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NEWP Thaler Death or Princess Christina

JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 16, 2019 12:58PM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

These tend to find me. To be honest I didn’t even know this existed. It was love at first sight

Knynh -6628 Ostfriesland. “Minted “ 1723

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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......

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  • Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's been a while since I took Latin, thankfully Google provides "the image of a better life."

    Of your skulls, this one is the most depressing with the wheat growing through the skull.

    Looks like a nice thick patina.

    My current "Box of 20"

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,540 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Were pieces like this intended for use as money or were they actually intended as medals?

    The skull obverse is striking.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 16, 2019 5:04PM

    @291fifth said:
    Were pieces like this intended for use as money or were they actually intended as medals?

    The skull obverse is striking.

    Here is a glossy general overview of all things Thaler

    The first were minted in Duchy of Brunswick-Luneburg, and indeed the majority were struck there. Some of these coins reached colossal size, as much as sixteen normal thalers. The original reason for minting these colossal coins, some of which exceeded a full pound (over 450 g) of silver and being over 12 cm (5 in) in diameter, is uncertain. The name "löser" most likely was derived from a large gold coin minted in Hamburg called the Portugalöser, worth 10 ducats. Some of the silver löser reached this value, but not all. Eventually the term was applied to numerous similar coins worth more than a single thaler. These coins are very rare, the larger ones often costing tens of thousands of dollars, and are highly sought after by serious collectors of thalers. Few circulated in any real sense so they often remain in well-preserved condition.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaler

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  • WildIdeaWildIdea Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations on the newp! Fits your collection perfectly and adds yet another new layer to its depth. Not only do I like the imagery, but the darkness of the toning is attractive and suits the mood of the piece perfect.

    So cool....

  • EVillageProwlerEVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A löser, I am told, was a coin whose primary functional purpose was to act as a bullion reserve during exigencies like war. The issuing authority, usually a Prince, Archduke or King, would mete them out to loyal upper crust society members — reclaiming them when emergency wealth was needed.

    @Justacommeman — nice newp; very cool looking!

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  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Impressive

    Best place to buy !
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  • worldcoinguyworldcoinguy Posts: 3,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great addition. Love the design. If I recall the lot, it was 1/5 taler denomination wasn't it?

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @worldcoinguy said:
    Great addition. Love the design. If I recall the lot, it was 1/5 taler denomination wasn't it?

    mark

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    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • StellaStella Posts: 710 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Quite the design! I had never seen one of these before, but it is fascinating.

    Coin collector since childhood and New York Numismatist at Heritage Auctions.
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  • sarikanairsarikanair Posts: 154 ✭✭✭

    That’s a beautiful thaler, the strike is clean and the scull design is impressive! Thanks for sharing...

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 27, 2019 8:10AM

    Thanks all! Updated with pic I just got back

    GERMANY. Ostfriesland. Medallic 1/5 Death Taler, 1723. Georg Albrecht. PCGS AU-55 Gold Shield.
    Knyph-6628. By Johan Christian Koch. Obverse: VITAE MELIORIS IMAGO., skull and scattered bones with plants growing from eye sockets. Reverse: Latin epitaph. Struck upon the death of Christiana Ludwiga von Nassau-Weilburg, the wife of Georg Albrecht. RARE and one of the most dramatic and emotionally potent issues that we've seen. Deep interwoven toning only contributes to the desired mood of the coin, which reveals faint signs of handling on the high points after close inspection. Truly an impactful piece that would greatly increase the interest factor of any collection

    Description borrowed from
    Stack's Bowers Galleries (& Ponterio)

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  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,662 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very cool design. Congrats.

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,163 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Either you meant to title this thread "Death or [sic] Princess Christina" or you made the same mistake PCGS did on their label. Cool piece!

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