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Is this a stupid term I just "coined?"
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When the surfaces of a coin are cleaned either mechanically, chemically, or both; very often the coin has a "halo" effect around its relief design and letters because the cleaning either did not reach that area or there is a change of color. Long ago I named this characteristic "outline" a "halo." I had a new thought today and coined the term "hazelo" to describe this characteristic when it is just an easily removed film of anything such as skin oil. I value your opinions very much. Is this just a very stupid term? Does it just add confusion to a long standing term "halo effect?" Please be totally BRUTAL 
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Is this a stupid term I just "coined?"
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To me, the 'halo effect' is a positive term used to describe the luster of an uncirculated coin. Is this not correct?? I would not want that to be co-mingled with any term used to describe a cleaned coin. I think you can come up with a better term, although I don't know what that might be. I will put some thought into it and see, if I come up with anything. Hazelo sounds funny and is too close to Halo effect. JMHO.
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The haze you're describing; I just call it dip residue.
'Residue effect' is the best I can come up with.
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IMO this is not correct. Since early 1973, the term "halo effect" has been taught/used to describe what I posted above. Of course, any "brand-new-Johnny-come-lately-coin-ex-pert" (not you) could come along later and adopt the term. Rather than a correction ("Cud" changed to "Die Break" at the rim) it is a misuse. "Halo Effect" describes the characteristic it is intended to indicate "perfectly." However, this other term popped into my head today. Early start to New Year w/Brandy flavored coffee?
Now, the only way I can imagine the term "halo" being applied to BU coins with original mint luster would be the special cases where the strike and die wear appears to show a glowing "ring" around the coin's surface. I've called that characteristic a "Luster Halo" in the past. I'll look for some images.
Luster of an Uncirculated coin: "Bloom. Cartwheel, etc."
Since "Halo" isn't at all well known or used for this particular occurrence...I'm not sure "Hazelo" is any better or necessary.
(Looks more like a "shadow" effect to me. Halo implies some sort of brilliance, while shadow implies dull. But then I'd just be making up terms too.
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@Insider2 I am definitely thinking of a 'luster Halo', as I know I have heard luster bands described as 'halos' in the past.
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"Shadow Effect" is a good one.
"Shadow" never came to my mind back then. While a "shadow" casts a dark area behind something a "halo" surrounds something. .
To be in line with many numismatic neologisms, it has to be counter-intuitive, not make any sense, require a lot of explanation to define, or be at least partially named after yourself. I believe you've accomplished much of this with "hazelo," and I will agree that it's a pretty stupid term.
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Maybe because I was surrounded by the younger generation awhile back but every time I hear/read “Halo” I think about a video game.
Why not just use the phrase " halo effect" which describes it perfectly.
I just do not like terms like this.
put it right up there with labordoodle and puggle
Improper hazing?
Lance.
"Altered Surface" and "Improper hazing" may be to general.
I do think "Hazelo" is stupid. I just needed a good beat down to start the last year of the decade.
What's wrong with calling a cleaned coin "Cleaned" it explains everything very easily.
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KISS principle.... It's been "cleaned". Sometimes I'll say "harshly cleaned". Works for me.
Too generic. There's curating, improper cleaning, chemical cleaning, physical cleaning, etc.
If I rub my hands through my greasy (formerly black) hair and then touch the surface of a coin enough to get it hazy, I have NOT CLEANED the coin. I have "altered" its surface. Now, it needs to be properly cleaned (conserved) to restore it. See the difference.
Exactly! Unfortunately, the poster thinks it's funny.
I posted that so you could have fun arguing about it. I only mentioned cleaned coins, not altered surfaces.
I knew any answer was the wrong one, just having some fun with you!
Have a happy New year!
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Ditto. What a relief to read; at first I was disappointed.