Little help identifying some German coins?

ShadyDave

Couldn’t find these coins on numista and I don’t have the 18th century KM to track them down. Any help?

Kliao

I think this is the first one
From Numista
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces181270.html

Kliao

And I believe I found the second one.
Still numista
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces27222.html

Oldhoopster

First coin is from the Bishopric of Hildesheim, KM109 as listed in the Krause Catalog of German Coins. Numista lists KM109 as the 1/24 Thaler, which I believe is a mistake.

That is the wrong coat of arms for Paderborn. @Kliao has the second coin correctly identified.

IMPORTANT: Flatten the staples on your 2x2s. Depending on your storage method, there is a good chance they can tear through the thin Mylar of another 2x2 and damage other coins if stacked or stored in boxes

Tibor

IMPORTANT: Flatten the staples on your 2x2s. Depending on your storage method, there is a good chance they can tear through the thin Mylar of another 2x2 and damage other coins if stacked or stored in boxes

Excellent advice!!

neildrobertson

@Oldhoopster said:
First coin is from the Bishopric of Hildesheim, KM109 as listed in the Krause Catalog of German Coins. Numista lists KM109 as the 1/24 Thaler, which I believe is a mistake.

That is the wrong coat of arms for Paderborn. @Kliao has the second coin correctly identified.

IMPORTANT: Flatten the staples on your 2x2s. Depending on your storage method, there is a good chance they can tear through the thin Mylar of another 2x2 and damage other coins if stacked or stored in boxes

What this guy said

ShadyDave

Thanks to all who posted, much appreciated! Not sure why I couldn't find these two coins, I usually can track these down pretty easy.

@Oldhoopster Thanks for the advise on flattening the staples. I use to flatten them w/ needle nose plyers. As my collection grew it became too bulky to store everything in 2x2 boxes (over a dozen of them) so I moved to 3" ring binders with 2x2 page inserts. There isn't much risk of staple scratches these days, but thanks for the reminder!

neildrobertson

I found the book Germanic Coinage by William Craig ( https://www.coinbooks.org/v20/esylum_v20n50a05.html ) to be really helpful in being able to identify German coats of arms for any aspiring German collectors.

Oldhoopster

@neildrobertson said:
I found the book Germanic Coinahe by William Craig ( https://www.coinbooks.org/v20/esylum_v20n50a05.html ) to be really helpful in being able to identify German coats of arms for any aspiring German collectors.

The Krause catalogs have some coat of arms listed as well.

Another trick I use is to go to MA Shops and type the legend or date/denomination into the search function. Since there are lots of European dealers on there, I can usually come up with something. I've also done this for late Medieval coins with moderate success. Even if I can't find it an exact match, it usually points me in the right direction. Plus, some dealers will list an attribution to specialized references that I don't have in my library.