@gorebels said:
Does anyone have a reference as to all the new die varieties now being listed on Greysheet?
Those are in my book which is still being worked on by the publisher.
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Where will print copies for purchase be available when they become available? It's a must have for the library of this Lincoln collector.
I actually found a 1922-D in the early '60s. It was a nice XF found in a roll from the bank. 1922-D is the lowest mintage Lincoln cent by year of all years Lincoln cents were produced, 1909 to present.
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@mr1931S said:
Where will print copies for purchase be available when they become available? It's a must have for the library of this Lincoln collector.
I actually found a 1922-D in the early '60s. It was a nice XF found in a roll from the bank. 1922-D is the lowest mintage Lincoln cent by year of all years Lincoln cents were produced, 1909 to present.
I assume that it will be available wherever Whitman and Greysheet publications are sold, and the usual online sources.
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@mr1931S said:
Where will print copies for purchase be available when they become available? It's a must have for the library of this Lincoln collector.
I actually found a 1922-D in the early '60s. It was a nice XF found in a roll from the bank. 1922-D is the lowest mintage Lincoln cent by year of all years Lincoln cents were produced, 1909 to present.
I assume that it will be available wherever Whitman and Greysheet publications are sold, and the usual online sources.
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@mr1931S said:
I actually found a 1922-D in the early '60s. It was a nice XF found in a roll from the bank. 1922-D is the lowest mintage Lincoln cent by year of all years Lincoln cents were produced, 1909 to present.
The first Lincoln that I found when I started searching circulated coins in 1965 was a 1922 no D die pair 2, although at the time I just recognized it as a no D, at least I hoped. I had it authenticated and graded by ANACS a couple of years ago, came back F15. I sold it and ended up finding a nice XF45, but it was the coin that got me into collecting 60 years ago this summer.
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Read the CW articles. There does not appear to be anything in it that would have made the book had I seen it a year ago.
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Got the pasted up copy of the book late this afternoon. Looks damn good if I do say so myself!
Reviewing photo placements and captions.
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@CaptHenway said:
Got the pasted up copy of the book late this afternoon. Looks damn good if I do say so myself!
Reviewing photo placements and captions.
I look forward to its release, perhaps you will do one of the podcasts that Whitman puts on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/@greysheet-redbook
I saw Fred on it recently and it is a good watch, I'd love to see you on discussing it with the guys.
@CaptHenway said:
Well, it is my understanding that the Mint used to buy die stock rods in different diameters, with the smaller diameter rods being used for smaller diameter dies and the midsize rods being used for midsized dies, etc. Thus the cent and dollar dies would have been prepared from different batches of die steel.
I do have some interesting and possibly relevant data on die life from cents of other years that will be presented in the article.
Tom, Attached is an except concerning die steel from my article on the polishing of restrike half cent dies. The late 1890 to the 1940s, saw incredible experimentation and development in the steel industry. Many of these steels required far different annealing and heat-treating processes than previous steels. It may well be the mint was experimenting. Just a possibility, but there may be some records.
@CaptHenway said:
Got the pasted up copy of the book late this afternoon. Looks damn good if I do say so myself!
Reviewing photo placements and captions.
I look forward to its release, perhaps you will do one of the podcasts that Whitman puts on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/@greysheet-redbook
I saw Fred on it recently and it is a good watch, I'd love to see you on discussing it with the guys.
We will definitely get Tom on a podcast as soon as the book is available! (Assuming he is game.) John
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Cover design for book. Hopefully it will be on the shelves before the end of the year.
Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Author "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," due out late 2025.
PS Congratulations Tom! The 1922-D cents have been among my keenest numismatic interests ever since I first bought Dr. Sol Taylor's Lincoln Cent reference decades ago. Kind regards, George Huber
The cover price will be $34.95 Still hope to see it available before the end of the year.
AND, there will be a special edition with a red leatherette cover at $59.95! Limited run of I believe 250 copies.
Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Author "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," due out late 2025.
Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Author "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," due out late 2025.
I checked with the Publishers. This is not based upon anything they have posted anywhere. Apparently Google scrapes up information here and there and then some AI blunderbuss makes up a best guess answer to the question asked of it. Keep this in mind when googling anything on the Interwebz,
Whitman will be accepting pre-orders "when the boat is on the water." They will notify me and I will notify you all.
