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Have you got any "Oddball" grading company cards to share or a company you don't usually buy from?

Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

Hi everyone

Am reorganizing my graded cards and came across a bunch that have been given to me over the years from a member who used to post here.

Some I just picked up myself out of curiosity.

E.g. the Gem graded Griffey. I was hoping it would be a fake but only trimmed - paid 8 bucks for the card - and it's a good example of what the edge of a "trimmed" card looks like.

The Arrowhead Holder from ASA was given to me at the '92 National by Alan Hager and the PSA sample holder was given to me by Mike Baker who used to work for PSA many years ago.

The SCD Authentic was sent to subscribers when they were attempting to jump into the world of TPGs.

I always got a kick out of the BCCG - has a 9 but says "Near Mint or Better"

I have very few GAI holders - the Gwynn was picked up a the Houston TriStar for 5 bucks.

The PGC and IKON grading service - from a friend - maybe I was supposed to pass them on to someone else?

The SGC was purchased - of all places - Coach's Corner for 67 bucks.

So, please post other incredible holders for the archives.



Mike

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  • stevegarveyfanstevegarveyfan Posts: 579 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A long time ago I made the mistake of buying a few items graded by PRO, PCG, TFA, and USA, among others. Of the four I mentioned, I feel like USA was the closest to being legit.

  • mccardguy1mccardguy1 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭

    SCD was a good grading company in it's very short life. If there was a card I wanted at a decent price I would have no issues with buying from them.

    I love SGC and have used them in the past but the others you posted, I would probably not waste my money.

    I am on a budget and I am not afraid to use it!!
  • countdouglascountdouglas Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have somewhere in the neighborhood of 2700 PSA graded cards, and perhaps less than 50 total in holders from the other TPGs. Here is one example of each of the oddballs.

    There was a period of time when I was heavy into 1975s, and over the course of buying various lots and partial/complete sets, I ended up with quite a few random SGC and BVG graded cards from that year. Here are just 2 examples of those.

    Also, I have a handful of BCCG that have made their way to me, usually being included as part of other purchases. This is my highest graded one from them. Most of my others are in 9 holders, but as noted, that's only regarded as Near Mint or Better.

    The 2 Carews came as part of a larger purchase of graded Carews. I was working on some vintage raw sets, and the 68, 70, and 75 were in oddball holders also, but they all looked pretty good for the price (especially when compared to raw Greg Morris offerings of the same cards), so I bought the whole lot and cracked out the ones I needed for my sets. I don't recall now which oddball grading companies those were. They could have been the same as these, or some other unique TPG. The holder for the 81 was cracked in transit, but I already have a whole handful of raw Carews that are better than that card, so just set this one aside and forgot about it until this thread.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Has anyone heard if KSA? Aren't they supposed to be canada's version of PSA?

  • NGS428NGS428 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just a few of these... :smile:

  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 27, 2019 3:52PM

    Thanx for the input guys.

    Just found this company while searching for Quaker Babe Ruth items.

    AAA Grading Co

    If anyone was curious to what they're calling a "card?"

    It's one of the pages of the Flip card premium from Quaker:

    I think it's cool that they even gave it a "card #"

    Mike
  • ahopkinsahopkins Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't have a pic of it anymore, but many many years ago (I want to say 10ish) I bought a 1950 Bowman Jackie Robinson in a PRO case. Bad move. Trimmed. Learned my lesson.

    Andy

  • CdnOsfanCdnOsfan Posts: 279 ✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:
    Has anyone heard if KSA? Aren't they supposed to be canada's version of PSA?

    Not a very good version of PSA, but yes, they are up here in Canada...

  • got this Henderson for $4 delivered. Broke it out and looks tight. Going to submit to psa.

  • DBesse27DBesse27 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 27, 2019 4:26PM

    I think I own 2 or 3 SGC cards. I don’t think I own any BVG/BGS. This is the only other non-PSA slab I own. When I was working on this set, my ex wife didn’t know any better.

    Yaz Master Set
    #1 Gino Cappelletti master set
    #1 John Hannah master set

    Also collecting Andre Tippett, Patriots Greats' RCs, Dwight Evans, 1964 Venezuelan Topps, 1974 Topps Red Sox

  • countdouglascountdouglas Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Instanttang77 said:
    got this Henderson for $4 delivered. Broke it out and looks tight. Going to submit to psa.

