OT but historically relevant.

Coinstartled

Early morning stroll this morning, I dropped into Starbucks to pick up a New York Times. (two activities that are now controversial)

Anyway, the newspaper rack by the door was gone. I asked the Paperista and was told that they quit selling newspapers over a week ago.

Seems that the demise of circulating coinage and a daily newspaper are somehow connected.

Not a coffee drinker...I put the 13 quarters back into my pocket and left.

ctf_error_coins

Both are going electronic.

You now can get all the news you want and spend all the cash you have using that little thing in your pocket.

Baley

Maybe they put the newspaper rack back out after "non coffee buying, pays for the Times with change guy" went away.

Justacommeman

I’ve been getting my coffee from Dunkin Donuts and my news from the “shoe shine guy” for years now

m

JBK

People are losing sight of the simple things in life. When you settled in with a newspaper there were always interesting stories or articles that you would never see (or go looking for) online.

Same with records/CDs. In the old days you'd buy the whole album and often find a favorite song among the ones that did not make it to the radio.

topstuf

But you can't cut letters for ransom notes out of an online news medium.

ctf_error_coins

@JBK said:
People are losing sight of the simple things in life. When you settled in with a newspaper there were always interesting stories or articles that you would never see (or go looking for) online.

Same with records/CDs. In the old days you'd buy the whole album and often find a favorite song among the ones that did not make it to the radio.

I call BS.

I read a story on the internet, which has links (some sponsored content) to some very interesting stories.

As to music, the internet is way better.

Look forward, not backward.

BillDugan1959

I miss the disagree button. A lot.

Coinstartled

@Baley said:
Maybe they put the newspaper rack back out after "non coffee buying, pays for the Times with change guy" went away.

Heh.

She did once mention that one of the quarters was over dipped. > @ErrorsOnCoins said:

@JBK said:
People are losing sight of the simple things in life. When you settled in with a newspaper there were always interesting stories or articles that you would never see (or go looking for) online.

Same with records/CDs. In the old days you'd buy the whole album and often find a favorite song among the ones that did not make it to the radio.

I call BS.

I read a story on the internet, which has links (some sponsored content) to some very interesting stories.

As to music, the internet is way better.

Look forward, not backward.

Not looking backward often gets us in trouble.

johnny9434

@topstuf said:
But you can't cut letters for ransom notes out of an online news medium.

what a bummer, some of us will miss the letters

JBK

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@JBK said:
People are losing sight of the simple things in life. When you settled in with a newspaper there were always interesting stories or articles that you would never see (or go looking for) online.

Same with records/CDs. In the old days you'd buy the whole album and often find a favorite song among the ones that did not make it to the radio.

I call BS.

I read a story on the internet, which has links (some sponsored content) to some very interesting stories.

Huh? Surfing the net and clicking on click-bait sponsored stories does not take the place of pouring over a newspaper front to back. A lot of people don't miss that (or never did it in the first place) but there is certainly something missing from the old days.

As to music, the internet is way better.

This is not really a defense of downloading hit songs vs listening to an entire album straight thru. The fact that you don't know what you are missing says it all.

Look forward, not backward.

I look forward all the time (especially when I am driving ) but that is no reason to ignore or reject the past. "Past is prologue", "Those who forget the last are condemned to repeat it", etc. etc,

3keepSECRETif2rDEAD

...how did you pay for your coffee?

3keepSECRETif2rDEAD

Oh I see, my bad...at least you tried

jmlanzaf

@JBK said:
People are losing sight of the simple things in life. When you settled in with a newspaper there were always interesting stories or articles that you would never see (or go looking for) online.

Same with records/CDs. In the old days you'd buy the whole album and often find a favorite song among the ones that did not make it to the radio.

You can get the full NYTimes digitally.

You can still stream the full record/CD. With Alexa and the Amazon music app, I've discovered all kinds of music and songs I never would have even tried. It's only $4 per month for 10 million plus songs.

ctf_error_coins

@JBK said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@JBK said:

As to music, the internet is way better.

