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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,581 ✭✭✭✭✭

    wow... interesting thread. My initial impression was buy. But after reading the responses, I'm not so sure...

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is impossible to authenticate a coin as this with the images provided. There are characteristics of both genuine and C/F coins in the image. It will be interesting when we find out the answer.

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    It is impossible to authenticate a coin as this with the images provided. There are characteristics of both genuine and C/F coins in the image. It will be interesting when we find out the answer.

    He confirmed with me it came back fake from PCGS. I don't want to say I can 100% judge based on the pics, but I knew it had the fake look to me from the beginning.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten said:

    @Insider2 said:
    It is impossible to authenticate a coin as this with the images provided. There are characteristics of both genuine and C/F coins in the image. It will be interesting when we find out the answer.

    He confirmed with me it came back fake from PCGS. I don't want to say I can 100% judge based on the pics, but I knew it had the fake look to me from the beginning.

    That was quick

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @jwitten said:

    @Insider2 said:
    It is impossible to authenticate a coin as this with the images provided. There are characteristics of both genuine and C/F coins in the image. It will be interesting when we find out the answer.

    He confirmed with me it came back fake from PCGS. I don't want to say I can 100% judge based on the pics, but I knew it had the fake look to me from the beginning.

    That was quick

    Apparently he sent it in awhile back, and just now decided to post the challenge

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Challenges as this are very good to post and also educational. The best responses give the reason for their opinion. So far, I have not seen a counterfeit 14-D $2 1/2 with the crease through the mintmark. If the coin is a fake, this will be a first for me.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    Challenges as this are very good to post and also educational. The best responses give the reason for their opinion. So far, I have not seen a counterfeit 14-D $2 1/2 with the crease through the mintmark. If the coin is a fake, this will be a first for me.

    I'm guessing this coin was struck with a set of transfer dies made from a genuine coin having the die crack or crease on the reverse. Even contact marks on a genuine coin can be transferred to a set of false dies and to the counterfeits made from them.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    Challenges as this are very good to post and also educational. The best responses give the reason for their opinion. So far, I have not seen a counterfeit 14-D $2 1/2 with the crease through the mintmark. If the coin is a fake, this will be a first for me.

    Agree.

    This has been 50% of an educational thread. Lol

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I respect the PCGS opinion if they examined the coin.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,765 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Sigma can be fooled if the plating is thick enough. I saw this first hand when one of those large rounds passed the Sigma, but my friend's XRF gun read deeper revealing a copper core.

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Insider2 said:
    Challenges as this are very good to post and also educational. The best responses give the reason for their opinion. So far, I have not seen a counterfeit 14-D $2 1/2 with the crease through the mintmark. If the coin is a fake, this will be a first for me.

    Agree.

    This has been 50% of an educational thread. Lol

    It simply looks .. off.

    As if it's missing a tiny DC monogram.

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  • ElmhurstElmhurst Posts: 795 ✭✭✭

    The mintmark looks like its falling of the coin, never seen one lake that before. I'd say fake too.

  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The mintmark looks like its falling of the coin, never seen one lake that before. I'd say fake too.

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 16, 2019 2:37PM

    Yep, the details look too sharp..

    As if they used a real coin and a computer to make a set of dies, and then enhanced the feathers

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  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Elmhurst said:
    The mintmark looks like its falling of the coin, never seen one lake that before. I'd say fake too.

    The mintmark and crease running through it are the only parts of it I actually thought looked legit, lol

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