Rouble 1924, Soviet Union
Redfox
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Hi there,
I've been looking for a 1924 Rouble for a long time. Finally I've bought one! I'd like to share it with you, and read your thoughs about it. Also, I have two questions.
A. Do you think that there is a pin scratch on a close-up (on the upper left part of the reverse near the rim)?
B. How do you feel about patina? The green specks made me thinking that it may not be entirely original.
Thanks,
Redfox
P.S. It is Ms-63.
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Nice Rouble. I have an example of that piece, too. The toning on yours is a little dark for my taste, but I think that's a personal preference. This is the obverse of my piece.
https://bishopricquid.com/
It’s super nice and pleasing toning. These are very difficult to find nice looking
May look washed out......to me.
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Here’s mine.
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@tbishopric
Nice one! Can you post a reverse?
My taste for heavy patina comes from my like for coins as they are. That they haven't been altered in any way, i.e. dipped
@coinsarefun
Wow! That is all I can say seeing this gorgeous patination. And also seeing details fully struck and intact.
This "washed out" look I would attribute to dies of this design being worn down. It is pretty clear looking at spikes of wheat on the reverse, right to the globe.
Moreover I think that it must have been struck forward the end of the production, looking at the chiped ( in a few places) rim.
I love the toning.
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I collect early USSR coins, have the whole early 1920's type set in BU including the stinker 5 kopek in bronze.
Nice coins.
OP's coin: if it passed PCGS I'd be OK with it, so unless you just don't like the look I would not lose sleep over it (are you sure that scratch isn't isn't on the plastic?). As for the skin - I assume it is original with all that is going on there.
I really like it - too many of these are bright white having been dipped out.
Hard for me to see the scratch.
My current "Box of 20"
Here's the reverse of mine. PCGS MS-63
https://bishopricquid.com/
Am I the only one who doesn't have one of these?
@SaorAlba
. I really like the way you put your signature on the lower rim of the obverse.
A very nice rouble, although not exactly in my type (being "blast white")
@JBK
I believe it is on the coin itself. It doesn't bother me that much, but I wanted to ask others for an opinion. And let's be honest: graders are people, and thus sometimes they may omit a damage, or deem coin "valuable enough" to overlook it.
Don't worry. In my view this specific piece is not widely popular, or recognised. There are very few discussions devoted to the 1924 Rouble, be it Collectors Universe, Cointalk, or any other forum. At least compared to Morgans, Peace Dollars, or UK Crowns 😉.
@Bob13
Yeah, it's a pain in the ass finding one with any patina at all 😆. I had been looking for about 9 months for a piece like the one that I had posted.
@tbishopric
Beautiful reverse. I really like that the details are sharp. My own rouble is a bit weak, especially on spikes of wheat, next to the globe.
The one in the original post looks good to me. There might be a small scratch, but I wouldn't have found anything unless it was pointed out. Plus, it's market acceptable for the grade.
Here is one I used to own:
I can help you out with that.
I made two visits to France about 1993, a few years after the fall of the old Soviet Union.
Every dealer had five to ten of these, even the flea market guys. I bought two nice ones.
Things that happen when young make it difficult to chase after things that are pricier today.
It was a hell of a great time to go into banks and buy gold in Paris and Amsterdam then also. Picked up $20s, Napoleons etc for spot. I haunted the Bourse area of Paris.
On the north end, where the Rue Vivienne meets the Boulevard Haussmann, I visited several coin shops. The banks further south (closer to the Bourse) I could only look at the nice gold things in their security windows. I was lucky have the funds to be there in the first place, let alone buying gold coins! I was limited to silver and was looking for nice five francs coins, mostly Nappy through Louis Phillipe. Back then, there were many book sellers in the north end vicinity too.
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I like it... I posted mine here within the past year after it was graded by our host
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Love this type. This is the coolest one we've ever had - came out of a group lot in a Coin Galleries sale if memories serves:
https://www.coinraritiesonline.com/index.php?page=archive&task=det_item&item_id=3889
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So looks like someone got this coin into a 66 holder...
Then auctioned it in Poland...
https://aukcje.gndm.pl/auction/10/category/885271/lot/6562?lang=en
And now it is on its way to me! Been looking for one of this type and spotted this before realizing it was the CRO coin above! True view:
My current "Box of 20"
That's awesome!
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Love these. I find the @redfox example in the OP attractive, with that toning.
Mine is a middle-of-the-road, off-white MS62. I was pleased with it, for the money. I could have gone with a 63 or 64 but ended up with this, which was the best intersection of budget and eye appeal for me at the time.