Anthony Davis just asked to be traded.

erikthredd

Which hurts Boston's chances of making a deal for him because they already acquired a player under the Derrick Rose Rule in Kyrie. The C's can't officially make a trade offer for AD until Kyrie's contract expires this offseason unless they ship Kyrie to NO's as part of the deal.
Hopefully the Pelicans GM holds off until this offseason so he can assess the best offers out there.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25868546/anthony-davis-told-new-orleans-pelicans-re-sign

perkdog

So I’m trying to figure out who is the bigger bunch of crybabies, NBA or MLB players?

erikthredd

They're all divas,no doubt. I would just like to have this particular diva playing for the Celtics.

bronco2078

Big Baby davis yup

JoeBanzai

@perkdog said:
So I’m trying to figure out who is the bigger bunch of crybabies, NBA or MLB players?

It's not even close here in Minnesota. Of course the Twins seldom (Chuck Knobhead being the exception) have any good players, so it's tough for them to be classified as "divas".

hammer1

Lakers need this Diva, that's why he switched to LeBron's agent.

Unfortunately the Lakers don't have the assets that Boston does, so there's that. For the Lakers to get him before Boston has a chance they would have to give up Ingram, Zo, and Kuzma, and a first. They won't do this.

Hated Dirty Danny Ainge as a player, but I give him credit as a GM. He has amassed a ton of good draft picks and his scouts have picked well. Unlike trust fund baby- Jim Buss who has run the Lakers into the ground.

The Lakers need to get this diva before Boston opens its war chest.

SanctionII

If Durant and Cousins leave GS I can see HS trying to avquire Davis.

hammer1

"Pelicans reportedly asking Lakers for Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Ivica Zubac, first-round pick in Anthony Davis trade" https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2019/1/28/18200759/lakers-trade-rumors-anthony-davis-lonzo-ball-brandon-ingram-kyle-kuzma-ivica-zubac-first-round-pick

Do it Magic!

erikthredd

"Hearing from sources if Lakers want Anthony Davis, who has requested a trade, LA has to start the deal with Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Ivica Zubac, No. 1 pick."

If that site is to be believed, that is where the negotiations start not what it will take and Anthony Davis is worth much more than that pathetic trade offer. You can add Ingram & Hart and it still wouldn't be that great of return,I doubt the Pelicans are trying to morph into the 2017-18 Lakers that were horrible.

hammer1

AD wants nothing to to do with Boston.

Irving wants out of the Boston dump too. lol

"Regarding team preferences, Boston is not a top target for Davis, sources said. There's a growing belief of uncertainty that Kyrie Irving will not re-sign with Boston, sources said, even though he vowed to do so at the beginning of the season."

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/anthony-davis-trade-rumors-celtics-not-high-on-all-stars-list-of-preferred-destinations/

erikthredd

I never said he was coming to Boston. He'll end up with the Lakers somehow and Magic & Lebron will miraculously not get fined for Tampering...again in Magic's case.

And in case you missed it,Boston has made back to back Eastern Conference Finals without Kyrie.

bronco2078

@hammer1 said:
AD wants nothing to to do with Boston.

Irving wants out of the Boston dump too. lol

"Regarding team preferences, Boston is not a top target for Davis, sources said. There's a growing belief of uncertainty that Kyrie Irving will not re-sign with Boston, sources said, even though he vowed to do so at the beginning of the season."

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/anthony-davis-trade-rumors-celtics-not-high-on-all-stars-list-of-preferred-destinations/

Irving thinks the earth is flat. He has been playing great but he is a douche and needs to go.

hammer1

Looks like the reports have validity.

This out on CBS news: According to a report from The Athletic's Shams Charania, Ball -- who could be included in a trade between the New Orleans Pelicans and Los Angeles Lakers -- would prefer to be sent to a third team if that happens.