This is not really a defense of downloading hit songs vs listening to an entire album straight thru. The fact that you don't know what you are missing says it all.

I downloaded all my CD's with both sides into Itunes so I can hear every song on that album. I have thousands of rock and roll songs from the 60's, 70's and 80's.

Now if I hear about a group, I can google it and have it.

Also when a group comes out with a video, I can watch it whenever I want for free ...

https://youtu.be/v2AC41dglnM

amwldcoin

What are people going to use to house train their puppies with now???

jmlanzaf

@JBK said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@JBK said:

This is not really a defense of downloading hit songs vs listening to an entire album straight thru. The fact that you don't know what you are missing says it all.

You can listen to the whole album. I do it all the time. "Alexa play The Verdict by Queensryche"

jmlanzaf

@johnny9434 said:

@topstuf said:
But you can't cut letters for ransom notes out of an online news medium.

what a bummer, some of us will miss the letters

Can you do screenshots and then digitally assemble the ransom letters?

jmlanzaf

@Coinstartled said:

@Baley said:
Maybe they put the newspaper rack back out after "non coffee buying, pays for the Times with change guy" went away.

Look forward, not backward.

Not looking backward often gets us in trouble.

But looking backward while going forward will run you into a wall...

Coinstartled

@jmlanzaf said:

@Coinstartled said:

@Baley said:
Maybe they put the newspaper rack back out after "non coffee buying, pays for the Times with change guy" went away.

Look forward, not backward.

Not looking backward often gets us in trouble.

But looking backward while going forward will run you into a wall...

I guess you can get "The Wall" by asking Alexa nicely as well.

Of course Alexa never sleeps and you may get other stuff that you did not anticipate..

jmlanzaf

@Coinstartled said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@Coinstartled said:

@Baley said:
Maybe they put the newspaper rack back out after "non coffee buying, pays for the Times with change guy" went away.

Look forward, not backward.

Not looking backward often gets us in trouble.

But looking backward while going forward will run you into a wall...

I guess you can get "The Wall" by asking Alexa nicely as well.

Of course Alexa never sleeps and you may get other stuff as well.

She has an off switch if you care to use it.

JBK

@jmlanzaf said:

@JBK said:
People are losing sight of the simple things in life. When you settled in with a newspaper there were always interesting stories or articles that you would never see (or go looking for) online.

Same with records/CDs. In the old days you'd buy the whole album and often find a favorite song among the ones that did not make it to the radio.

You can get the full NYTimes digitally.

You can still stream the full record/CD. With Alexa and the Amazon music app, I've discovered all kinds of music and songs I never would have even tried. It's only $4 per month for 10 million plus songs.

I never said "don't use the Internet" - it is an invaluable resource.

And I think your examples only prove my point.

Yes, you can download the NYT - but how many in the younger generations do that? You do it probably because you remember reading the entire paper, But I am willing to bet that most anyone under 30 (40?) has never perused a newspaper - online or otherwise - from front to back.

Same for music. If you are inclined to listen to albums, then of course you can (and should) download it digitally. But how many younger people do that? I am sure some do, but I also believe that many/most just download the songs they know.

jmlanzaf

@JBK said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@JBK said:
People are losing sight of the simple things in life. When you settled in with a newspaper there were always interesting stories or articles that you would never see (or go looking for) online.

Same with records/CDs. In the old days you'd buy the whole album and often find a favorite song among the ones that did not make it to the radio.

You can get the full NYTimes digitally.

You can still stream the full record/CD. With Alexa and the Amazon music app, I've discovered all kinds of music and songs I never would have even tried. It's only $4 per month for 10 million plus songs.

I never said "don't use the Internet" - it is an invaluable resource.

And I think your examples only prove my point.

