Help needed to identify two old foreign coins

OnWithTheHunt

Part of a small accumulation I recently purchased. Can't find the first one in the listing of irish coins in my very dated Krause.
Have no idea what the second one is either. Is it silver? Thanks.

harasha

The lower coin is Brazilian. Probably struck over a Spanish colonial.

BillDugan1959

First coin is indeed Irish, either a half-penny or one penny, in copper, Exactly which denomination depends on size and weight. King George IV. Appears to be common.

The crown-sized Brazilian 960 reis in silver is desirable, but the grade is lower than typically seen.

OnWithTheHunt

@BillDugan1959 said:
First coin is indeed Irish, either a half-penny or one penny, in copper, Exactly which denomination depends on size and weight. King George IV. Appears to be common.

Diameter is halfway between a US and a Canadian large cent, if that helps. Thanks again.i

MasonG

Maybe it's just me, but something looks odd on that Brazilian piece. Lettering is kind of funky and it has the appearance of a cast coin.

BillDugan1959

@MasonG said:
Maybe it's just me, but something looks odd on that Brazilian piece. Lettering is kind of funky and it has the appearance of a cast coin.

You may well be correct, or it may have been worn as jewelry in a hot climate for a long time.

neildrobertson

@MasonG said:
Maybe it's just me, but something looks odd on that Brazilian piece. Lettering is kind of funky and it has the appearance of a cast coin.

To me it has the looked of being corroded and then cleaned