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Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I think the people with the most money, that have put together or bought the nicest, most complete sets will win the PCGS registry set awards this year and every year. And why not?

What do you think??

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  • thepunkrockcoinguythepunkrockcoinguy Posts: 103
    yeh probally
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  • KeyrockKeyrock Posts: 961 ✭
    The only thing I could see is a loss of eligibility once you win the award (i.e. you can't be a repeat winner in the same category). Other wise the ones witht he depest pockets would probably win.

    Then again who cares? I collect because I like the coins. A plaque doesn't do much for me, after all, its just a marketing gimmick. I've seen a couple of collectors comment that they just charged up the credit cards over the last few weeks just to move up or be number 1.
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    When I first discovered the registry, I was caught up in the thought of getting it all and being way up there. Then reality sank in with my first credit card bill. Now I'm approaching this as something to work towards. And that it will take a while. I also know I'll never be #1 with morgans. But that's OK. :-)

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  • keithdagenkeithdagen Posts: 2,025 ✭
    I think that I have a cool set. Does it bother me that a couple of guys who have been blessed more than me have a cooler set. Absolutely not. They have worked hard to build their set and deserve the recognition that they will get. I put my set together knowing that I would never be #1, but still put some lofty goals in place for myself, and I am close to personal completion.
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  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    i wanted my set in the book, it was, im done image
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    PCGS needs to be more careful and specific in establishing the criteria for these contests. We saw what happened in the 3000th set contest. Well, in this one there is a glaring and easy way to cheat if one chose to do so.

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  • keithdagenkeithdagen Posts: 2,025 ✭
    Russ,

    How could someone cheat to get a #1 set? For most series, it would be impossible on short notice.
    Keith ™

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    I'm talking about the best new set category.

    Russ, NCNE
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  • keithdagenkeithdagen Posts: 2,025 ✭
    That category is arbitrary and solely dependent on the results of the judges. I think that a long-time set that deregistered and reregistered would get busted.
    Keith ™

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think that a long-time set that deregistered and reregistered would get busted. >>



    Yep, that method would be too obvious.

    Russ, NCNE

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  • keithdagenkeithdagen Posts: 2,025 ✭
    Did you have other ideas on how to cheat a set? We've covered many before in the past, and came to the consensus that it would be impossible to create a #1 set in a major category without already owning the coins.
    Keith ™

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>it would be impossible to create a #1 set in a major category without already owning the coins. >>



    It may not be necessary to create a #1 set in order to win one of the five "best new set" awards. The contest rules don't say anything about that being a requirement. And, yes, I have an idea of how one could cheat, but I'm not going to post it publicly.

    Russ, NCNE
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  • keithdagenkeithdagen Posts: 2,025 ✭
    Feel free to PM and I'll tell you if the idea has been discussed before.
    Keith ™

  • MikeBMikeB Posts: 26


    << <i>That category is arbitrary and solely dependent on the results of the judges. >>

    It is? I thought it was based on the ranking in the category.

    .B ekiM
  • DAMDAM Posts: 2,410 ✭✭
    I might one of the luckiest in the Registry. My set, while not cheap to complete in it's current state, is not anywhere near as expensive as most other other sets. Except for some of the moderns perhaps.

    I started collecting Two Cent pieces about 14 years ago. I bought my first "tied for finest know" about 10 years ago. I purchased my last coin the 1872 in MS66RD about 1 1/2 years ago, upgrading an MS65RD. The Registry didn't exsist when I decided to try to assemble a finest known set.

    My point is, it doesn't take winning a lottery to complete a nice set, even a finest known set. I guess I was lucky because I liked a series most would rather not bother with, except to add one to their type set. And I did it for the enjoyment of collecting, not recoginition by the Registry.

    Another thing to remember, while there are some fabulous sets listed in the Resistry, we aren't always seeing the best sets available, and probably won't. It is a marketing tool. And it is fun. But in the end, unless sets are made up of "finest known" coins, there's room for someone else to have one better.

    I'd rather have fun the have a plaque or certificate.

    DAM
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  • psxchellypsxchelly Posts: 568 ✭✭
    I think i agree to a certain point with "thebigeng".... Because I have a set in the modern type set category and some of those coins are a bit over priced in higher grades. In that case (Modern Proofs) the person with the most money wins.... but on the other hand I am not rich but was able to put together a very nice set that i am extremely pleased with.

