Curt Schilling gets a huge endorsement for the Hall of Fame

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 19,594 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Curt’s biggest problem is his mouth. I love the guy for what he did for Boston and definitely agree with some of the stuff he has said over the years but why anyone would care one way or another whathe has to say outside of baseball is beyond me.

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 7,559 ✭✭✭✭✭

    baseball hall of fame? or computer gaming?

  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 3,136 ✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    Curt’s biggest problem is his mouth. I love the guy for what he did for Boston and definitely agree with some of the stuff he has said over the years but why anyone would care one way or another whathe has to say outside of baseball is beyond me.

    Gotta agree, Curt's mouth is really his achilles heel. I often wonder why "people in his position" open the pie hole and insert entire leg.

    Hey Paul...great game last night. I was on the edge of my seat. Brady is money when the chips are down with a short period of time left. Gotta give props to KC, they have a great team.
    Don't freeze up there!! B) Pretty nippy where I am, between Atlanta and Augusta, GA, 21 this AM...ccccold for us.

    Take care,
    Al

  • pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭✭✭

    With baseball if you open your mouth and say something stupid no HOF for you. If you tweeted something when you were 14-15 sensitiveity training for you. If you are Labron James in basketball and say something like that about a group of people NOTHING happens

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 19,594 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MCMLVTopps said:

    @perkdog said:
    Curt’s biggest problem is his mouth. I love the guy for what he did for Boston and definitely agree with some of the stuff he has said over the years but why anyone would care one way or another whathe has to say outside of baseball is beyond me.

    Gotta agree, Curt's mouth is really his achilles heel. I often wonder why "people in his position" open the pie hole and insert entire leg.

    Hey Paul...great game last night. I was on the edge of my seat. Brady is money when the chips are down with a short period of time left. Gotta give props to KC, they have a great team.
    Don't freeze up there!! B) Pretty nippy where I am, between Atlanta and Augusta, GA, 21 this AM...ccccold for us.

    Take care,
    Al

    3 degrees here AL! Nothing good about the weather here bud but that game last night makes it ok 👍. Hope all is well with you to my friend 🍻

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 19,104 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 21, 2019 2:49PM

    Well considering the ballots were
    due like 3 weeks ago this endorsement is just typical :D

    Schilling belongs in a the hall for his baseball prowess although he will never make it. He’s a nut job. Matter of fact we should try to recruit him to the sports forum. We could use another conspiracy theorist. Glicker has been slacking

    LOVED to watch Curt pitch. I cringe when he opens his mouth. That’s where the sock should go

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  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 4,494 ✭✭✭

    I do not understand how anyone in their right mind can objectively vote for Roy Halladay and Mike Mussina, and NOT vote for Curt Schilling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Steve

  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 4,494 ✭✭✭
    edited January 24, 2019 2:48PM

    @pocketpiececommems said:
    With baseball if you open your mouth and say something stupid no HOF for you. If you tweeted something when you were 14-15 sensitiveity training for you. If you are Labron James in basketball and say something like that about a group of people NOTHING happens

    ----------WARNING, Political Rant Ahead!----------

    Deleted, as it was not appropriate here.

    I apologize to all of you.

    Steve

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 19,104 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SDSportsFan said:

    @pocketpiececommems said:
    With baseball if you open your mouth and say something stupid no HOF for you. If you tweeted something when you were 14-15 sensitiveity training for you. If you are Labron James in basketball and say something like that about a group of people NOTHING happens

    ----------WARNING, Political Rant Ahead!----------

    That's an enormous problem in our society as a whole, not just in sports.

    If you're on the left, you can say and do absolutely anything, and be applauded and honored for it. On the other hand, if you're on the right, and you say the exact same thing, you get strung up and fried!