Ball was said to be untouchable. It isn't looking that way now.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/anthony-davis-trade-rumors-lakers-lonzo-ball-doesnt-want-to-play-for-pelicans-per-report/

galaxy27

i feel for the Pels. probably the best player their franchise will ever possess and he's about to show the entire city the bottom of his shoes. if i'm them, i'm playing the Lakers & Celtics like a fiddle. you want AD? ok, well you best be prepared to give us every young player we covet, at bare minimum a first rounder, a handful of your hottest cheerleaders, and one or two of your statues outside the arena.

hammer1

and Magic's 2.3 percent share of the Dodgers, that he paid $50M for.

erikthredd

@galaxy27 said:
i feel for the Pels. probably the best player their franchise will ever possess and he's about to show the entire city the bottom of his shoes. if i'm them, i'm playing the Lakers & Celtics like a fiddle. you want AD? ok, well you best be prepared to give us every young player we covet, at bare minimum a first rounder, a handful of your hottest cheerleaders, and one or two of your statues outside the arena.

It all comes down to how soon do the Pelican's went to get this deal done? if its this week then good luck rebuilding your team into last season's 35-47 Lakers team. if its the offseason where Boston can get in on it,Ainge should with start with choice of players or picks not named Kyrie/Tatum. Even without those two names there are tons of assests to get back from Ainge. We'll see soon enough what happens.

erikthredd

The Pelican's statement earlier today:
This past weekend, Anthony Davis’ representatives informed us that Anthony does not wish to sign a contract extension with our team and subsequently has requested a trade. Although we are disappointed in this decision, our organization’s top priority is to bring an NBA championship to our city and fans and build our team for long-term success.

Relative to specific talks of a trade, we will do this on our terms and our timeline. One that makes the most sense for our team and it will not be dictated by those outside of our organization. We have also requested the League to strictly enforce the tampering rules associated with this transaction.

Justacommeman

@erikthredd said:

@galaxy27 said:
i feel for the Pels. probably the best player their franchise will ever possess and he's about to show the entire city the bottom of his shoes. if i'm them, i'm playing the Lakers & Celtics like a fiddle. you want AD? ok, well you best be prepared to give us every young player we covet, at bare minimum a first rounder, a handful of your hottest cheerleaders, and one or two of your statues outside the arena.

It all comes down to how soon do the Pelican's went to get this deal done? if its this week then good luck rebuilding your team into last season's 35-47 Lakers team. if its the offseason where Boston can get in on it,Ainge should with start with choice of players or picks not named Kyrie/Tatum. Even without those two names there are tons of assests to get back from Ainge. We'll see soon enough what happens.

I think Tatum has to be in the deal or it’s a non starter

m

erikthredd

@Justacommeman said:

@erikthredd said:

@galaxy27 said:
i feel for the Pels. probably the best player their franchise will ever possess and he's about to show the entire city the bottom of his shoes. if i'm them, i'm playing the Lakers & Celtics like a fiddle. you want AD? ok, well you best be prepared to give us every young player we covet, at bare minimum a first rounder, a handful of your hottest cheerleaders, and one or two of your statues outside the arena.

It all comes down to how soon do the Pelican's went to get this deal done? if its this week then good luck rebuilding your team into last season's 35-47 Lakers team. if its the offseason where Boston can get in on it,Ainge should with start with choice of players or picks not named Kyrie/Tatum. Even without those two names there are tons of assests to get back from Ainge. We'll see soon enough what happens.

I think Tatum has to be in the deal or it’s a non starter

m

I think Ainge would include him in a deal but the rest of the package just got smaller.with Tatum in it. Without Tatum I'd offer:
Brown
Rozier's rights
Williams
Hayward or Horford(has a 31M expiring contract)
2019 Kings pick 1st (!st overall protected)
2019 Grizzlies 1st (8th overall protected)
2019 Clippers 1st (14th overall protected)
2019 Celtics 1st
2021 Celtics 1st

No team can match the players & picks that Boston has.

Justacommeman

I can see a Tatum, Brown the Memphis pick and an expiring contract being more attractive then anything the Lakers can through together

m

erikthredd

@Justacommeman said:
I can see a Tatum, Brown the Memphis pick and an expiring contract being more attractive then anything the Lakers can through together

m

Assuming this deal gets done in the offseason, they would have Morris's 2018 Bird Rights & Rozier's 2018 RFA rights and Horford's 2019 31M expiring contract is the one that makes sense.

craig44

@perkdog said:
So I’m trying to figure out who is the bigger bunch of crybabies, NBA or MLB players?