    I think that there are very competitive people in this world (which is certainly okay IMHO) and they will do whatever it takes to win, no matter what the cost is. A perfect example is the 1997 Florida Marlins team.... A lot of us just need to understand that there will always be someone with a few more dollars that can buy a coin that moves him/her ahead of you by 1/10 of a point.
  • fletch2645fletch2645 Posts: 119
    As far as I'm concerned, the registry is a good place to keep up with your coins and that's about it!! I marvel at some of the #1 sets, but don't aspire to kick them off the pedastal. I'm proud of the sets that I own and will continue to upgrade whenever possible within the limits of my budget. In addition to several other sets that I'm involved with, my pride and joy is trying to complete a MS69 set of Gold Eagles in each denomination. I may never get there, but it's an every day challenge.image
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  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭✭
    These posts are curious.
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,145 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>These posts are curious. >>



    Like sh!t on the ceiling.

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  • CocoinutCocoinut Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "I think the people with the most money, that have put together or bought the nicest, most complete sets will win the PCGS registry set awards this year and every year"

    I think that's a forgone conclusion, and decided that when the awards were first announced, so I've given no thought to them. I enjoy assembling the best collection I can afford, even if it includes what some may consider "lowly" MS64's. In the long run, I believe most older coins will provide me with more enjoyment than common date modern coins that are condition rarities in ultra-high grades.

    Jim
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  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭✭
    Too funny, B. image
  • PhillyJoePhillyJoe Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭✭
    The registry give me a chance to see the collections of other people that collect the same coins I do. Where else could I do this? I'm like a kid in a candy store.

    Joe
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  • RGLRGL Posts: 3,784 ✭
    Agreed, Philly ... perchance to dream.
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  • fletch2645fletch2645 Posts: 119
    To me, the registry sets are both challenging and fun. The challenge is to complete the set and then it's fun to upgrade it ,as funds permit, to watch your set move up the ladder. I may never have any #1 sets, but have a lot of fun searching for the coins to watch my sets grow.image
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  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One of my points to this thread was to get PCGS to recognize hard working folks that have managed to put together some really nice sets that may not have the money to buy the 1804 dollar or ms 67 1895 morgan. Albeit not all the sets can be seen which begs the question, what is PCGS rewarding?? Hopefully not just plastic. I think everyone in the top ten of their field deserves some recognition and thoses with the nicest sets should get big prizes too.
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    I put together some nice sets, but I wish the prize was a great big bowl of blueberrys, with a little cream. Bears are very fond of that sort of thing you know. Bear
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  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭✭
    That's kinda creepy, unless you meant "bowl". image
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    RC - sorry about that. Bears have very big paws, and it is often difficult for us to hit exactly the right key. Thank you for your alert and timely correction. A" well done "growl for you.
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  • GQGQ Posts: 360
    Remember Bear.....you don't want the "public" mad at you......I know......
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    GQ - Boy o Boy do I every remember.
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  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭✭
    lol image I think I liked "bowel" better. (too funny)
  • BRdudeBRdude Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭
    Come on guys and gals. This is PCGS's way of rewarding their deep pocket friends for their participation. How else could PCGS give Jack Lee or Mike Casper, or some of the other big time dealer/collectors a nice plaque?? I would bet EVERYBODY knows the names of the folks who are going to win. Just look at the top 5 in your catagory. I doubt any of the hard working, struggling, add as they can collector gets any recognitoin at all.
    Thats all fine and dandy to me. Like most of you I collect what I can afford, and have no aspirations of ever reaching even probably the top 20. It is just a fun way of keeping track of what you have, what you need, and what others are doing. Thats it. PCGS can hype it as much as they want, but it is just mostly us PCGS members, and the top 10 or so in each catagory(if they aren't members) who are involved as emotionally as we areimage
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  • windycitytriowindycitytrio Posts: 63
    Brdude,
    I hate to say it but I agree with you.
    My SLQ registry set ain't cheap...I am averaging 65.87 and the coins cost over $1,000 each. I won't be finishing the set anytime soon but I am having fun. Like you said, since the set is not complete I do not anticipate getting anything from PCGS but stranger things have happened in life!
    It is possible for people to ask questions for no other reason than to educate themselves. The only stupid questions are those that are never asked.

  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Yeah, as I said, I don't expect anything. Unless they are going to have an "everybody gets a trophy" e-mail certificate just for participating. Or if they'll have a "miss congeniality" of coin sets...
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    I like deep pockets, it helps to keep my paws warm on cold days. Bear
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  • BRdudeBRdude Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭
    See, I've never spent that much on a coin. I think $490 is max, and that was more than my monthly budget. I could save up for a few months and not get anything, and as the coins get more and more expensive to add, that's what I'll have to do. It's tuff, but I say "onward thru the fog" and dream of some of the coins that I can't really afford. All in what a person wants I guess. Glad they got the registry back online anywayimage
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