    Steve

    I will retort

    BS

    End of rant

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  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 6,700 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As if the HOF isn't a complete joke already, Curt's current exclusion while "highly likely" PED users are being seriously considered is insane. If Clemens or Bonds gets elected before him, I'll puke.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 19,104 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LarkinCollector said:
    As if the HOF isn't a complete joke already, Curt's current exclusion while "highly likely" PED users are being seriously considered is insane. If Clemens or Bonds gets elected before him, I'll puke.

    I agree

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  • garnettstylegarnettstyle Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭

    @SDSportsFan said:

    @pocketpiececommems said:
    With baseball if you open your mouth and say something stupid no HOF for you. If you tweeted something when you were 14-15 sensitiveity training for you. If you are Labron James in basketball and say something like that about a group of people NOTHING happens

    ----------WARNING, Political Rant Ahead!----------

    That's an enormous problem in our society as a whole, not just in sports.

    If you're on the left, you can say and do absolutely anything, and be applauded and honored for it. On the other hand, if you're on the right, and you say the exact same thing, you get strung up and fried!

    Steve

    Sad but true. Its ok to be stupid if you are on the left.

    IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED

  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 5,939 ✭✭✭

    One of the nice things about a SPORTS message board is we can NOT talk about politics - left or right. We don't need political rants here in my opinion. Just a thought.

    If Musina is in then Schilling should be in.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 3,331 ✭✭✭✭

    @SDSportsFan said:
    I do not understand how anyone in their right mind can objectively vote for Roy Halladay and Mike Mussina, and NOT vote for Curt Schilling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Steve

    It is because they are not objectively voting. and you are correct, Schilling deserves to be in

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 3,331 ✭✭✭✭

    @larryallen73 said:
    One of the nice things about a SPORTS message board is we can NOT talk about politics - left or right. We don't need political rants here in my opinion. Just a thought.

    If Musina is in then Schilling should be in.

    This is true. as tempting as it may be to make political commentary, it is a quick way to poof a thread and get yourself the ban hammer.

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 7,559 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @larryallen73 said:
    One of the nice things about a SPORTS message board is we can NOT talk about politics - left or right. We don't need political rants here in my opinion. Just a thought.

    If Musina is in then Schilling should be in.

    Musina should not be in . Pettitte should have gone in over him.

  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭

    Yep. This endorsement oughta push Schilling over the 75% mark next year.

  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 3,136 ✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @MCMLVTopps said:

    @perkdog said:
    Curt’s biggest problem is his mouth. I love the guy for what he did for Boston and definitely agree with some of the stuff he has said over the years but why anyone would care one way or another whathe has to say outside of baseball is beyond me.

    Gotta agree, Curt's mouth is really his achilles heel. I often wonder why "people in his position" open the pie hole and insert entire leg.

    Hey Paul...great game last night. I was on the edge of my seat. Brady is money when the chips are down with a short period of time left. Gotta give props to KC, they have a great team.
    Don't freeze up there!! B) Pretty nippy where I am, between Atlanta and Augusta, GA, 21 this AM...ccccold for us.

    Take care,
    Al

    3 degrees here AL! Nothing good about the weather here bud but that game last night makes it ok 👍. Hope all is well with you to my friend 🍻

    Paul...my brother, as you may recall, lives up in Loudon, NH...claims the wind chill one day was 43 below. I think this is a stretch, but he does have his own airport there and I suspect with the acreage that is treeless, for obvious reasons, the wind probably got up a good head of steam, whipping down all that open space. His airport does face kinda NE-SW, so maybe in his little slice of NH, it might have been 43 below. I feel for the critters that have to endure all that and still scrounge for food.

    The weird people in my retirement community had their annual Polar Plunge yesterday. Very lucky for them that the temp actually bumped 70, but the flag was just about parallel to the ground and I'm sure the outdoor pool water was in the 50s at best. Nonetheless, for some reason, about a dozen of so decided to jump in...and got out real fast! I would think at our age, that is a pretty good shock to the ticker...they had a firetruck outside waiting to rescue the idiot plungers.

