New Variety discovery?

joeykoins

Hi guy's, Pictured are two 2000d's. Could we have a possible new "Wide AM" Variety? Check out the separation in the AM. Sure, it's a slight difference but it is a difference. Also, the letters are different. The one"A" is more fatter than the other. Also, I have pictured the word, " Pluribus". Notice the different letters as well. What do you guy's think? Thanks in advance.

Update: While still going through rolls, I found another one. The AM sure looks attached compared to the other that's not?

derryb

IMHO different dies, same spacing

Oldhoopster

Good pics.
IMO, it looks like there is some MD that makes the gap look slightly larger. You can see it on the F as well as the A. This also accounts for the thinner A. So I don't believe it's a new discovery

jmlanzaf

Actually, I think it's just worn. Look at the e pluribus unum. The letters there also look thicker. But that's what happens when a coin wears.

joeykoins

@jmlanzaf said:
Actually, I think it's just worn. Look at the e pluribus unum. The letters there also look thicker. But that's what happens when a coin wears.

Really? Is that a known fact that as times goes by on a certain coin being worn, the letters get fatter? Huh?
Thanks

Jimnight

Look to the designer's initials.

LJenkins11

I cannot speak to the possibily of a variety but your photos are great.

joeykoins

@Jimnight said:
Look to the designer's initials.

Great shots! Thanks for the info pictured, but I'm aware of the famous AM's. Mine isn't that pronounced but still a slight spacing compared to my other one. If you notice on some of the famous three (1998,1999 and 2000P's) some spacing isn't that pronounced as well. Esp. the 1998p

Hemispherical

Interesting.

A hint of die deterioration doubling on the A.

http://www.error-ref.com/die-deterioration-doubling/

JBK

@joeykoins said:
Great shots! Thanks for the info pictured, but I'm aware of the famous AM's. Mine isn't that pronounced but still a slight spacing compared to my other one. If you notice on some of the famous three (1998,1999 and 2000P's) some spacing isn't that pronounced as well. Esp. the 1998p

As I understand it, the reason for the two varieties on the known AMs is that for some business strikes, proof hubs/dies wee used. There is a verifiable and justifiable difference.

For normal coins, as dies get used and overused, the details can get mushy or appear widened as the dies wear. Or, if the dies are polished, then lettering may appear thinner or wider apart,

joeykoins

@JBK said:

@joeykoins said:
Great shots! Thanks for the info pictured, but I'm aware of the famous AM's. Mine isn't that pronounced but still a slight spacing compared to my other one. If you notice on some of the famous three (1998,1999 and 2000P's) some spacing isn't that pronounced as well. Esp. the 1998p

As I understand it, the reason for the two varieties on the known AMs is that for some business strikes, proof hubs/dies wee used. There is a verifiable and justifiable difference.

For normal coins, as dies get used and overused, the details can get mushy or appear widened as the dies wear. Or, if the dies are polished, then lettering may appear thinner or wider apart,

Yeah, your the second member to explain this is probably the cause. Thanks guy's. You two guy's are probably correct?

joeykoins

@Hemispherical said:

Interesting.

A hint of die deterioration doubling on the A.

http://www.error-ref.com/die-deterioration-doubling/

True. I didn't notice about the slight doubling, cool!

Jimnight

@joeykoins

I once thought for sure I found a 1997 wide AM ... there was a definite gap ... but the designer's initials matched the closed AM ... my point is where did the gap come from?

JBK

@Jimnight said:
@joeykoins

I once thought for sure I found a 1997 wide AM ... there was a definite gap ... but the designer's initials matched the closed AM ... my point is where did the gap come from?

Check the thickness of the letters, Were they on the thin side? If so then the die may have been polished down, which would have polished away the widest/bottom part of the letters, thus increasing the gap.