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Wanna design the 2020 Basketball HoF Commem?

BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

sigh. I won't ask why there's a commemorative for an organization who hardly needs the funds, but hey, I ain't congress.

POTUS signed late last year. Yet another domed issue. As I mentioned before, I think the bloom is off the rose...

The text of the law:
H.R.1235 — 115th Congress (2017-2018)

50K gold commems (fixed at 90%)
400K Silver, at least 90% and
750K clad

No pucks, nor any other weird issues.

Anyway, the Mint has issued a design contest:

The public competition has two phases. Phase One, which is open today through April 15, 2019, calls for artists age 18 and older to submit a digital portfolio, consisting of three to five examples of their existing work. Following a review of Phase One applications by an expert panel, up to 25 entries will be selected to participate in Phase Two. During Phase Two, artists will be paid a stipend of $1,000 to submit a two-dimensional digital design for the common obverse of the coin. The Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee (CCAC) and the U.S. Commission of Fine Arts (CFA) will review the designs at their public committee meetings. After considering input from the subject matter experts at the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame and recommendations from the CCAC and the CFA, the Secretary of the Treasury will select one artist’s design to serve as the basis for the obverse of the coins. The same design will be used on the gold, silver, and clad coins. The final winner will be announced later this year.

You can read the press release here:
United States Mint Launches Public Design Competition for Basketball Hall of Fame Commemorative Coins

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  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One of two... wonder what the other commem will be...

  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,643 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hemispherical said:
    One of two... wonder what the other commem will be...

    A very timely question.....

    2020 is the 400th anniversary of the landing of the Pilgrims at Plymouth Mass. Bills to authorize a commem coin program have been introduced over the past few years, but so far no success. There was, of course, a 350th half in 1920.

  • TheRavenTheRaven Posts: 4,143 ✭✭✭✭

    Why do they find it interesting to use the same design on the gold, silver and clad coins?

    I like basketball and I have no interest in these coins next year.

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  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Latest legislative information from Congress.gov. There are many new commems “introduced,” some passed House or Senate but none have passed both, except the OP (which was the 115th Congress, we are now in the the 116th Congress.)

    Search reference “Coin act”:

    https://www.congress.gov/search?q={"source":"legislation","search":"Coin act"}&searchResultViewType=expanded

    Might get (non-commem) Presidential $1 (Bush) and First Lady (Barbara) bullion for 2019(?).

  • cursivecursive Posts: 15 ✭✭

    There are common designs because Congress just copypasted the text of the baseball coin act. No one in Congress cares about the quality of the designs on commemorative coins, just the subjects. Quality control is the job of the CCAC and CFA.

    National Baseball Hall of Fame Commemorative Coin Act

    (c) Selection and Approval Process for Obverse Design.

    (1) In general.--The Secretary shall hold a competition to determine the design of the common obverse of the coins minted under this Act, with such design being emblematic of the game of baseball.

    (2) Selection and approval.--Proposals for the design of coins minted under this Act may be submitted in accordance with the design selection and approval process developed by the Secretary in the sole discretion of the Secretary. The Secretary shall encourage 3-dimensional models to be submitted as part of the design proposals.

    (3) Proposals.--As part of the competition described in this subsection, the Secretary may accept proposals from artists,
    engravers of the United States Mint, and members of the general public.

    (4) Compensation.--The Secretary shall determine compensation for the winning design under this subsection, which
    shall be not less than $5,000. The Secretary shall take into account this compensation amount when determining the sale price described in section 6(a).

    (d) Reverse Design.--The design on the common reverse of the coins minted under this Act shall depict a baseball similar to those used by Major League Baseball.

    vs

    Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame Commemorative Coin Act

    (c) Selection And Approval Process For Obverse Design.—

    (1) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary shall hold a competition to determine the design of the common obverse of the coins minted under this Act, with such design being emblematic of the game of basketball.

    (2) SELECTION AND APPROVAL.—Proposals for the design of coins minted under this Act may be submitted in accordance with the design selection and approval process developed by the Secretary in the sole discretion of the Secretary.

    (3) PROPOSALS.—As part of the competition described in this subsection, the Secretary may accept proposals from artists, engravers and other employees of the United States Mint, other Government employees, and members of the general public.

    (4) COMPENSATION.—The Secretary shall determine compensation for the winning design under this subsection, which shall be not less than $5,000. The Secretary shall take into account this compensation amount when determining the sale price described in section 6(a).