    Looking forward to a nice Pats win in 10 days. Stay warm and well my friend. I still have vivid memories of walking to school in all that Krap, not to mention shoveling those pretty white things. B)

  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 4,494 ✭✭✭

    @1970s said:
    I have to question some of you talking about Curt's mouth. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just questioning something.

    Some don't like CK or Tebow bringing politics or religion into the game being played. Tebow and CK brought their "beliefs" onto the field.

    Curt did none of that. Whenever Curt spoke politics, he never did it during the game. He always did it afterwards.

    Doesn't Curt get a little slack being that he did it on his own free time, or is there some clause
    in a players contract that says they can't do it ?

    All good boys

    You are correct, in that Curt Schilling never made any political comments until well after his playing days were over, and he was out of baseball. Yes, he made some of his comments while he was employed by ESPN, but they were on his off-duty time, from his personal facebook/twitter/whatever, and totally unconnected from his time in the major leagues. They have absolutely no bearing whatsoever in whether or not he belongs in the Baseball Hall of Fame.

    All the writers (voters) who are holding his comments of the last couple of years against him, and not voting for him, are just showing their childishness, sanctimony and complete lack of objectivity.

    Steve

  • TabeTabe Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭

    @bronco2078 said:

    @larryallen73 said:
    One of the nice things about a SPORTS message board is we can NOT talk about politics - left or right. We don't need political rants here in my opinion. Just a thought.

    If Musina is in then Schilling should be in.

    Musina should not be in . Pettitte should have gone in over him.

    Pettite with his career 3.85 ERA and 10 seasons of 3.99 or higher? I'm not sold on Mussina but he was better than Pettitte.

  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 4,494 ✭✭✭

    @Tabe said:

    @bronco2078 said:

    @larryallen73 said:
    One of the nice things about a SPORTS message board is we can NOT talk about politics - left or right. We don't need political rants here in my opinion. Just a thought.

    If Musina is in then Schilling should be in.

    Musina should not be in . Pettitte should have gone in over him.

    Pettite with his career 3.85 ERA and 10 seasons of 3.99 or higher? I'm not sold on Mussina but he was better than Pettitte.

    Here is a statistic that I have found very interesting:

    Every pitcher who is eligible for the Hall of Fame, and who won at least 100 more games in his career, than he lost, is in the Hall of Fame.

    Andy Pettitte's lifetime W-L record is 256-153, meaning he and Roger Clemens are the only two eligible pitchers who are not in the Hall.

    R. L. Caruthers' lifetime record is 218-99, but he only pitched nine seasons, therefore, he's not eligible since there is a ten year minimum for Hall of Fame eligibility.

    Steve

  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 4,494 ✭✭✭

    Here's the list of all the pitchers who won at least 100 more games than they lost (Mike Mussina's also on it):

    Grover Alexander
    Mordecai Brown
    R. L. Caruthers
    John Clarkson
    Roger Clemens
    Bob Feller
    Whitey Ford
    Tom Glavine
    Lefty Grove
    Randy Johnson
    Walter Johnson
    Tim Keefe
    Greg Maddux
    Juan Marichal
    Pedro Martinez
    Christy Mathewson
    Joe McGinnity
    Mike Mussina
    Kid Nichols
    Jim Palmer
    Andy Pettitte
    Eddie Plank
    Hoss Radbourn
    Tom Seaver
    Warren Spahn
    Al Spalding
    Cy Young

    Steve

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 7,559 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tabe said:

    @bronco2078 said:

    @larryallen73 said:
    One of the nice things about a SPORTS message board is we can NOT talk about politics - left or right. We don't need political rants here in my opinion. Just a thought.

    If Musina is in then Schilling should be in.

    Musina should not be in . Pettitte should have gone in over him.

