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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,200 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’d like to personally thank PRCC for the opportunity to add one beautiful early eagle to my set!

  • @tradedollarnut said:
    I’d like to personally thank PRCC for the opportunity to add one beautiful early eagle to my set!

    you are very welcome, tradedollarnut ! I know this coin since 2000 and always loved it.

  • NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome coins, the most interesting to me is the 1806/5 O-104/T-1 prooflike half dollar. The obverse die was used on two die marriages in 1805 and the reverse die was used on four previous DM's. Scot heavily lapped the dies, so much that it removed some arrow shafts and details, but all that polishing enabled a prooflike strike. Great image allows these details to be seen.

    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
  • savitalesavitale Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Amazing set! Obviously it takes a lot of money to put together a set like that, but it takes more than just money to complete an entire type set without compromising here and there due to impatience. It is a notable accomplishment.

    Would you comment on why you chose to sell through a dealer rather than go through auction? Many folks would love to see an auction catalog with their name on it as a historical record of their #1 set.

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,416 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Questions for Oliver: How long did it take to build this collection? Any thoughts on what you might collect next, whenever?

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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  • KindaNewishKindaNewish Posts: 827 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tradedollarnut said:
    I’d like to personally thank PRCC for the opportunity to add one beautiful early eagle to my set!

    now that's too cool.
    Good job, gents!

  • @Nysoto said:
    Awesome coins, the most interesting to me is the 1806/5 O-104/T-1 prooflike half dollar. The obverse die was used on two die marriages in 1805 and the reverse die was used on four previous DM's. Scot heavily lapped the dies, so much that it removed some arrow shafts and details, but all that polishing enabled a prooflike strike. Great image allows these details to be seen.

    Its an amazing coin, I called Joe today to tell him to actually keep it, but it already sold.

  • privaterarecoincollectorprivaterarecoincollector Posts: 629 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 6, 2019 3:50PM

    @savitale said:
    Amazing set! Obviously it takes a lot of money to put together a set like that, but it takes more than just money to complete an entire type set without compromising here and there due to impatience. It is a notable accomplishment.

    Would you comment on why you chose to sell through a dealer rather than go through auction? Many folks would love to see an auction catalog with their name on it as a historical record of their #1 set.

    sure, I dont know yet which coins I will keep, its a moving subject really. So this way I have all the flexibility.

  • @MrEureka said:
    Questions for Oliver: How long did it take to build this collection? Any thoughts on what you might collect next, whenever?

    I started really in 1998 collecting type coins. I know I sold a few times coins in between, but it was all needed to make me achieve the big goal at the end, so I would say it was 20 years.

    At the moment we are buying lots of Chagall paintings + we want to start a new US coin collection in a few years. Will discuss with my son then.

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,600 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for sharing news about the sale and your collection journey. Great to read.

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  • GazesGazes Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @privaterarecoincollector said:

    @MrEureka said:
    Questions for Oliver: How long did it take to build this collection? Any thoughts on what you might collect next, whenever?

    I started really in 1998 collecting type coins. I know I sold a few times coins in between, but it was all needed to make me achieve the big goal at the end, so I would say it was 20 years.

    At the moment we are buying lots of Chagall paintings + we want to start a new US coin collection in a few years. Will discuss with my son then.

    curious your thoughts about collecting in the art market vs. numismatics?

  • kazkaz Posts: 9,272 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Anybody who appreciates Chagall, let alone collects him, is OK in my book!
    I've always enjoyed visiting the museum in Nice, and when staying with the in laws in the south we have often walked to the cemetery in St Paul to see his grave.

  • privaterarecoincollectorprivaterarecoincollector Posts: 629 ✭✭✭✭✭

    curious your thoughts about collecting in the art market vs. numismatics?

    The big advantage of art really is that its much bigger than coins and you put it on your wall and see it everyday !

  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations on your set, of course and for participating here.

    I can't imagine decisions like this are easy or taken lightly.
    As soon as I read that you were focusing on family...end of story.

    Best of luck and don't be a stranger.