TD
Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Author "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," due out late 2025.
the question about the 22d i have always though about questioning how common that phenomenon actually is and we don't know about it due to the presence of same year no mint mark philly coins or was it a unique die transgression that is only known about widely because of the fluke lack of philly production that year.
I checked with the Publishers. This is not based upon anything they have posted anywhere. Apparently Google scrapes up information here and there and then some AI blunderbuss makes up a best guess answer to the question asked of it. Keep this in mind when googling anything on the Interwebz,
Whitman will be accepting pre-orders "when the boat is on the water." They will notify me and I will notify you all.
TD
Thank you, I'll be reading it as 1909-58 Lincolns are my favorite set.
@Crypto said:
the question about the 22d i have always though about questioning how common that phenomenon actually is and we don't know about it due to the presence of same year no mint mark philly coins or was it a unique die transgression that is only known about widely because of the fluke lack of philly production that year.
I discuss that possibility in the book, with the understanding that it might be impossible to tell in most years.
However, I discovered something about the making of the 1922-D Cent dies that may be unique to 1922, that may be the cause of SOME of the missing D's. Read all about it in the book.
Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Author "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," due out late 2025.
Whitman was kind enough to send me a few examples of the book that were shipped to them by the printer via an express company ahead of the bulk shipment. Pre-orders should be accepted any day now. I will mention it when it happens.
Deluxe and Regular Editions.
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@Morgan White said:
I don't collect Lincolns but this looks like a great book just to read.
Thanks. I put six years into writing this. A lot of history, and a lot of new knowledge about the subject.
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Always exciting to get a project over the finish line Tom DeLorey !
I have yet to acquire a 1922D or popularized missing "D" thus a Philly error for my collection. I did lose a fleabay bid a few years back on a simple clip 22D in nice & raw VG that went for crazy money.
I cannot imagine passing on your book when its available for the common folk. Will be fun once I get it to better understand the 1922D universe which up till now I really did not consider. Seemed an overhyped year as a bunch more exist so the hype dreams can be fulfilled as many exist for resale. A simple overly polished die and the world was set ablaze once albums recognized it and so did Red Book so no one collectors' set was complete without adding this severe die polished variety. Or is there more to the story ?
@Batman23 said:
Do we have to order through Whitman or will you be selling the special editions personally?
I assume that Whitman will be selling them. I requested several copies because I come from a large family.
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"Appears to be some sort of damage."
Thanks for the reply. I was never sure if it got details for the "crack" or the scratch marks to remove it or both.
Here's my MS63BN, VF20 No D and F12BN Weak D with TrueView's, I look forward to your publication, the 1922 Lincoln is one of my favorites.
let us know how to purchase. congratulations on an outstanding achievement
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Congrats on the book! I bumped the Heather thread, so might as well bump this one
Does anyone have a reference as to all the new die varieties now being listed on Greysheet?
Is the book out for sale yet?
Those are in my book which is still being worked on by the publisher.
Where will print copies for purchase be available when they become available? It's a must have for the library of this Lincoln collector.
I actually found a 1922-D in the early '60s. It was a nice XF found in a roll from the bank. 1922-D is the lowest mintage Lincoln cent by year of all years Lincoln cents were produced, 1909 to present.
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I assume that it will be available wherever Whitman and Greysheet publications are sold, and the usual online sources.
Any updated timeline?
No
The first Lincoln that I found when I started searching circulated coins in 1965 was a 1922 no D die pair 2, although at the time I just recognized it as a no D, at least I hoped. I had it authenticated and graded by ANACS a couple of years ago, came back F15. I sold it and ended up finding a nice XF45, but it was the coin that got me into collecting 60 years ago this summer.
If you haven't already seen. Looks like an in-depth, multi-page, comprehensive analysis of the 1922 cent, in the 7 July 25 edition of Coin World.
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Acquired this a few months ago.
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.> @robec said:
Nice
Read the CW articles. There does not appear to be anything in it that would have made the book had I seen it a year ago.
Got the pasted up copy of the book late this afternoon. Looks damn good if I do say so myself!
Reviewing photo placements and captions.