Yes, you can download the NYT - but how many in the younger generations do that? You do it probably because you remember reading the entire paper, But I am willing to bet that most anyone under 30 (40?) has never perused a newspaper - online or otherwise - from front to back.

Same for music. If you are inclined to listen to albums, then of course you can (and should) download it digitally. But how many younger people do that? I am sure some do, but I also believe that many/most just download the songs they know.

For the paper, I agree.

For music, I'm not really sure. "Downloading songs" [or movies or TV shows] isn't the thing anymore, it's streaming. I'm sure a lot of people put together playlists of individual songs. I'm not sure that people don't play whole albums anymore. Everyone, even post-millenials, have their favorite artists.

ctf_error_coins

@Coinstartled said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@Coinstartled said:

@Baley said:
Maybe they put the newspaper rack back out after "non coffee buying, pays for the Times with change guy" went away.

Look forward, not backward.

Not looking backward often gets us in trouble.

But looking backward while going forward will run you into a wall...

I guess you can get "The Wall" by asking Alexa nicely as well.

Of course Alexa never sleeps and you may get other stuff that you did not anticipate..

Or ask me ....

https://youtu.be/YR5ApYxkU-U

AngryTurtle

Same for music. If you are inclined to listen to albums, then of course you can (and should) download it digitally. But how many younger people do that? I am sure some do, but I also believe that many/most just download the songs they know.

For the paper, I agree.

For music, I'm not really sure. "Downloading songs" [or movies or TV shows] isn't the thing anymore, it's streaming. I'm sure a lot of people put together playlists of individual songs. I'm not sure that people don't play whole albums anymore. Everyone, even post-millenials, have their favorite artists.

Just listened to Frank Zappas "Orchestral Favorites" (all 4 discs) for the first time online over the weekend.

Coinstartled

@jmlanzaf said:

@Coinstartled said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@Coinstartled said:

@Baley said:
Maybe they put the newspaper rack back out after "non coffee buying, pays for the Times with change guy" went away.

Look forward, not backward.

Not looking backward often gets us in trouble.

But looking backward while going forward will run you into a wall...

I guess you can get "The Wall" by asking Alexa nicely as well.

Of course Alexa never sleeps and you may get other stuff as well.

She has an off switch if you care to use it.

Do you?

bidask

New York Times = fake news.

Wall Street Journal much better

jmlanzaf

@Coinstartled said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@Coinstartled said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@Coinstartled said:

@Baley said:

Do you?

Chimp superpowers. No off switch.

Goldminers

Looks to me like 8,455 is more than 8,416.... edited to say 8,417.

coinkat

So much to write... There is a vibrant generation that reads newspapers from print... Like the NY Times, Washington Post or LA Times... I miss Conrad. Not to have that is nothing short of obscene.

NY Times is not fake news... Sorry Bid Ask.

And for years Dunkin Donuts coffee has been underrated.

Coinstartled

@bidask said:
New York Times = fake news.

Wall Street Journal much better

WSJ went down the tubes when they expanded beyond business and began covering wine and cheese parties. Guess they had to to survive.

Agree that NYT often steers way off the rails, but the local paper is embarrassing in many ways, especially at $2.00 for 24 pages.

I'll continue to pick up the NYT every week r two. Always seems to be worth the price.

coinkat

And just to add... The price of a candy bar, a simple bottle of Coke...water or whatever add to future coinage questions. We may see denomination additions... Without gold or silver as content

Goldminers

After putting on headphones and cranking up that AC/DC video, I completely forgot what this post was about.

topstuf

@amwldcoin said:
What are people going to use to house train their puppies with now???

Digital puppies won't pee.

coinkat

NY Times is not off the rails... And to suggest they are seems to contribute to the diminishing ability of the press to investigate and keep what is relevant in the main stream. And once this concept is lost... the consequences will be far more significant than puppies and whether they become house trained.