    "If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"

    My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 6, 2019 4:34PM

    Chagall was an incredible artist. The stained glass windows at Hadassah Hospital in Jerusalem are amazing.

  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 6, 2019 5:46PM

    @savitale said:
    Amazing set! Obviously it takes a lot of money to put together a set like that, but it takes more than just money to complete an entire type set without compromising here and there due to impatience. It is a notable accomplishment.

    Would you comment on why you chose to sell through a dealer rather than go through auction? Many folks would love to see an auction catalog with their name on it as a historical record of their #1 set.

    Good point, but with a seller holding onto the best of the set, the catalogue would be incomplete anyway. On a somewhat related point, with Pogue's passing maybe we will now see some of those retained coins being made available to the public?

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,587 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Marvelous set of coins.

  • NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @savitale said:

    Many folks would love to see an auction catalog with their name on it as a historical record of their #1 set.

    American Numismatic Rarities published a wonderful auction catalog in 2004 of The Oliver Jung Collection.

    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,422 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @skier07 said:
    Chagall was an incredible artist. The stained glass windows at Hadassah Hospital in Jerusalem are amazing.

    Ditto St. Stephens church in Mainz.

  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 8, 2019 1:41AM

    @privaterarecoincollector said:
    Retiring "The Type Set"

    As of today, Lish my wife and I are retiring "The Type Set", recognized as the finest complete type set of U.S. circulating coins ever assembled.

    We will be keeping our favourites - generally early gold and silver coins, and some of the early copper. The rest of the set will be sold privately by Joe O'Connor. If you want you can write to Joe at joe @ ocnumis.com for a list of which coins are currently available, or see him at his ANA table #928.

    While Lish and I are taking some time to focus on our family and our business interests, we will always be collectors.

    So dont be surprised if we show up in future at one of the coin auctions !

    Oliver Jung

    Appreciate that no one has suggested that this thread be moved to the Buy/Sell forum or poofed as was that of another forum member who posted that he had a numismatic book coming out. In both instances valuable information of interest to many of us was shared, and without the postings many would not have learned about same.

  • GoBustGoBust Posts: 605 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Really was the best type set ever formed IMHO. Your eye for quality and eye appeal led to a truely superb collection in every way. Congratulations on the accomplishment. The 1795 Eagle was my favorite coin in viewing all the Pogue auctions in hand. I'm glad that you are keeping her.

  • @GoBust said:
    Really was the best type set ever formed IMHO. Your eye for quality and eye appeal led to a truely superb collection in every way. Congratulations on the accomplishment. The 1795 Eagle was my favorite coin in viewing all the Pogue auctions in hand. I'm glad that you are keeping her.

    keeping a few others as well too :)

  • TomthecoinguyTomthecoinguy Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭

    It seems a number of your coins came from the Progue auction, about how many of your type set coins did you get from the Pogue auction? That must have been an exciting series of auction for you!

  • privaterarecoincollectorprivaterarecoincollector Posts: 629 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tomthecoinguy said:
    It seems a number of your coins came from the Progue auction, about how many of your type set coins did you get from the Pogue auction? That must have been an exciting series of auction for you!

    yes I was waiting for Pogue auctions to come for many years.

  • WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Nysoto said:
    @savitale said:

    Many folks would love to see an auction catalog with their name on it as a historical record of their #1 set.

    American Numismatic Rarities published a wonderful auction catalog in 2004 of The Oliver Jung Collection.

    A great catalog. Here is a link to it:

    https://archive.org/details/oliverjungcollec2004amer_a8o1

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    A question for @privaterarecoincollector:

    Did you already have the current type set going with those in the 2004 auction being duplicates or did you start over after that sale?

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  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great auction -- I have gone through that catalog many times. I owned the 1854 with arrows half for awhile. An absolute beauty.

    "Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @privaterarecoincollector I was at a show just before your ANR sale and a dealer had your auction catalog on his table while with another customer. Waiting my turn to see something in his case I overheard their conversation. Collector asks "Who is Oliver Jung?" Dealer says "a Asian collector selling some very nice coins". Knowing Jung meant Young in German I just bit my lip :D

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