Eye for Detail Test...You are the detective.
Insider2
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There is something in this magnified image of a Territorial Gold Piece that you should train your eyes to catch.
PLEASE READ THIS NEXT PART CAREFULLY SO YOU DON'T RUIN THIS "EXERCISE" FOR OTHER MEMBERS:
Please post ONLY what you see that is DIFFERENT in the image below. Please DON'T POST the reason what you see is different.
Thanks. Let's have some fun! 
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I see an image but without knowing what it's supposed to be "different" from I am clueless.
Some of those recessed areas are not like the others.
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@TwoKopeiki said:
Some of those recessed areas are not like the others.
Great eye!!! What else?
Interesting. The checkering does not look original. I have a "guess" on what happened but it would violate your rules. I am sure you will have this explained properly when I check back later.
Please finish...what looks abnormal besides the recessed area?
I see what you are aiming at. The question could be a little clearer.
I see a heart or ice cream cone instead of a diamond.
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The area where the mesh pattern is squishy and not well defined the diamond centers all have lots of raised lines, one even looks like captains bars.
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Indeed the textured area is different I think I know what happened, just not why...
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To me yes the recessed areas are a suspect but that rim also looks very round to me and I think I know why.
Also porous .
The raised devices in a roughly circular area at the center of the photo are crude compared to the devices at the periphery of the photo. The fields behind the devices in this same area are similarly crude and uneven. I’ve got a strong suspicion about what was done but find it slightly unusual for this type of coin
An area of the mesh is uneven, wider, and with disturbances on it and to the surfaces below.
Lance.
The lattice work goes from delicate, consistent, and well defined.....to a mix of wide and narrow, and inconsistent. (In addition to the mess within the mesh).
The raised areas are not of uniform thickness or evenness in the left central area.
@BryceM said: "The raised devices [scroll work] in a roughly circular area at the center of the photo are crude compared to the devices at the periphery of the photo. The fields behind the devices in this same area are similarly crude and uneven. I’ve got a strong suspicion about what was done but find it slightly unusual for this type of coin
You have summed it up. That is the other thing. Now what is crude about the raised design? Be specific, you are describing what you see to a blind person.
@MarkInDavis said:
The raised areas are not of uniform thickness or evenness in the left central area.
BINGO! Now you guys can post the reason the design is different.
Oops, missed this. Good eyes everyone!
Repaired plug.
What does the opposite side look like?
Not a perfect repair but not real bad either.
Both sides are shown.
Filled and repaired hole, was my guess. Had to recreate the checkering. left some material up against the rim too.
Dang and I thought you were going to tell us it was waffles from breakfast this morning!
Should have refreshed before posting I guess. My thought was repaired but the answer came too quick!
Filled hole.
Yep............and one of the lattices is oval.
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This was an excellent educational thread, thanks @Insider2!
I guessed it right from my first look even though I didn't post.
That was my conclusion. Pretty sneaky.
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Have photos of the whole coin?
Sorry, I don't.
A doctored hole in the coin.
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Looks like a gold tick on the rim
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@Insider2 I feel very ignorant asking this, but what type of coin is this?
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This is a really good post, thanks for sharing. Too bad you don't have a shot of the whole coin would be curious to see that area from viewing distance.
Unfortunately, many folks can miss things such as repairs UNLESS they are examining a coin slowly and closely. It even happens with coins in-hand! An excellent repaired chop get's missed much of the time at first and is then caught down the line. In fact, I showed one finalizer a repaired chop (excellent artistry) in the feathers of a Trade dollar and he refused to believe it.
IMO, if I posted the full $10 coin, most here would possibly not see anything special. It looks like a beat-up gold piece. When I started posting on another forum a few years ago, I was having folks pick the genuine coin (both were counterfeits but one was better made). I was trying to get them to look closely and see how good the fakes could get. Everyone got really mad. They accused me of being a show-off and worse! I'd
like to go back to trickery, but no way.
@Insider2 Thanks.
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Or is a "holed", "Plugged" or "Tooled" coin??? which would have priority on a Genuine holder ???
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Another very informative post @Insider2, thank you for posting and keep them coming.
Interesting, thanks @Insider2
One more reason why full coin images of both sides of the coin are important. The original picture was aligned as though the disturbance was at 9 o'clock on the reverse. With nothing other than that to go on, I had to assume the possibility that a pin had been soldered onto the coin at 9 o'clock with a corresponding clasp at 3 o'clock, with the solder later removed and the design "restored."
Great Question! AFAIK, a customer can send in a coin such as this and ask for a genuine only slab. In that case the label would read: "GENUINE."
Anyone know what PCGS< NGC, or ANACS would do with a plugged coin. Do they put""GENUINE, Plugged" on the label?
The fact that you noticed right away that the coin was "not right" is the important part.
When I teach authentication I tell the students the most important requirement of authentication is to know what the genuine specimen should look like. Then, when you see any coin, you may not know if it is genuine or authentic (that takes experience) but you will know one thing for sure: IT IS DIFFERENT from all those you have seen before! And that is half the battle and reason to check the piece further.