    Pettite with his career 3.85 ERA and 10 seasons of 3.99 or higher? I'm not sold on Mussina but he was better than Pettitte.

    playoffs mean more , which is the only reason schilling sould get in also

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 19,104 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SDSportsFan said:
    Here's the list of all the pitchers who won at least 100 more games than they lost (Mike Mussina's also on it):

    Grover Alexander
    Mordecai Brown
    R. L. Caruthers
    John Clarkson
    Roger Clemens
    Bob Feller
    Whitey Ford
    Tom Glavine
    Lefty Grove
    Randy Johnson
    Walter Johnson
    Tim Keefe
    Greg Maddux
    Juan Marichal
    Pedro Martinez
    Christy Mathewson
    Joe McGinnity
    Mike Mussina
    Kid Nichols
    Jim Palmer
    Andy Pettitte
    Eddie Plank
    Hoss Radbourn
    Tom Seaver
    Warren Spahn
    Al Spalding
    Cy Young

    Steve

    Good stuff. Never knew that. Thanks!

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  • TabeTabe Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭

    @bronco2078 said:

    @Tabe said:

    @bronco2078 said:

    @larryallen73 said:
    One of the nice things about a SPORTS message board is we can NOT talk about politics - left or right. We don't need political rants here in my opinion. Just a thought.

    If Musina is in then Schilling should be in.

    Musina should not be in . Pettitte should have gone in over him.

    Pettite with his career 3.85 ERA and 10 seasons of 3.99 or higher? I'm not sold on Mussina but he was better than Pettitte.

    playoffs mean more , which is the only reason schilling sould get in also

    Career 3.81 ERA in the playoffs. 0 complete games. 1.305 WHIP. All three stats worse than Greg Maddux (3.27, 2 CG, 1.242 WHIP) who is usually derided as underperforming in the playoffs.

    Don't put Pettite anywhere near Schilling as a playoff performer. Schilling - 2.23 ERA, 4 CG, 2 shutouts, 0.968 WHIP.

    Pettite was a non-exceptional performer in the regular season and a non-exceptional performer in the postseason. He just happened to play on a really, really good team.

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 7,559 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tabe said:

    @bronco2078 said:

    @Tabe said:

    @bronco2078 said:

    @larryallen73 said:
    One of the nice things about a SPORTS message board is we can NOT talk about politics - left or right. We don't need political rants here in my opinion. Just a thought.

    If Musina is in then Schilling should be in.

    Musina should not be in . Pettitte should have gone in over him.

    Pettite with his career 3.85 ERA and 10 seasons of 3.99 or higher? I'm not sold on Mussina but he was better than Pettitte.

    playoffs mean more , which is the only reason schilling sould get in also

    Career 3.81 ERA in the playoffs. 0 complete games. 1.305 WHIP. All three stats worse than Greg Maddux (3.27, 2 CG, 1.242 WHIP) who is usually derided as underperforming in the playoffs.

    Don't put Pettite anywhere near Schilling as a playoff performer. Schilling - 2.23 ERA, 4 CG, 2 shutouts, 0.968 WHIP.

    Pettite was a non-exceptional performer in the regular season and a non-exceptional performer in the postseason. He just happened to play on a really, really good team.

    Mussina is a nobody though , at least Pettitte was a guy that made you nervous to play against in the playoffs.

    Neither one is curt schilling but lets be honest if it wasn't for his playoff pitching nobody cares about Schilling either.

    People could actually vote for Kevin Youklis . I'm not saying even these BBWA idiots would vote that guy in but how is he even there to be voted for? What deranged process allows that?

  • JRR300JRR300 Posts: 462 ✭✭✭

    Well how could Placido Polanco actually get two votes this year??????????

    Just thinking out loud here, but I guess the days of the 300 win pitcher have long gone. Managing innings of starters, bullpen specialists and many other factors are contributing to starters getting consistently fewer wins every year. Is there a new threshold for starts to be considered? Is it 200 wins? Win %?

