the sale of the Mexican Morten and Eden sale November 2019.

    Recently ( like in the last couple days ) over a few glasses of wine Mr Eureka confirmed they belonged to none
    other than :

    Really? Completely unaware.

    yes sir

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




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    AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have several coins from the sale, but none of my envelopes have his name.

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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Abuelo said:
    I have several coins from the sale, but none of my envelopes have his name.

    Neither did mine .....the envelope shown is from another purchase not Morten & Eden sale.....but I trust Mr Eureka knows
    what he is talking about..... afterall he's a coinhound

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
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    pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Abuelo said:

    @bidask said:

    @MrEureka said:
    @bidask has been training for this project all his life. Game on!

    At the time of this auction I was not fully aware of the collector behind the sale of the Mexican Morten and Eden sale November 2019.

    Recently ( like in the last couple days ) over a few glasses of wine Mr Eureka confirmed they belonged to none
    other than :

    Really? Completely unaware.

    How could you not know? All those coins in the sale that said plate coins in the Hookneck book, of which he was co-author. I thought that was a dead giveaway!

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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:

    @Abuelo said:

    @bidask said:

    @MrEureka said:
    @bidask has been training for this project all his life. Game on!

    At the time of this auction I was not fully aware of the collector behind the sale of the Mexican Morten and Eden sale November 2019.

    Recently ( like in the last couple days ) over a few glasses of wine Mr Eureka confirmed they belonged to none
    other than :

    Really? Completely unaware.

    How could you not know? All those coins in the sale that said plate coins in the Hookneck book, of which he was co-author. I thought that was a dead giveaway!

    I did not connect the dots .

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,538 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:

    @Abuelo said:

    @bidask said:

    @MrEureka said:
    @bidask has been training for this project all his life. Game on!

    At the time of this auction I was not fully aware of the collector behind the sale of the Mexican Morten and Eden sale November 2019.

    Recently ( like in the last couple days ) over a few glasses of wine Mr Eureka confirmed they belonged to none
    other than :

    Really? Completely unaware.

    How could you not know? All those coins in the sale that said plate coins in the Hookneck book, of which he was co-author. I thought that was a dead giveaway!

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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I lucked out because I was there in person to judge for myself ( with the help of Mr Eureka ) conditions/grades of the mostly raw coins that were auctioned.

    I am thinking lots of bidders online may not have participated as much because many of the coins were raw and some had problems.

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Outrageous

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




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    AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:

    How could you not know? All those coins in the sale that said plate coins in the Hookneck book, of which he was co-author. I thought that was a dead giveaway!

    Never even thought about it. But makes sense. Not just the Hooknecks but also the insane quality of the coins. I am sure took him a century (literally) to collect them. That being the case, I am glad that he was able to see the success of the sale.

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    pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Abuelo said:

    @pruebas said:

    How could you not know? All those coins in the sale that said plate coins in the Hookneck book, of which he was co-author. I thought that was a dead giveaway!

    Never even thought about it. But makes sense. Not just the Hooknecks but also the insane quality of the coins. I am sure took him a century (literally) to collect them. That being the case, I am glad that he was able to see the success of the sale.

    Another giveaway, though less obvious, was the fact that many of the coins were bought in the 1960s (and I think a few may have been purchased in the 1950s), per the auction notes. Who else would have such a nice collection (and still holding) from way back then?

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    AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas ok ok

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