    I haven't priced an 82 Henderson in awhile, but I got both of my PSA 9s several years ago for under $10 each. Unless you think it's a no doubter to cross over to a 10, you'd probably be better off saving your money and buying a 9 already graded.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,238 ✭✭✭✭✭

    about 15 or so years ago I received a 1973 topps mini Mike Schmidt rookie in a PRO mint 9 holder. It didnt hang around too long.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • RyansRustRyansRust Posts: 179 ✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2019 10:14AM

    Always thought it would be a neat collection to have one of each.

    Many are out of business

    AAA
    AAI ( American Authentication Inc)
    ADVANCEDGRADING.COM
    AGS (Advanced Grading Specialists)
    ALL STAR GRADING
    ASA (Accugrade Sportscard Authentication)
    ASGC (All Star Grading Company)
    BCCG (Beckett Collectors Club Grading)
    BCG
    BEARSTATS GRADING SERVICES
    BGS (Beckett Grading Service)
    BGUM (Beckett Game Used Memoabilia)
    Blue Chip
    BRG (Best Rate Grading)
    BSVA
    BVG (Beckett Vintage Grading
    Capital Grading
    CCS (Card Collector Services)
    CEX (Certified Express)
    CGA (Card Grading Authenticators)
    CGS (Champs Grading Service)
    CLG
    Compugrade
    CPG (Certified Pro Grading)
    CSA (Certified Sports Authentication)
    CSC (Sports Card Grading Service)
    CSG
    CTA
    DCS (Dallas Card Show)
    EGS (Express Grading Service)
    FGA
    FGS (Finest Grading Service)
    GAI (Global Authentication Inc.) (Bankrupt)
    GAI (Global Authority Inc) (new owners of GAI)
    GEM
    GEM Elite
    GEM-Sports
    GGI (Gem Grading Inc.)
    GGS (Gem Grading Services)
    GMA
    GRA (Graded Rookies Authenticated)
    GRADEMYCARDS.COM
    GRADING UNLIMITED
    IGX
    IKON
    ISA
    KSA (Kressler Sports Authentication)
    MAJOR LEAGUE GRADING
    MAP (Screw Down Holder)
    MGS (Masters Grading Services)
    MGS (Mint Grading Service)
    NSA (National Sportscard Authenticators) Self made unlicensed cards with "GU" pieces that many feel are fake. They had $1500 reward if proven fake in slab, when in business.
    NASA (North American Sportscard Authentication)
    PCCG (Pro's Choice Card Graders)
    PCG (Professional Card Graders)
    PGA (Professional Grading Authority)
    PGC (Premier Grading Certification)
    PGC (Premier Grading Company -same as above?)
    PGC (Pro Grade Certified)
    PGI
    PGS (Professional Grading Service)
    PRE-Grading Service (uses screwdowns)
    Premium Sports Grading
    PRO (Pro Sports Grading)
    PSA (Professional Sports Authenticator)
    PSA (Pacific Sports Authority)
    PSG (Pristine Sportscard Grading)
    PTG
    RGA
    SBC (Superlative Baseball Card Certification)
    SCD Sports Collectors Digest (SCD) folded and was sold to Sports Card Direct (SCD)
    SGC (Sportscard Guaranty)
    SNAGGLETOOTH
    SPA (Authenticated)
    Sportscard Grading Association
    STADIUM CLUB GRADING
    SWG (Southwest Card Grading)
    TCG
    TFA (The Final Authority)
    TGA
    UGS
    USA (Ultimate Sportscard Authority)
    Verisleeve (Sticker on Card Saver)
    VGR (Venture 21)
    VGS
    VSA
    VSG Vanguard
    WCG (World Class Grading)

    MISC. --

    MINT/ROOKIE/BLANK (Looks like PSA flip and a Mini Pre -Tech 'self slab' with locking tabs) Supposed to become Atlas Grading Inc. with a website in 2010

  • RyansRustRyansRust Posts: 179 ✭✭✭

    Mike, I don't have a Arrowhead in my list. You mention Arrowhead as ASA and I show ASA as (Accugrade Sportscard Authentication). Is Arrowhead the same or a different company? Thanks, Donovan

  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RyansRust said:
    Mike, I don't have a Arrowhead in my list. You mention Arrowhead as ASA and I show ASA as (Accugrade Sportscard Authentication). Is Arrowhead the same or a different company? Thanks, Donovan

    Hiya Donovan

    Correct on the ASA grading company.