  • dallasactuarydallasactuary Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭

    @JRR300 said:
    Just thinking out loud here, but I guess the days of the 300 win pitcher have long gone. Managing innings of starters, bullpen specialists and many other factors are contributing to starters getting consistently fewer wins every year. Is there a new threshold for starts to be considered? Is it 200 wins? Win %?

    My suggestion is that the people who vote educate themselves about what it is that makes pitchers great (hint: wins and win% don't enter into it) and vote for the greatest pitchers. To dream, the impossible dream....

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  • JRR300JRR300 Posts: 462 ✭✭✭

    that really is a dream. Maybe we should let the people in this thread vote.....we have a better chance of getting it right. LOL

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 7,559 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JRR300 said:
    that really is a dream. Maybe we should let the people in this thread vote.....we have a better chance of getting it right. LOL

    If every poster in this thread votes this instant how many votes does Placido Domingo get?

  • JRR300JRR300 Posts: 462 ✭✭✭

    less than he got from the sportswriters

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 7,559 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JRR300 said:
    less than he got from the sportswriters

    I just noticed I wrote placido domingo :D I guess autocorrect never heard of the other guy. Its now offering placido poblano , :D

  • JRR300JRR300 Posts: 462 ✭✭✭

    I just thought you were an opera fan. LOL

  • TabeTabe Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭

    I just assumed he was being funny :)

    My proposal is something like this:

    If you vote for a guy who gets less than... 1%? 2%? or fail to vote for a guy who gets 95% of the vote, you lose your vote. Get rid of the guys voting for joke candidates (Jim DeShaies) because the guy was nice to them during their career and also the (before this year) guys saying no one deserves 100%.

  • JRR300JRR300 Posts: 462 ✭✭✭

    Easier said than done. These same guys have been doing this for years and years. I think they just keep getting replaced by their clones.

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 7,559 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 29, 2019 7:49PM

    what happens when the last worthless newspaper goes tits up? no voters? do guys in their 90's that retired decades earlier get to vote?
    I don't get the importance of BBWA members , I don't get the fact that there is a 4 letter acronym for these tired old hacks , who cared enough about them in the first place?

    Is the BBWA an actual union? :D :D :D

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 19,104 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah they should let us take over the process

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  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 4,494 ✭✭✭

    @bronco2078 said:
    what happens when the last worthless newspaper goes tits up? no voters? do guys in their 90's that retired decades earlier get to vote?
    I don't get the importance of BBWA members , I don't get the fact that there is a 4 letter acronym for these tired old hacks , who cared enough about them in the first place?

    Is the BBWA an actual union? :D :D :D

    It has bugged me for years, that just by being a member of the BBWAA for at least 10 years, you get to vote for admittance to the BB HOF; while men like Jack Buck, Ernie Harwell and Vin Scully don't get to vote, simply because they're not "writers".

    Steve

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 5,954 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One of the things he got in trouble for was for retweeting; “Only 5-10% of Muslims are extremists. In 1940, only 7% of Germans were Nazis. How’d that go?”

    If these percentages are correct, what's the problem with that?

    As a student of WWI and WWll, I think that is a fair question.

    As an old person, it saddens me that this country no longer tolerates peoples rights to their opinions. Being fired over a message on a social media site (like a couple of Curt's) seems wrong.

    I like to know where people stand. Now, we are supposed to say only politically correct "speak" or we are shunned and/or fired from our jobs?

    Looks to me like Schilling has the numbers to be in the HOF. I would vote for him.

    I don't really care if he is a liberal or a conservative and don't see how that is relevant.

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  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 7,559 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JoeBanzai said:
    One of the things he got in trouble for was for retweeting; “Only 5-10% of Muslims are extremists. In 1940, only 7% of Germans were Nazis. How’d that go?”

    If these percentages are correct, what's the problem with that?

    As a student of WWI and WWll, I think that is a fair question.

    As an old person, it saddens me that this country no longer tolerates peoples rights to their opinions. Being fired over a message on a social media site (like a couple of Curt's) seems wrong.

