Amazing Complete Type Set Average!
Swan
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Some of you may not have noticed...I sure did! High Desert is very close to a 65 average with his complete type set! Without sounding too selfgratifiying, this is an amazing accomplishment. I can speak from experience assembling my set in mint state. Many coins are simply not available in high grade mint state, either there are few coins certified; the 1793 liberty cap cent as an example, or if they exist, they are locked up in other great collections; a few examples are the 1793 chain cent, the 1792 half disme, 1796 no stars quarter eagle, 1808 quarter eagle, and the 1838/39 no motto eagle. Try to buy no drapery quarters or half dollars in ms 64 and 65 as well as arrows and rays quarters and halves in ms65...quality coins are few and far between. Find any flowing hair, draped bust small eagle, or draped bust large eagle
dollar in ms64 or ms65 and consider yourself fortunate and be prepared to spend $50,000.- $150,000.
This is an accomplishment that surpasses any registry set with the possible exception of Trade Dollar Nut's
collection.
Maybe someday we'll be able to view it.
Congratulations H.D.
dollar in ms64 or ms65 and consider yourself fortunate and be prepared to spend $50,000.- $150,000.
This is an accomplishment that surpasses any registry set with the possible exception of Trade Dollar Nut's
collection.
Maybe someday we'll be able to view it.
Congratulations H.D.
JSwan / Swan Family Type Collection
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Rich
The Ludlow Brilliant Collection (1938-64)
You are absolutely right. Some of the pieces for this set are rare even in grades below VF, and High has managed almost a 65 average.
His gold set averages 64.50, leaving a 65.09 average on the Copper, Silver and Nickel portion of the set.
In the modern arena (1900-forward), he's at 67.00 for CSN and 66.00 for the gold.
Great set!
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Tom
Weren't you going to open your set up for viewing at some point?
Your set is very impressive and something to be proud of. I am putting one together but have not registered it yet(someday maybe).
Just out of curiosity if you don't mind talking about it why do you hid your set? There have been a lot of threads on here with a lot of speculation but its all just that speculation.
Hope this is not to intrusive.
Bill
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
Regarding HD's set, I feel like I'm in kindergarden trying to compete against Michael Jordan when I compare my entire collection againt HD's Complete Type Set.
High Desert, if you do show your set someday, please include images! I think I would take a day off work just to look at those coins.
Another set to look at, if you haven't already, is the Cardinal Collection of Early Dollars. What a beautiful collection of silver dollars! Love those Bust Dollars!
DAM
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Sean
Thanks to you and the rest for the kind words. As you point out and well know from your experiences, the early coins are hard to come by in high grades. I have spent the past few months concentrating on only ten coins of the set. The recent upgrades have been accomplished with eight of the ten, giving you an idea of how drastic the upgrades have been. One of the coins was originally a VF-30 and I managed to replace it with a MS-62. It has truly been a gas to find these babies (and to have them available).
Braddick,
I still think you have hit upon the best way to collect. My Complete Type Set stays in the bank and never sees the light of day. I see it maybe once every six months in the little room next to the vault. The Braddick-style Set, however, stays at home and is there to enjoy, worn though it may be...
High Desert
09/07/2006
Congratulations!
What you are doing is exactly what I hope to accomplish someday. But those pesky patterns seem to get in the way all the time!!!!
I have conversed with swan and he seems like a really nice fellow. He seems to really take pleasure in seeing other collections get built and put together and upgraded.
I do send my sympathies to you on your having to visit your set (like many of us) when time permits! I could send you an old dateless buffalo nickel just to have around in your pocket to ease the pain and withdrawal symptoms. LOL.
al h.
If you haven't noticed, Swan has now unmasked his set. And what a beauty it is!
As I have commented before, his early dates are OUTSTANDING. Indeed, of the 24 types 1792-1808, Swan and I are tied in 8 categories, I have higher grades in 7 categories and Swan has the better of me in 9 categories. When weighting comes to this set I expect Swan would close the gap significantly.
He obviously has only filled holes with his 1900-1964 coins. This man has a passion (which I share) for early American coins!
Swan's set deserves strong consideration for one of PCGS's soon-to-be-awarded plaques. I didn't see anywhere in the rules where a set had to be #1 to be considered.
And I vote for Swan continuing the quest with upgrades. Speaking for myself, I find the search for finer examples to be almost as much fun as the original search.
Way to go, Swan!!
High Desert
do you guys tend to locate slabbed coins or raw coins?
regarding raw coins, which do you feel have been your biggest accomplishments?
al h.
I too am keeping my coins at MS-65 or better but have not yet hit the stone wall of type coins that simply are not available in 65 let alone mint state.
I have worked with the dime and $20 gold to try to stay focused within a more narrow range (except for 20th century coins which is easier to locate) but it is hard to choose when so many nice coins come around.
Of course, spouses want to know why they are getting coins instead of jewelry for their presents. :-)
(HINT) It helps to buy the type coins that you need with their birthyear on the coins as it helps in your "argument" that it really was for them!
I don't buy any coin that I, or my advisor/dealer haven't seen. Therefore I have never purchased a coin from e-bay! I buy from established dealers and from major shows and auctions. I try to buy original (undipped) coins that are PQ for the grade and have good eye appeal. I learned through experience, as we all do, and when I started collecting (before PCGS) I bought many coins that were overgraded and not very attractive. Later losses from selling those unattractive coins was written off to the cost of education.
Read the book before you buy the coin!
super collections guys, congrats really not enough to say.
bruce scher
I caught the jewelry bit, but how do you justify that 1796 $2.50 No Stars?
I have not had the opportunity to see any of HD's or Swan's coins, but I saw a lot of Bill Walser's SLQ's at a show in May at several dealer tables and they were very nice. I know that he has a great Type set going as well that is nearly complete.