Coinstartled

@coinkat said:
NY Times is not off the rails... And to suggest they are seems to contribute to the diminishing ability of the press to investigate and keep what is relevant in the main stream. And once this concept is lost... the consequences will be far more significant than puppies and whether they become house trained.

The editors made an admission of such shortly after the 2016 election.

I had a subscription at the time and the far left bias was impossible to ignore.

BJandTundra

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@JBK said:
People are losing sight of the simple things in life. When you settled in with a newspaper there were always interesting stories or articles that you would never see (or go looking for) online.

Same with records/CDs. In the old days you'd buy the whole album and often find a favorite song among the ones that did not make it to the radio.

I call BS.

I read a story on the internet, which has links (some sponsored content) to some very interesting stories.

As to music, the internet is way better.

Look forward, not backward.

So because we don't know our history, we will be doomed to repeat it?

coinkat

An admission of what?

A far left bias...? I call B u l l s h _ T

Read what you want but the investigative component associated with journalism seeks a higher realm beyond what is left or right but is founded upon facts and how matters unfold.

This is exactly why it is difficult to remain an active participant here in view of the mentality that refuses to acknowledge what is happening and chooses to ignore the obvious.

ctf_error_coins

@BJandTundra said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@JBK said:
People are losing sight of the simple things in life. When you settled in with a newspaper there were always interesting stories or articles that you would never see (or go looking for) online.

Same with records/CDs. In the old days you'd buy the whole album and often find a favorite song among the ones that did not make it to the radio.

I call BS.

I read a story on the internet, which has links (some sponsored content) to some very interesting stories.

As to music, the internet is way better.

Look forward, not backward.

So because we don't know our history, we will be doomed to repeat it?

Nothing wrong with knowing history as some things should not be repeated.

Always looking back to the way it was, wanting of the good ole days is so close-minded.

Justacommeman

Ah longing for the good ole days. It’s what old people have been sayin for the past 100 years or so. The gold ole days are over rated

m

Coinstartled

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@BJandTundra said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@JBK said:
People are losing sight of the simple things in life. When you settled in with a newspaper there were always interesting stories or articles that you would never see (or go looking for) online.

Same with records/CDs. In the old days you'd buy the whole album and often find a favorite song among the ones that did not make it to the radio.

I call BS.

I read a story on the internet, which has links (some sponsored content) to some very interesting stories.

As to music, the internet is way better.

Look forward, not backward.

So because we don't know our history, we will be doomed to repeat it?

Nothing wrong with knowing history as some things should not be repeated.

Always looking back to the way it was, wanting of the good ole days is so close-minded.

The printed newspaper is clearly a dinosaur and any of us that still enjoy picking one up realizes that. Don't know if the Starbucks decision was for that store only, regional or chain wide. Clearly though the category was no longer profitable which caught me a bit by surprise as sitting down with a hat beverage, pastry and a newspaper had been a natural for well over a century.

having said that, the paper is a different experience for those of us that have enjoyed reading one for many decades. Sure I can keep up with the latest news on tv or over the net. Picking up a paper though is different. It is relaxing and enjoyable, sort of like your fishing expeditions vs buying a couple pounds of tuna at the Safeway.

Perhaps a mix of the good ole days and modern technology is a good mix.

amwldcoin

Dang! This tread is gonna POOF!

Coinstartled

@Justacommeman said:
Ah longing for the good ole days. It’s what old people have been sayin for the past 100 years or so. The gold ole days are over rated

m

Well I spend about 12 hours online for each half hour reading the paper.

NYT doesn't cover stuff like coinkat suffering a TDS meltdown every few months.

Justacommeman

@Coinstartled said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@BJandTundra said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@JBK said:
People are losing sight of the simple things in life. When you settled in with a newspaper there were always interesting stories or articles that you would never see (or go looking for) online.

Same with records/CDs. In the old days you'd buy the whole album and often find a favorite song among the ones that did not make it to the radio.

I call BS.