NFL wide recievers

bronco2078

No not Tatum but they can have brown and rozier and marcus smart and all the extraneous retired number banners that don't belong in the rafters

erikthredd

Looks like the NBA just started another investigation into the Lakers for tampering again. No surprise there.

hammer1

"... multiple league sources expect the agent and star to soon deliver word throughout the league that Davis’ preferred destination is the Lakers and he’ll become a rental player until 2020 with a trade anywhere else."

https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2019/1/29/18201757/nba-rumors-anthony-davis-trade-la-lakers-request-long-term-extension-rich-paul-lebron-james

erikthredd

Yup and Paul George wanted to be a Laker too and how did that go again? LA knew this ahead of time,hence the investigation for tampering. Seeing that the Pelicans front office asked for the investigation in the first place tells us that the Lakers knowledge of the situation wasn't considered on the up & up.
Once AD's agent asked for the trade it then became all about NO's getting the absolute best return possible regardless of which team AD wants to go to. I'm not saying he definitely won't get dealt to LA just that the Pels owe him nothing now and if Boston,Toronto,Denver or whoever come with a better trade offer then he's probably not heading to LA. There's also no incentive to move him by the deadline if they know that they can get a much better return in the offseason. The Lakers best offer won't change much if this gets put off till July.

keets

for Boston the question is a simple one --- Are they a better Team with Anthony Davis or Kyrie Irving??

hammer1

Klay Thompson free agency rumors: Warriors star could consider signing with the Lakers, if they get AD, per report.

"According to Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN - via an appearance on SportsCenter - Thompson would consider joining the Lakers if they were able to add disgruntled New Orleans Pelicans forward Anthony Davis through a trade, and if the Warriors didn't offer him max money as a free agent. "

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/klay-thompson-free-agency-rumors-warriors-star-could-consider-signing-with-the-lakers-per-report/

erikthredd

@keets said:
for Boston the question is a simple one --- Are they a better Team with Anthony Davis or Kyrie Irving??

Well how could anyone answer that when one player has played for the team and the other hasn't? Kyrie and the Celtics were the #1 seed for most of last season before he needed surgery. The Celtics have stepped back this season but Kyrie isn't one of their problems. That being said I'd prefer AD over Kyrie,Davis is one of my favorite players.

erikthredd

@hammer1 said:
Klay Thompson free agency rumors: Warriors star could consider signing with the Lakers, if they get AD, per report.

"According to Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN - via an appearance on SportsCenter - Thompson would consider joining the Lakers if they were able to add disgruntled New Orleans Pelicans forward Anthony Davis through a trade, and if the Warriors didn't offer him max money as a free agent. "

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/klay-thompson-free-agency-rumors-warriors-star-could-consider-signing-with-the-lakers-per-report/

I doubt Klay leaves GS and I wouldn't go believing any rumors a week before the trade deadline. If we did then Paul Geroge,Jimmy Butler & Blake Griffin would all be in Celtics green.

hammer1

Klay grew up in the LA area, and was a Laker fan, with his dad playing for the Lakers; and is now the radio color man for them.

Lakers made a huge mistake in not including Ball for Paul George. Then doubled down and refused to include Kuzma for Kawhi Leonard.

All of which makes me question Magic and Pelinka's abilities.

erikthredd

Yes this is all well known. He's also said numerous times he wants to re-sign with the Warriors.

hammer1

Yes he has.

This part is new, if he can't get max contract.

At some point GSW will get tired of the huge luxury tax on Curry, Durant, Klay, and Green. Don't forget DeMarcus Cousins huge new contract too.

The repeater tax is a killer.

erikthredd

I think there is a better chance of Durant leaving than Klay. If KD leaves Klay gets his max money.

hammer1

If he's available this summer, I wonder if Ainge would give up a lot to risk losing him after one year?

erikthredd

Ainge has been holding all of these assets for this one player and I honestly think that if Boston trades for him they'll convince him to stay longterm. I don't know what players/picks it will take to get him but if Ainge offers Tatum & Brown & picks,there won't be a better offer out there.

hammer1

AD just fined 50K for saying he wants out.

I think it will be impossible for AD or his agent to now proclaim, "Lakers only acceptable destination".

https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2019/1/29/18202657/nba-trade-rumors-lakers-pelicans-anthony-davis-lebron-james-klutch-nba-investigating-tampering

erikthredd

The NBA is probably going to make it real hard for LA to trade for him now. I'm surprised he got fined but Lebron didn't for talking about playing with him awhile back.

keets

though I haven't seen Davis play a whole lot I have seen a lot of Irving. the biggest complaint I would say about him is that he tends to be selfish. that may be why Boston played pretty good when he was injured, they have a lot of good players but only one ball. Davis would be better for defense.

bronco2078

@keets said:
though I haven't seen Davis play a whole lot I have seen a lot of Irving. the biggest complaint I would say about him is that he tends to be selfish. that may be why Boston played pretty good when he was injured, they have a lot of good players but only one ball. Davis would be better for defense.

