PCGS slabbing Western Reserve Numismatic Club (WRNC) counterstamps
Zoins
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The WRNC counterstamps are now slabbed by PCGS. Just saw this current generation holder posted by @Tenhul1 in the BST. This is a Bastian Brothers piece which is a PCGS pop 1/0 now:
- Cert Verification: https://www.pcgs.com/cert/36226729
- CoinFacts: https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1941-medal-western-reserve-numismatic-club-ctsp-1936-cleveland-50c/683552
I have a few of the GMM Ron Landis pieces which I might try to send in.
Post any Western Reserve Numismatic Club pieces you have here!
Here's some more info on these from Verne Walrafen's GMMNut website:
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interesting to say the least. I have owned two 1941's graded MS66 by NGC and one 1971 they graded MS63. I currently own a raw 1941 probably grades AU55, perhaps I should have it encapsulated?? absent any other information I could just use the coin number from the OP slab.
i just searched on that coin number in CoinFacts and it is listed, thanks for the heads-up on this one. i suppose I'll submit this week.
I know you’re a fan of these so I’m glad this helps. It would be great to see TrueViews for these!
The CoinFacts link was in the OP but harder to read because it was directly under the Cert Verification link. I’ve added those labels so hopefully it’s easier to find now!
Cool! Hey @Zoins please check your messages.
Stephen is CONA President and gave a talk on the club's history last October.
This is from the club's October 2021 meeting:
Source: http://conacoinclub.com/cona-october-2021/
And after the presentation:
Source: http://conacoinclub.com/posts/
There's now a reference book for these by Stephen Petty and Gino Sanfilippo!
Gino is a coin dealer from Brecksville. Ohio.
This is probably a must have book for some of us that love these counterstamped coins!
These are really cool, I stumbled across a few during online searches last night.
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/publishedset.aspx?s=142753
https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/
I know a guy who has a few of these highly prized numismatic items.
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I know a few. The guy I know still needs to send his to PCGS!
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Most would come back "DETAILS, DAMAGED" . . . .
Z
Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
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Wow, that heraldic art medal looks like a proof. What does the reverse look like?
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
It's the 1000 consecutive meetings medal
Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?
Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?
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I never knew they existed, thanks.
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
I didn’t either. It’s amazing the things you learn on the forums!
I wonder if these are in the book!
This article appears to not be listed on the ANA website anymore, though it's the first result in a recent Google search. Not sure if the link broken in a reorg.
Here's the info from the Google cache:
This deck by Stephen Petty is amazing! I ran across it again because I was looking up when Bob passed away to see if he could have made the 2004 medal for 1000 consecutive meetings. He was born on Feb 17, 1919 and passed away on November 19, 1995, so these medals were done by someone else. The silver content on the reverse is also something I've never seen him do.
https://archive.org/details/CONA2016MarHeraldicArtMedals/mode/1up
Here are some really interesting things about Bob McNamara from the Stephen Petty's presentation.
The Bob McNamara Collection of Greek Coins was sold to the Smithsonian via Dr. Vladimir Clain-Stefanelli, the Smithsonian's first curator for numismatics.
He was President of the Orders and Medals Society of America from 1972 to 1974, where he's listed as James T. McNamara. Why "James T."? Was he a fan of James Tiberius Kirk?
https://www.omsa.org/history-omsa/
The thick and thin silver and then limited run of gold were due to a visit from the FBI!
Prices are certainly going up compared to what I'm used to seeing.
@ZoidMeister Great 1971 Mexico 20 Centavos! I love that one!
100th Anniversary WRNC
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Then there's the 75th / 100th Anniversary Double Counterstamp
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I love this one! I seriously considered picking it up!
"mondostuff" indicated that 5 of these were struck so I need to hope another becomes available! mondostuff seems to have a lot of these and I've picked up several from him over the years so I have to imagine that he's either part of the WRNC or knows someone who is.
Given that I posed the offer prices above, it's only fair to post the realized prices as well.
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I suppose that would decrease the population of 1921 Morgans with only a single 75th Anniversary counterstamp by 5, right?
Z
Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?
Over the weekend I mailed an Express submission to PCGS which included a 1936 Cleveland Commemorative Half-Dollar with a 1941 WRNC counterstamp and a 1921-S Morgan Dollar with a 1971 WRNC counterstamp. They are both borderline Mint State, I expect the 1941 to grade AU55 and the 1971 to grade AU58. When they grade and TrueView images post I'll add them to the thread.
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Awesome. Can’t wait to see the trueviews!
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
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Agreed.
Z
Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?
Very nice early ones @Maywood
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
Great to see these being slabbed by our hosts @Maywood! You have some great pieces! Thanks for sharing