    I like to know where people stand. Now, we are supposed to say only politically correct "speak" or we are shunned and/or fired from our jobs?

    Looks to me like Schilling has the numbers to be in the HOF. I would vote for him.

    I don't really care if he is a liberal or a conservative and don't see how that is relevant.

    friggin wingnut Shaunessy from the globe actually said he refused to vote for Schilling because Curt called out other players for using PED's . Players that everyone thinks were using PED's mind you, some that admitted it.

    That is insane .

  • JRR300JRR300 Posts: 462 ✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    Yeah they should let us take over the process

    M

    I second the motion. All in favor?????

  • garnettstylegarnettstyle Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭

    @bronco2078 said:

    @JoeBanzai said:
    One of the things he got in trouble for was for retweeting; “Only 5-10% of Muslims are extremists. In 1940, only 7% of Germans were Nazis. How’d that go?”

    If these percentages are correct, what's the problem with that?

    As a student of WWI and WWll, I think that is a fair question.

    As an old person, it saddens me that this country no longer tolerates peoples rights to their opinions. Being fired over a message on a social media site (like a couple of Curt's) seems wrong.

    I like to know where people stand. Now, we are supposed to say only politically correct "speak" or we are shunned and/or fired from our jobs?

    Looks to me like Schilling has the numbers to be in the HOF. I would vote for him.

    I don't really care if he is a liberal or a conservative and don't see how that is relevant.

    friggin wingnut Shaunessy from the globe actually said he refused to vote for Schilling because Curt called out other players for using PED's . Players that everyone thinks were using PED's mind you, some that admitted it.

    That is insane .

    This is really whats sad about Hall of Fame's. The people who have a vote, can vote yes or no for any reason they want to. With no recourse. I know of a high school sports Hall of fame that is keeping a well deserving candidate out because most of the athletic council...(the people who make up the voters) don't like the sport that the athlete played. The guy was one of the best athletes in the schools history who rewrote the school record book. But none of the voters has any ties to the sport that he played. He even claims he has an email from the Athletic director stating he is being discriminated against, because of the sport that he participated in.

    IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 7,559 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @garnettstyle said:

    @bronco2078 said:

    @JoeBanzai said:
    One of the things he got in trouble for was for retweeting; “Only 5-10% of Muslims are extremists. In 1940, only 7% of Germans were Nazis. How’d that go?”

    If these percentages are correct, what's the problem with that?

    As a student of WWI and WWll, I think that is a fair question.

    As an old person, it saddens me that this country no longer tolerates peoples rights to their opinions. Being fired over a message on a social media site (like a couple of Curt's) seems wrong.

    I like to know where people stand. Now, we are supposed to say only politically correct "speak" or we are shunned and/or fired from our jobs?

    Looks to me like Schilling has the numbers to be in the HOF. I would vote for him.

    I don't really care if he is a liberal or a conservative and don't see how that is relevant.

    friggin wingnut Shaunessy from the globe actually said he refused to vote for Schilling because Curt called out other players for using PED's . Players that everyone thinks were using PED's mind you, some that admitted it.

    That is insane .

    This is really whats sad about Hall of Fame's. The people who have a vote, can vote yes or no for any reason they want to. With no recourse. I know of a high school sports Hall of fame that is keeping a well deserving candidate out because most of the athletic council...(the people who make up the voters) don't like the sport that the athlete played. The guy was one of the best athletes in the schools history who rewrote the school record book. But none of the voters has any ties to the sport that he played. He even claims he has an email from the Athletic director stating he is being discriminated against, because of the sport that he participated in.

    Deadwood . These people are like politicians all full of ideas early on then once they get in pathetic and useless. Clinging to scraps of power or notoriety attempting to put themselves on the same plane as the players.

    Having done nothing , achieved nothing they are somehow granted oversight over actual doers .

    Because I watch game on TV I know as much as player of 20 seasons ummmm no

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