Apparently he hated being in LeBron's shadow but out of that shadow he wants to be LeBron . He needs a shrink

hammer1

"Kyrie Irving 'genuinely interested' in reuniting with LeBron James on Lakers, report says".

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-free-agency-rumors-celtics-kyrie-irving-genuinely-interested-in-reuniting-with-lebron-james-on-lakers/1rxy2yuynxcu1w1zbyuq8shw8

bronco2078

@hammer1 said:
"Kyrie Irving 'genuinely interested' in reuniting with LeBron James on Lakers, report says".

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-free-agency-rumors-celtics-kyrie-irving-genuinely-interested-in-reuniting-with-lebron-james-on-lakers/1rxy2yuynxcu1w1zbyuq8shw8

see what I mean? they were on the same team , Mr the earth is flat wasn't getting enough attention so had to run away to boston and wreck the cavs out of spite , then le bron gave up and went to LA now Kyrie wants him back.

He wants to marry LeBron

But seriously . if thats possible here , why should lebron trust this nitwit? No Kyrie you won't be needed here in LA

bronco2078

I know why Kyrie wants to go to LA , its because he believes in Magic

hammer1

Kyrie would fit right in with this LA type guy:...see video

https://3mules.com/

erikthredd

I believe that Kyrie wants to go team up with Lebron again about as much as Kyrie wanting to team up with Jimmy Butler in NY. I wouldn't believe 99% of the crap that the media is throwing around a week before the trade deadline.

If Kyrie decides to play elsewhere next season it will have cost him 80M. Boston is the only team that can offer a 5yr SuperMax contract. No way he's turning down all of that money.

erikthredd

@keets said:
though I haven't seen Davis play a whole lot I have seen a lot of Irving. the biggest complaint I would say about him is that he tends to be selfish. that may be why Boston played pretty good when he was injured, they have a lot of good players but only one ball. Davis would be better for defense.

Kyrie has made a considerable effort to get his teammates involved this season,early on certain guys couldn't hit a wide open shot to save their life but during this past month and a half,Kyrie has been racking up many more assists and at times has tried to not be the main focus on offense by taking so many shots.

hammer1

"Pelicans see Lonzo Ball as ‘a key part’ of any Anthony Davis trade package with Lakers..." https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2019/1/30/18203357/lakers-trade-rumors-anthony-davis-lonzo-ball-new-york-knicks-chicago-bulls-brooklyn-nets

Take him, please, I'll even throw in 5 unopened 5oz Apollo pucks.

erikthredd

There are also reports that Lonzo's camp(likely his father) have said he doesn't want to go to the Pelicans and would prefer the Knicks. He or his father could become a problem by holding up a potential AD to LA deal.

bronco2078

@erikthredd said:
There are also reports that Lonzo's camp(likely his father) have said he doesn't want to go to the Pelicans and would prefer the Knicks. He or his father could become a problem by holding up a potential AD to LA deal.

How ? by making the destination team refuse to take his dad? I could see that.

You think LeBron's "camp" is a pain in the ass? Lonzo's "camp( just the one ignorant daddy)" is worse all pain and no gain

erikthredd

@bronco2078 said:

@erikthredd said:
There are also reports that Lonzo's camp(likely his father) have said he doesn't want to go to the Pelicans and would prefer the Knicks. He or his father could become a problem by holding up a potential AD to LA deal.

How ? by making the destination team refuse to take his dad? I could see that.

You think LeBron's "camp" is a pain in the ass? Lonzo's "camp( just the one ignorant daddy)" is worse all pain and no gain

Between all the "He's only gonna play for the Lakers" drama going into the 2017 draft and Lonzo having some mysterious knee injury that came out of nowhere once his name was mentioned in trade talks for Kawhi, All I'm saying is don't underestimate Daddy destroying any potential trade.

bronco2078

Lonzo needs to go full abe lincoln on his dad before he gets cut