    Alan Hager was the inventor/patent holder for the holder - he also copyrighted the 10 point grading system at one point - I believe - and PSA used these attributes.

    Mike
  • krisd3279krisd3279 Posts: 808 ✭✭✭✭

    @DBesse27 said:

    I think I own 2 or 3 SGC cards. I don’t think I own any BVG/BGS. This is the only other non-PSA slab I own. When I was working on this set, my ex wife didn’t know any better.

    Ha ha. I hope you are getting a new one trained up on our standards here. :smile:

    Kris

    My 1971 Topps adventure - Davis Men in Black

  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭

    Bought this card raw, for $10, at a card show in 92. Many moons later, I sent it to SGC because I liked the look of their slabs. It's one of my favorite pieces in my collection featuring an early example of Mr Smith's autograph.

  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Stole this one from Bryan - Eagle Eye

    Mike
  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's on from NASA in a riveted holder ...

  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 28, 2019 12:08PM

    Kyle, what's behind two of the corners? It almost appears to be toilet paper or tissue 😲

  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lawnmowerman said:
    Kyle, what's behind two of the corners? It almost appears to be toilet paper or tissue 😲

    Some sort of tabs to hold the corners in place, I believe. I'll be bashing it open in the near future to determine for sure.

  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 28, 2019 12:53PM

    I don't get the point of BCCG grading. Why not just get the "real" BGS or BVG grading from Beckett and be done with it?

    I remember in BGS' early days they were MUCH tougher on their grading than PSA...is that still true now?

    And remember how I mentioned several years ago how if we call a card's condition "grading" or "graded", it would make sense to do school letter grades instead of the same ol' 1-10 everyone does? It would work thusly:

    A+ Pristine
    A Gem Mint
    A- Mint
    B+ Near Mint-Mint
    B Near Mint
    B- Excellent Mint
    C+ Excellent
    C Very Good-Excellent
    C - Very Good
    D+ Good
    D Fair
    D- Poor
    F -- Card itself is authentic, but has been "compromised" in someway (trimmed, recolored borders, etc)...maybe PSA could offer to slab a card like this (with the label boldy saying trimmed or whatever) for the sake of authenticity conformation and grade it a "PSA 0".

    WISHLIST
    D's: 54S,53P,50P,49S,45D+S,44S,43D,41S,40D+S,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
    Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
    74T: 37,38,47,151,193,241,435,570,610,654,655 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
    73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
    95 Ultra GM Sets: Golden Prospects,HR Kings,On-Base Leaders,Power Plus,RBI Kings,Rising Stars
  • _EagleEyeKid__EagleEyeKid_ Posts: 273 ✭✭✭

    Does anyone have a VSG (Vanguard) holder? I miss seeing that one.

  • _EagleEyeKid__EagleEyeKid_ Posts: 273 ✭✭✭

    My favorite from the list above is CTA. Loved their holders and gold and silver labels for 9s and 10s. There was an inner sleeve as well so the card didn't move. I thought they did a good job.

  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Estil said:
    I don't get the point of BCCG grading. Why not just get the "real" BGS or BVG grading from Beckett and be done with it?

    I remember in BGS' early days they were MUCH tougher on their grading than PSA...is that still true now?

    And remember how I mentioned several years ago how if we call a card's condition "grading" or "graded", it would make sense to do school letter grades instead of the same ol' 1-10 everyone does? It would work thusly:

    One of the college kid/basement operations tried to use a 4.0 scale, similar concept.

  • hyperchipper09hyperchipper09 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Only have a couple SGC and one KSA



  • DBesse27DBesse27 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @krisd3279 said:

    @DBesse27 said:

    I think I own 2 or 3 SGC cards. I don’t think I own any BVG/BGS. This is the only other non-PSA slab I own. When I was working on this set, my ex wife didn’t know any better.

