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Hate to say the D word, but - THIS IS A DOUBLED DIE COIN (with a larger spread than many)!

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are a few still living. But I think the general awareness was due to publications such as CONE and NECA, which of course merged to become CONECA and other literature such as Georgia Gems (Joja Jems.) Several who are no longer with us, such as Del Romines and JT Stanton did a lot, too.

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Breen's "Complete Encyclopedia" in 1986(?) and the "Cherrypicker's Guide" really got the ball rolling in the 80s and 90s, along with some more specialized books on doubled dies and such.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,615 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Before the internet , those were hard to find. It is one I've long searched for through chump change, and never found.

    Now I can just go buy a dozen.

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,861 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What are the chances there is another undiscovered DD. Most people are checking the known years I wonder how many people are checking the unknown years? Especially a rare one with only a handful in non-existence :)

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinscratchFever said:
    What are the chances there is another undiscovered DD. Most people are checking the known years I wonder how many people are checking the unknown years? Especially a rare one with only a handful in non-existence :)

    The 1919 DDO-001 dime was discovered just a few years ago, and that's a BIG one. I've discovered/reported a couple of decent ones, too, so it can happen.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,615 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can only "like" or "agree" , but I like and agree with both the above statements, following mine.

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,861 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wish you could like that someone liked your statement, then you could like their like for liking your like, and so on and on and on and on.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinscratchFever said:
    I wish you could like that someone liked your statement, then you could like their like for liking your like, and so on and on and on and on.

    I'd like that.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,857 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a question about the thread title where it says "larger spread than many". Wouldn't all examples of this coin have the same spread or were there more than one DDR die used for this date?

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    I have a question about the thread title where it says "larger spread than many". Wouldn't all examples of this coin have the same spread or were there more than one DDR die used for this date?

    He meant it had a larger spread than most DDs of other coins.

  • ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @asheland said:

    Man, I had to change my pants...

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,861 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @PerryHall said:
    I have a question about the thread title where it says "larger spread than many". Wouldn't all examples of this coin have the same spread or were there more than one DDR die used for this date?

    He meant it had a larger spread than most DDs of other coins.

    There needs to be an "OH" button.

  • thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    DD coins have a lot more panache than the typical "errors", definitely a neat desirable coin.

    Not an error.

    thefinn
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,857 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thefinn said:

    @logger7 said:
    DD coins have a lot more panache than the typical "errors", definitely a neat desirable coin.

    Not an error.

    Of course it's an error unless you think the US Mint intentionally wanted to make it with this doubling. Since this error is on this blundered die and all coins struck from this die shows this doubling, the coins struck from this die are also considered to be a variety.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @thefinn said:

    @logger7 said:
    DD coins have a lot more panache than the typical "errors", definitely a neat desirable coin.

    Not an error.

    Of course it's an error unless you think the US Mint intentionally wanted to make it with this doubling. Since this error is on this blundered die and all coins struck from this die shows this doubling, the coins struck from this die are also considered to be a variety.

    Unless there was a problem with the blank, metal composite (wrong planchet, alloy issue, etc.), strike (partial collar, no collar, off-center, etc.), it's not an error. Any issue with die doubling, over polishing, RPM, RPD, clashed dies, etc. does not an error make. Just because a coin isn't perfect doesn't mean it's an error.
    Study coin manufacturing, or work at a mint and you will know what an ERROR is.

    thefinn
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,857 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 25, 2019 4:00AM

    @thefinn said:

    @PerryHall said:

    @thefinn said:

    @logger7 said:
    DD coins have a lot more panache than the typical "errors", definitely a neat desirable coin.

    Not an error.

    Of course it's an error unless you think the US Mint intentionally wanted to make it with this doubling. Since this error is on this blundered die and all coins struck from this die shows this doubling, the coins struck from this die are also considered to be a variety.

    Unless there was a problem with the blank, metal composite (wrong planchet, alloy issue, etc.), strike (partial collar, no collar, off-center, etc.), it's not an error. Any issue with die doubling, over polishing, RPM, RPD, clashed dies, etc. does not an error make. Just because a coin isn't perfect doesn't mean it's an error.
    Study coin manufacturing, or work at a mint and you will know what an ERROR is.

    I'm quite familiar with the minting process. I consider a coin struck by a blundered die to be a mint error. We'll have to agree to disagree on this matter. Also, the PCGS web site has a glossary of terms which they call "PCGS Lingo". Look up their definition of "error". PCGS specifically says that doubled die coins are errors.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I thought the 1916 DDO was the king of DD nickels.

    It is.

    Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thefinn said:

    @PerryHall said:

    @thefinn said:

    @logger7 said:
    DD coins have a lot more panache than the typical "errors", definitely a neat desirable coin.

    Not an error.

    Of course it's an error unless you think the US Mint intentionally wanted to make it with this doubling. Since this error is on this blundered die and all coins struck from this die shows this doubling, the coins struck from this die are also considered to be a variety.

    Unless there was a problem with the blank, metal composite (wrong planchet, alloy issue, etc.), strike (partial collar, no collar, off-center, etc.), it's not an error. Any issue with die doubling, over polishing, RPM, RPD, clashed dies, etc. does not an error make. Just because a coin isn't perfect doesn't mean it's an error.
    Study coin manufacturing, or work at a mint and you will know what an ERROR is.

    Why complicate things? Many varieties can be called "errors" in the sense of the word. Someone screwed up at the mint in error! :)

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