I look forward to its release, perhaps you will do one of the podcasts that Whitman puts on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/@greysheet-redbook
I saw Fred on it recently and it is a good watch, I'd love to see you on discussing it with the guys.
I'm a gonna git me one of doze books!
Pete
I've posted this before. Thought it would be a interesting addition to this thread.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Tom, Attached is an except concerning die steel from my article on the polishing of restrike half cent dies. The late 1890 to the 1940s, saw incredible experimentation and development in the steel industry. Many of these steels required far different annealing and heat-treating processes than previous steels. It may well be the mint was experimenting. Just a possibility, but there may be some records.
We will definitely get Tom on a podcast as soon as the book is available! (Assuming he is game.) John
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Cover design for book. Hopefully it will be on the shelves before the end of the year.
Awesome research, great job on this!
Looking very much forward to its availability.
WS
Very cool! Cannot wait to read it.
Me as well!
PS Congratulations Tom! The 1922-D cents have been among my keenest numismatic interests ever since I first bought Dr. Sol Taylor's Lincoln Cent reference decades ago. Kind regards, George Huber
Agreed, I'll pre-order as soon as Whitman has it listed as such. Thanks!
The cover price will be $34.95 Still hope to see it available before the end of the year.
AND, there will be a special edition with a red leatherette cover at $59.95! Limited run of I believe 250 copies.
Google has some information on the ISBN and 10/31 publication date:
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Enigmatic_1922_Lincoln_Cent/SG-C0QEACAAJ?hl=en
Available for pre order on Amazon.
A lot of incorrect information there!
I look forward to reading it too!
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✓ Everyman Mint State Carson City Morgan Dollars (1878 – 1893)
✓ Everyman Mint State Lincoln Cents (1909 – 1958)
✓ Morgan Dollar GSA Hoard (1878 – 1891)
Q D B author. That is a mistake, right?
Jim
Looking forward to your book Tom. Can it be pre bought?
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I checked with the Publishers. This is not based upon anything they have posted anywhere. Apparently Google scrapes up information here and there and then some AI blunderbuss makes up a best guess answer to the question asked of it. Keep this in mind when googling anything on the Interwebz,
Whitman will be accepting pre-orders "when the boat is on the water." They will notify me and I will notify you all.
TD
the question about the 22d i have always though about questioning how common that phenomenon actually is and we don't know about it due to the presence of same year no mint mark philly coins or was it a unique die transgression that is only known about widely because of the fluke lack of philly production that year.
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Thank you, I'll be reading it as 1909-58 Lincolns are my favorite set.
I discuss that possibility in the book, with the understanding that it might be impossible to tell in most years.
However, I discovered something about the making of the 1922-D Cent dies that may be unique to 1922, that may be the cause of SOME of the missing D's. Read all about it in the book.
Whitman was kind enough to send me a few examples of the book that were shipped to them by the printer via an express company ahead of the bulk shipment. Pre-orders should be accepted any day now. I will mention it when it happens.
Deluxe and Regular Editions.
I don't collect Lincolns but this looks like a great book just to read.
Thanks. I put six years into writing this. A lot of history, and a lot of new knowledge about the subject.
Congratulations on getting it into print.
Congratulations Tom! 🥳 🎊 🎈 🎉 👍
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The entire Whitman team is incredibly humbled and proud to be a part of this book. Congratulations Tom!
John
(p.s. I received a production sample today, as well, and it looks amazing.)
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Looks great! Congratulations, Tom!
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Love it !
Always exciting to get a project over the finish line Tom DeLorey !
I have yet to acquire a 1922D or popularized missing "D" thus a Philly error for my collection. I did lose a fleabay bid a few years back on a simple clip 22D in nice & raw VG that went for crazy money.
I cannot imagine passing on your book when its available for the common folk. Will be fun once I get it to better understand the 1922D universe which up till now I really did not consider. Seemed an overhyped year as a bunch more exist so the hype dreams can be fulfilled as many exist for resale. A simple overly polished die and the world was set ablaze once albums recognized it and so did Red Book so no one collectors' set was complete without adding this severe die polished variety. Or is there more to the story ?
Congratulations !
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Do we have to order through Whitman or will you be selling the special editions personally?
I assume that Whitman will be selling them. I requested several copies because I come from a large family.
Congrats @CaptHenway! I've placed a pre-order.
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