    Ha ha. I hope you are getting a new one trained up on our standards here. :smile:

    Funny you say that! My girlfriend of 7 months is an amazing woman and I’d been thinking I’d found “the one.” But she sealed the deal when she asked to see some of my cards and spent over an hour examining the entire 80 card Ted Williams set and reading every card back.

    Yaz Master Set
    #1 Gino Cappelletti master set
    #1 John Hannah master set

    Also collecting Andre Tippett, Patriots Greats' RCs, Dwight Evans, 1964 Venezuelan Topps, 1974 Topps Red Sox

  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭✭

    @DBesse27 said:

    @krisd3279 said:

    @DBesse27 said:

    I think I own 2 or 3 SGC cards. I don’t think I own any BVG/BGS. This is the only other non-PSA slab I own. When I was working on this set, my ex wife didn’t know any better.

    Ha ha. I hope you are getting a new one trained up on our standards here. :smile:

    Funny you say that! My girlfriend of 7 months is an amazing woman and I’d been thinking I’d found “the one.” But she sealed the deal when she asked to see some of my cards and spent over an hour examining the entire 80 card Ted Williams set and reading every card back.

    https://youtu.be/vBa8cjnfAFA
    https://youtu.be/pUNe-1luyHM

    WISHLIST
    D's: 54S,53P,50P,49S,45D+S,44S,43D,41S,40D+S,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
    Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
    74T: 37,38,47,151,193,241,435,570,610,654,655 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
    73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
    95 Ultra GM Sets: Golden Prospects,HR Kings,On-Base Leaders,Power Plus,RBI Kings,Rising Stars
  • jlvette50jlvette50 Posts: 328 ✭✭✭

    I haven't seen NSA mentioned yet, so thought I'd share. These are widely believed to be not authentic. (myself included)
    Did my part to take the Longo one's out of circulation. :) Even though likely not real, I do like the looks of them.

    image image image

    Longoria Collector. Love the Longo!https://psacard.com/psasetregistry/baseball/player-sets/evan-longoria-master-set/alltimeset/90851 600+ PSA Graded 4,700+ unique Longoria cards scanned on TCDB 800+ different Longo autograph cards Jeff

  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some cool companies have been added.

    This is not mine but I've seen many "Capitol" cards over the years.

    Mike
  • krisd3279krisd3279 Posts: 808 ✭✭✭✭

    @Stone193 said:
    Some cool companies have been added.

    This is not mine but I've seen many "Capitol" cards over the years.

    WOW! I'm guessing their scale goes up to at least 12 or 13 if that's a 9!

    Kris

    My 1971 Topps adventure - Davis Men in Black

  • _EagleEyeKid__EagleEyeKid_ Posts: 273 ✭✭✭

    @krisd3279 said:

    @Stone193 said:
    Some cool companies have been added.

    This is not mine but I've seen many "Capitol" cards over the years.

    WOW! I'm guessing their scale goes up to at least 12 or 13 if that's a 9!

    More like Capitol punishment.

  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭✭

    Sounds like Capitol Grading lasted about as long as Capitol Critters! :)

    https://youtu.be/ANFI375AsTU

    WISHLIST
    D's: 54S,53P,50P,49S,45D+S,44S,43D,41S,40D+S,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
    Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
    74T: 37,38,47,151,193,241,435,570,610,654,655 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
    73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
    95 Ultra GM Sets: Golden Prospects,HR Kings,On-Base Leaders,Power Plus,RBI Kings,Rising Stars
  • DBesse27DBesse27 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RyansRust said:
    Always thought it would be a neat collection to have one of each.

