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how to verify authenticity of the coins?

shark669shark669 Posts: 19
edited December 12, 2019 11:51AM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

Hi all
Got these coins off eBay they look larger then I expected
how to verify authenticity of the coins?!

See pictures relative to a us quarter:
Front
Back

Thank you for your help!

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  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fakes.

    The design is not detailed enough to be real. They are probably that big to be paperweights or tourist souvenirs

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,582 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You are more courageous than I am - new poster, posts links instead of images... :D

  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    You are more courageous than I am - new poster, posts links instead of images... :D

    :D Here are the images if you don’t wanna click

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  • BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 12, 2019 5:47PM

    Oh my. That is sad.

    Do you realize that Queen Victoria wasn't even born until 1819? She acceded to the throne in 1837!

    Her uncle, King William IV, did not become King until 1830!

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Two aana?

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,582 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thx for the photos.

    Yikes! That is a terrible portrait of Queen Vic, aside from other issues.

    Apart from the designs they seem to he well made copies, though, and they almost look struck.

  • BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MasonG said:
    Two aana?

    If you have a bunch of aana, I think I know the plural!

  • shark669shark669 Posts: 19
    edited December 13, 2019 9:33PM

    The seller just replied back:

    Thanks for email dear they are not fake they temple coins.. Which was issued by east india company during there reign to honour Kings and Queens in India.. They gave these coins as honour to them..

    When i asked why is not labeled as token, he replied:

    token is something else token is replica but temple coins are not replica or token... Its different from token and replica.. Temple coins are issued as goodwill gesture to make kings and queen's happy...

    Maybe he is right?

    https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces133273.html

  • BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 13, 2019 11:16PM

    No. They are modern fakes.

    How can they all be dated 1818 when William IV did not become King until 1830?

    The child who would become Queen Victoria in 1837 wasn't even born yet in 1818 - she was born on May 24, 1819.

    These are not legitimate coins of the East India Company, or anywhere else. They are cheapo modern fantasies.

    Fool yourself if you must. Remember what Forrest Gump said.


    The East India Company (British) issued a number of coins over many years. Here is a photo of one of the more common ones:

    This is also a common coin issued under the auspices of the East India Company (small variations exist):

    This is a coin of Queen Victoria, issued in India by the British administration a few years after The East India Company had passed from the rule of India:

  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @shark669 said:
    The seller just replied back:

    Thanks for email dear they are not fake they temple coins.. Which was issued by east india company during there reign to honour Kings and Queens in India.. They gave these coins as honour to them..

    When i asked why is not labeled as token, he replied:

    token is something else token is replica but temple coins are not replica or token... Its different from token and replica.. Temple coins are issued as goodwill gesture to make kings and queen's happy...

    Maybe he is right?

    https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces133273.html

    No compleat fakes. Some people just have a hard time admitting that they are fakes.

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  • IVBIVB Posts: 248 ✭✭✭

    They are not fakes and not temple tokens. They are modern tourist souvenirs.

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