    (d) Reverse Design.—The design on the common reverse of the coins minted under this Act shall depict a basketball.

  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 5, 2019 1:31AM

    To answer the question.

    No.

    An innovative design for basketball will be tough without it being so obvious.

  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    2019 is, arguably, a good year for the Mint and probably will continue through the end of 2019.

    2020:

    Two commems a year and the Basketball HoF commem is the first.

    Possible number 2:

    S1235, “Women's Suffrage Centennial Commemorative Coin Act” has passed the Senate on 4 June. Waiting on the house.

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,722 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Domed or doomed?

  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 9, 2019 10:57AM

    OK. Here's my entry:

    Obverse (or reverse) --- A large letter " O "
    Reverse (or obverse) --- A bottle of overpriced 'Cristal' champagne.
    Edge (or obverse or reverse) --- NBA rule book - complete - in small letters.

    Alternate design:

    Obverse --- Blank
    Reverse --- Nil
    Edge --- [None]

    OK. I know these are challenging designs, but surely some great artist, paid the princely sum of $1,500, can execute them. (Was that a pun?)

    Game note: At the end of regulation time the Head (or Tail) Referee shall be required to flip one of the commemorative coins to determine the winner of the game, regardless of the actual score.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,643 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Let's make it as ugly or unappealing as possible.

    Actually, let's think outside the box. Let's put a baseball on one side and a glove on the other. And since that's already been done, let's just call the whole thing off. :*

  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,643 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Let's get together as collectors and chip in to make a donation to the Basketball Hall of Fame and skip the coin program. :p

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 9, 2019 11:35AM

    RE: "...make it as ugly or unappealing as possible."

    That's a "given" considering the tiny remuneration the US Mint pays for designs. Might as well be an end-of-5th-grade class project.


    Never mind. Entries withdrawn. This is too easy a target for sarcasm.

  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,349 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BryceM said:
    Domed or doomed?

    How about both? Yet another commemorative which will be lost in obscurity years from now.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,499 ✭✭✭✭✭

    “I got no basketball jones,
    I got no basketball Jones,
    I got no basketball Jones,
    Ooooh-Eeeeeeh-Ooooh!”

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 7,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I did participate in the previous Baseball, WW1, and Apollo 11 design competitions. But I'm not a basketball fan, so I'm going to pass on this one.

    To think that a guy came up with a minor pastime of throwing a ball into a basket, it seems absurd that such a banal activity has become what it is today. But I suppose the same thing could be said about golf, and I can actually play golf or watch golf on TV without getting too bored. So I guess I can see how some people could enjoy it as a spectator sport.

    Anyway, if I was in charge of this new coin, I would make it in two parts: as an outer ring with a hole in it (the basket) and a smaller coin (made out of a different metal) that would fit in the hole (the "ball"). Put the two together and you would have a ringed bi-metallic coin. I would make it so the two parts could be easily separated. That way, you could play tiddly-winks (or whatever) with them.

    Hmm... maybe I SHOULD enter ... but it appears my idea is already shot down because the dopes in Congress have already mandated the size, shape, weight, composition, denomination, and to some extent the designs of the coins.

  • WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,034 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Possibly the Treasury Department can use another gimmick, they could re-open the Carson City Mint and manufacture the entire run there.

    :)

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe it could be made in Canada - after all, it was invented by Canadian James Naismith.

  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hemispherical said:
    2019 is, arguably, a good year for the Mint and probably will continue through the end of 2019.

    2020:

    Two commems a year and the Basketball HoF commem is the first.

    Possible number 2:

    S1235, “Women's Suffrage Centennial Commemorative Coin Act” has passed the Senate on 4 June. Waiting on the house.

    And if you don't think a women's commem won't pass in an election year, keep dreaming.

    No problem here, I'm trying to shrink my collection. Failed with the Apollo commems, but 2020 looks good!

    @RogerB said:
    Maybe it could be made in Canada - after all, it was invented by Canadian James Naismith.

    The Aztec's had a version, something like 3 centuries ago. Now that might make an interesting coin...

  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 10, 2019 3:42AM

    @BackroadJunkie said:

    @RogerB said:
    Maybe it could be made in Canada - after all, it was invented by Canadian James Naismith.

    The Aztec's had a version, something like 3 centuries ago. Now that might make an interesting coin...

    Don’t have to worry about rematches.

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