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Probably been brought up before. Was I out of line to require shipping in a trade to cross in mail?

SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭

The person has 200+ post, we are trading coins for coins, and they are on vacation till Tuesday.
Neither of us have dealt with each other before.
I asked if he was willing to cross ship and he said yes, then told me he was on vacation till Tuesday.
Yet he wanted me to ship so it would be waiting for him when he got home.
Was I wrong to not want to ship and wait till we both ship on same day?
Thanks for your input.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How would each of you ensure that the other has done as agreed upon at the same time?

    Perhaps one of you can provide references that would put the other at ease - to the extent of feeling comfortable shipping first.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I asked if he was willing to cross ship and he said yes

    Not much to discuss - this was the deal agreed upon, essentially a contract.
    The other person was changing the terms of the contract, and
    you didn't approve. The end.

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  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are we talking big money coins here or small time widgets?

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,801 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The specific terms don't really matter, as long as you both agree to them. If not, it's not really a good business deal.

    No matter how careful you are, every transaction relies on trust at some point,

  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinstartled said:
    Are we talking big money coins here or small time widgets?

    800.00

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For $800 I would pass as well.

    Probably wouldn't even agree to the cross ship arrangement with a member with only 200 posts.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Don't you have a cartoon to be in...

    :*

  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Coinstartled said:
    For $800 I would pass as well.

    Probably wouldn't even agree to the cross ship arrangement with a member with only 200 posts.

    Not everyone posts that much in less than a week.😉

    That was an awesome post. Well done and extremely funny!

  • DavideoDavideo Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭

    Simultaneously mailing can't be enforced and really does nothing to prevent being scammed. But if that was agreed upon, then sure you can stick to it.

  • MilesWaitsMilesWaits Posts: 5,375 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you for posting this question. I was thinking about exchanging an ounce of palladium for some platinum on the BST but then I thought do I really want to go through the hassle?

    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 25, 2020 8:02AM

    All good, he backed out and sold to someone else, so much for his agreeing to cross ship.

  • AhrensdadAhrensdad Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭

    I agree with you. The deal was you both ship at the same time. I’d wait or walk.

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  • MilesWaitsMilesWaits Posts: 5,375 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lucky you!

    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
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  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭

    was trading with a person here on this board a good while back he wanted silver I wanted toners for my circulated sets. (he has passed away now sadly) The first trade he replied with a tracking number right away and so did I. We did 10 or so trades. I think your better off that the deal did not work out in all honesty.

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 25, 2020 1:50PM

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    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ms70 said:
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    Huh?

    Ken
  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Who proposed the trade? I feel they should ship first.

  • fox9487fox9487 Posts: 300 ✭✭✭

    @Coinstartled said:
    For $800 I would pass as well.

    Probably wouldn't even agree to the cross ship arrangement with a member with only 200 posts.

    That is a very interesting view point and very telling. Your only basing a transaction based on quantity of mouth instead of fact, truth and actual performance. I wonder who else that could bring to mind.

    Guess that is why I went to my LCS today and sold a $100 face of ebay bucks purchased 90% silver for 11x face instead of listing in the bullion sell thread for 12/ 12.5x face. I just don't have enough post count I guess even though I have been a decent amount of time member and have had successful transactions with well established members here.

    Sometimes it is just not worth the hassle.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 26, 2020 4:32AM

    @sparky64 said:
    You are not out of line imo.

    I am also curious how one ensures simultaneously mailing.

    Very select group of names here that I would leave $800 to blind trust.

    You can't. It's a ridiculous paranoid condition. Let's say we go all the way and we're on the phone with each other mailing the packages simultaneously. If the other party isn't trustworthy, the package could be empty.

    An unenforceable rule isn't worth having.

    Either trust each other or pay 3% for insurance by having each person Paypal $800 to the other. "Cross shipping " is an exercise in self-delusion.

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,549 ✭✭✭✭✭

    10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 SHIP. If you have to ask, the trust isn’t there.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Flackthat said:
    I would have passed on the deal, I barely have 200 posts and I would never expect someone with nearly 10k posts to ship first, fishy.

    Post count is a worthless metric. We have had posters with high post counts go rogue (e.g. Kryptonitecomics).

  • fox9487fox9487 Posts: 300 ✭✭✭

    @Coinstartled said:
    Don't you have a cartoon to be in...

    :*

    That's what I was thinking too...about you.

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