    Many are out of business

    AAA
    AAI ( American Authentication Inc)
    ADVANCEDGRADING.COM
    AGS (Advanced Grading Specialists)
    ALL STAR GRADING
    ASA (Accugrade Sportscard Authentication)
    ASGC (All Star Grading Company)
    BCCG (Beckett Collectors Club Grading)
    BCG
    BEARSTATS GRADING SERVICES
    BGS (Beckett Grading Service)
    BGUM (Beckett Game Used Memoabilia)
    Blue Chip
    BRG (Best Rate Grading)
    BSVA
    BVG (Beckett Vintage Grading
    Capital Grading
    CCS (Card Collector Services)
    CEX (Certified Express)
    CGA (Card Grading Authenticators)
    CGS (Champs Grading Service)
    CLG
    Compugrade
    CPG (Certified Pro Grading)
    CSA (Certified Sports Authentication)
    CSC (Sports Card Grading Service)
    CSG
    CTA
    DCS (Dallas Card Show)
    EGS (Express Grading Service)
    FGA
    FGS (Finest Grading Service)
    GAI (Global Authentication Inc.) (Bankrupt)
    GAI (Global Authority Inc) (new owners of GAI)
    GEM
    GEM Elite
    GEM-Sports
    GGI (Gem Grading Inc.)
    GGS (Gem Grading Services)
    GMA
    GRA (Graded Rookies Authenticated)
    GRADEMYCARDS.COM
    GRADING UNLIMITED
    IGX
    IKON
    ISA
    KSA (Kressler Sports Authentication)
    MAJOR LEAGUE GRADING
    MAP (Screw Down Holder)
    MGS (Masters Grading Services)
    MGS (Mint Grading Service)
    NASA (North American Sportscard Authentication)
    PCCG (Pro's Choice Card Graders)
    PCG (Professional Card Graders)
    PGA (Professional Grading Authority)
    PGC (Premier Grading Certification)
    PGC (Premier Grading Company -same as above?)
    PGC (Pro Grade Certified)
    PGI
    PGS (Professional Grading Service)
    PRE-Grading Service (uses screwdowns)
    Premium Sports Grading
    PRO (Pro Sports Grading)
    PSA (Professional Sports Authenticator)
    PSA (Pacific Sports Authority)
    PSG (Pristine Sportscard Grading)
    PTG
    RGA
    SBC (Superlative Baseball Card Certification)
    SCD Sports Collectors Digest (SCD) folded and was sold to Sports Card Direct (SCD)
    SGC (Sportscard Guaranty)
    SNAGGLETOOTH
    SPA (Authenticated)
    Sportscard Grading Association
    STADIUM CLUB GRADING
    SWG (Southwest Card Grading)
    TCG
    TFA (The Final Authority)
    TGA
    UGS
    USA (Ultimate Sportscard Authority)
    Verisleeve (Sticker on Card Saver)
    VGR (Venture 21)
    VGS
    VSA
    VSG Vanguard
    WCG (World Class Grading)

    MISC. --

    MINT/ROOKIE/BLANK (Looks like PSA flip and a Mini Pre -Tech 'self slab' with locking tabs) Supposed to become Atlas Grading Inc. with a website in 2010

    I got this thing below as a surprise freebie in a package I received today. Checked your list and, sure enough, Verisleeve is/was a thing. Amazing.

    Yaz Master Set
    #1 Gino Cappelletti master set
    #1 John Hannah master set

    Also collecting Andre Tippett, Patriots Greats' RCs, Dwight Evans, 1964 Venezuelan Topps, 1974 Topps Red Sox

  • krisd3279krisd3279 Posts: 808 ✭✭✭✭

    Wow! Business expenses were low with Verisleeve! A box of Card Savers, a sheet of Avery labels, a printer and hopefully some sort of Excel sheet to keep track of the serial numbers. I wonder what they charged for their 'service'.

    Kris

    My 1971 Topps adventure - Davis Men in Black

  • clarke442clarke442 Posts: 609 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know, I know . . . bumping an old post
    But
    I found/took some photos
    The 74 All-Star is one of my favorite Orr cards
    The Bourque is my very first "slabbed" card that I bought


  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Grabbed this because it's technically a NNOF, right?

  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Had to have this holder for .99.

    Authentic Enterprises Inc. - Rollie Fingers, President (and Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler and Imperial Wizard)

    I've never seen this grading company before? Ya gotta love the "stash" on the back of the flip!


    Mike
  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 11, 2021 2:53PM

    Before Beckett graded Star cards I sent 3 Jordan’s to CSA. At the time a very reputable Canadian company. Not sure if they even exist today but the holders have a foam insert and are extremely colorful. I’ll post later. Would they garner full Beckett value if sold?
    1985 CSA 8 Jordan Rookie of the year
    1986 CSA 8 Jordan Best of the Best
    1986 CSA 9 Jordan Best of the New

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
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