I read a story on the internet, which has links (some sponsored content) to some very interesting stories.

As to music, the internet is way better.

Look forward, not backward.

So because we don't know our history, we will be doomed to repeat it?

Nothing wrong with knowing history as some things should not be repeated.

Always looking back to the way it was, wanting of the good ole days is so close-minded.

The printed newspaper is clearly a dinosaur and any of us that still enjoy picking one up realizes that. Don't know if the Starbucks decision was for that store only, regional or chain wide. Clearly though the category was no longer profitable which caught me a bit by surprise as sitting down with a hat beverage, pastry and a newspaper had been a natural for well over a century.

having said that, the paper is a different experience for those of us that have enjoyed reading one for many decades. Sure I can keep up with the latest news on tv or over the net. Picking up a paper though is different. It is relaxing and enjoyable, sort of like your fishing expeditions vs buying a couple pounds of tuna at the Safeway.

Perhaps a mix of the good ole days and modern technology is a good mix.

I haven’t read an ink newspaper in 25 years but I get your gist. Ironically I hate digital books and read print exclusively

m

Justacommeman

As far as Starbucks not carrying the newspaper anymore I honestly think it’s because most people end up taking one and not paying for it.

m

bidask

@coinkat said:
NY Times is not off the rails... And to suggest they are seems to contribute to the diminishing ability of the press to investigate and keep what is relevant in the main stream. And once this concept is lost... the consequences will be far more significant than puppies and whether they become house trained.

@coinkat said:
An admission of what?

A far left bias...? I call B u l l s h _ T

Read what you want but the investigative component associated with journalism seeks a higher realm beyond what is left or right but is founded upon facts and how matters unfold.

This is exactly why it is difficult to remain an active participant here in view of the mentality that refuses to acknowledge what is happening and chooses to ignore the obvious.

I had a subscription to the NYT.

Canceled it . They are anything but objective .

I will say it again ....FAKE NEWS

Justacommeman

@bidask said:

@coinkat said:
NY Times is not off the rails... And to suggest they are seems to contribute to the diminishing ability of the press to investigate and keep what is relevant in the main stream. And once this concept is lost... the consequences will be far more significant than puppies and whether they become house trained.

@coinkat said:
An admission of what?

A far left bias...? I call B u l l s h _ T

Read what you want but the investigative component associated with journalism seeks a higher realm beyond what is left or right but is founded upon facts and how matters unfold.

This is exactly why it is difficult to remain an active participant here in view of the mentality that refuses to acknowledge what is happening and chooses to ignore the obvious.

I had a subscription to the NYT.

Canceled it . They are anything but objective .

I will say it again ....FAKE NEWS

Just because you don’t agree with it doesn’t make it fake. Calling it fake is easy and doesn’t take much thought

m

ctf_error_coins

As for news ....

I like to analyze myself what a person says and not what some talking head tells me what that person said.

I like provable facts and undoctored video.

I do listen to news commentary, but the words of the subject, the facts, and the undoctored video must back up what the commentary says or I call BS.

jmlanzaf

@Justacommeman said:
Ah longing for the good ole days. It’s what old people have been sayin for the past 100 years or so. The gold ole days are over rated

m

Probably 1000 years, maybe 10,000 years.

Nostalgia always favors "the good old days", even though in the good old days most of us would probably all be dead from illnesses that a little penicillin could have cured.

bidask

Seems like the Times recognize the problem within their own organization (as well as others ) and to their credit are trying to to something about it .

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.coindesk.com/new-york-times-confirms-its-using-blockchain-to-combat-fake-news?amp

jmlanzaf

@Coinstartled said:

@Justacommeman said:
Ah longing for the good ole days. It’s what old people have been sayin for the past 100 years or so. The gold ole days are over rated

m

Well I spend about 12 hours online for each half hour reading the paper.

NYT doesn't cover stuff like coinkat suffering a TDS meltdown every few months.

Is there anything in there about Jessup?