Beckett grading....

olb31

It appears that Beckett has moved away from sub grades. I think you can still get them on 8.5's and higher if you pay $20 per card. With this is mind, will the value of 9's and 9.5's with huge subs increase in value? There are some cards that have no 10's and 10 9.5's, so would 9.5's with two 9.5's and 2 10's escalate more rapidly? Already, if you have a 9.5 that's only .5 away from a 10 would have a near PSA 10 value, maybe be higher depending on the card. What's everyone's thought's?

_EagleEyeKid_

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olb31

I would assume several of of TPG have some issues, without going into details. But the truth is that the newer cards are getting graded by Beckett. Probably the last 15 years, Beckett has graded just as many cards (I am speaking of 2005 - 2019 cards). So I understand you're not happy, and maybe others aren't but they rank #2 behind PSA in value and grading.

DBesse27

I own zero Beckett graded cards and don’t anticipate owning any. I do own several SGC and am about to mail them an important card. I would never sub to Beckett.

PatsGuy5000

I have 95% PSA cards, 3% SGC, and 2% BGS. Prefer PSA for a number of reasons, have some vintage SGC, and a few new BGS rookies. May crossover to PSA at some point.

Huskies11

I submit cards for both but always choose PSA when I pick up a card that I want to really hold its value. Even in modern cards BGS 9.5s sell for significantly less than their PSA 10 counterparts, almost shockingly so.

I had always attributed a lot of that to the registry phenomenon and set builders driving more money to PSA slabs. However, a good swath of cards that aren't registry eligible or meaningful in any sets still command a huge premium in a PSA slab compared to BGS. Just take a look at any prizm Patrick Mahomes sale in the past year.

I've never been a big fan of sub-grades. While I think it's a nice feature, I think it offers up too much for collectors to over-analyze and it hurts the value of the slab. Also creates a two-class structure of "True 9.5s" (all 4 subs 9.5 or higher) and "Not True 9.5s" (one 9 sub).

HighGradeLegends

bulk bgs submissions are $7 (dealer price) and you get no sub grades for this price. So people submitting large numbers of cards will see the non sub grade versions

stevegarveyfan

I submit to BGS only when they are the only TPG who will grade an issue that I want to have encapsulated. If PSA grades an issue, I'm sending it to PSA.

garnettstyle

Love BVG cards.

Gemyanks10

BCCG is where it’s at for me lol.

artee

never submitted, but the consensus is that they are not getting away from subgrades. its a cheaper, faster service. bgs collectors love those subgrades and do not speak highly of any card w/o them.

olb31

I really like the subgrades, especially the centering. As a seller/collector/investor, if you have a 1984 Steve Young that grades an 8.5 but has 10 centering, it's worth $50 more. If I were them, I would at least keep that sub grade. Or put designate when the centering is mint or better, something.

The 10's make a big difference, a 1991 Upper deck Favre with all 10's sold for $800, a PSA 10 would sale for $30.