1852 half cent fake? weighs right

georgepatrick

looks fake to me looking at the date but looks like clogged die or something between states and of on the reverse

jmlanzaf

@georgepatrick said:
acording to an article i read,the night watchman at the mint secretley made batches of these coins to sell to collectors.

Those batches would be struck and indistinguishable from the real thing - if the story is true.

The misshapen letters along with the void on the reverse and the general roughness of the surface make me think it is a cast counterfeit. You might see evidence on the edge where there could be evidence of the seam between the two halves of the mold.

RichieURich

The date position of the "1" is different than on the genuine coin shown. Also the shape of the "8" is different and the slant of the "5" is different.

kevinstang

I think it might be an altered date coin, looks like a "5" under the "2"

georgepatrick

this did come from a multi million dollar collection

Hemispherical

Belonging to whom? Put it in the title of the thread. Just an idea.

mark_dak

@georgepatrick said:
this did come from a multi million dollar collection

Good point, not being a copper guy I wasn't aware until I looked up the date.

georgepatrick

from my fathers estate,not famous

jmlanzaf

Cast? What's the edge look like?

Kkathyl

Did you soak it to see if it’s nose grease

Kkathyl

Here is some good info for that dated coin


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georgepatrick

@jmlanzaf said:
Cast? What's the edge look like?

@jmlanzaf said:
Cast? What's the edge look like?

georgepatrick

i don.t see any casting marks,you mean like a seam from a mold correct?

georgepatrick

see the punch mark between the s and o,

georgepatrick

not sure about the nose grease?

georgepatrick

keep in mind the punch mark is rite behind the date..

georgepatrick

also the coin was in one of the clear flip folders that probably affected the tone.

georgepatrick

just another pic to see if u think its cast.i,m a beginner so i don,t know.

georgepatrick

one more

georgepatrick

i have seen the offset rim on other legit coins

georgepatrick

as far as tone its like chocalte brown my camera makes it look more metalic

georgepatrick

acording to an article i read,the night watchman at the mint secretley made batches of these coins to sell to collectors.

CaptHenway

I don’t like the shape of the 2. Is that punch mark directly behind the 2? Any chance the 2 was embossed?

Hemispherical

@georgepatrick said:

@jmlanzaf said:
Cast? What's the edge look like?

@jmlanzaf said:
Cast? What's the edge look like?

@georgepatrick

Your showing the rim. Here is an example of an edge:

georgepatrick

punch mark is directly behind the two,like debris struck?

georgepatrick

see if this comes out better

georgepatrick

i would agree the obverse looks cast

jmlanzaf

@georgepatrick said:
i would agree the obverse looks cast

So does the reverse. That home could be an air bubble

georgepatrick

heres that article from ngc .thought you might check it out.i know it has nothing to do with my coin,i figured it was off