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ANACS 1881 Morgan $ MS65 DMPL "Miller Plate Coin"

RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Currently in the Heritage auction for the end of January in Long Beach. Lot # 3679


"Ain't None of Them play like him (Bix Beiderbecke) Yet."
Louis Armstrong

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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice !!! :)

    Timbuk3
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    TiborTibor Posts: 3,241 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Odd how the current auction description states that it does not
    match up with the plate coin in the book. :o

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    skier07skier07 Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is a Miller plate coin?

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    FishproFishpro Posts: 379 ✭✭✭

    Ask Wayne Miller he lives in Montana.

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    RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, it is odd that they think the coin isn't the one in the Miller book. I assume you have to have some proof of provenance when you submit a coin to the third party grader. Oh, a plate coin, by the way, indicates one that was used to illustrate an item in a book. I've written Mr. Miller with some questions, hoping to solve that mystery. The bottom line is the coin is a nice one.

    "Ain't None of Them play like him (Bix Beiderbecke) Yet."
    Louis Armstrong
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    TiborTibor Posts: 3,241 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wayne Miller wrote two books on Morgan and Peace silver dollars.
    In the books he pictured many of his coins from his collection. When
    he decided to sell his collection it was one of the top 2-3 collections
    of dollars at the time. A plate coin is a coin that belonged to Wayne
    or a top collector and was pictured in one of his books.

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    blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When I am home on Tuesday I will compare the Miller book to this coin. The coins also came with a letter from Steve Ivey I believe, does the coin come with that?

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    RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nothing from Steve Ivey came with the coin, just the description on the holder.

    "Ain't None of Them play like him (Bix Beiderbecke) Yet."
    Louis Armstrong
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    blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The letters I am sure are very rare. I have seen 2 of them but the owner would not like me sharing them here. It is on Steve Ivey letterhead, signed by Wayne Miller and then notarized below. It states the coin date and lot in the sale. They are dated 1978.

    For a DMPL dork like me they are real cool stuff.

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    blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will add the coins that go with the letters are PCGS graded, no note on the holders about the provenance.

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    morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice piece plate coin or not.

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    hickoryridgehickoryridge Posts: 226 ✭✭✭

    appears to be a match

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    RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is a nice coin and I have enjoyed owning it for 6 years.

    "Ain't None of Them play like him (Bix Beiderbecke) Yet."
    Louis Armstrong
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    RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's a better representation of the reverse.

    "Ain't None of Them play like him (Bix Beiderbecke) Yet."
    Louis Armstrong
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    RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will have the original auction catalog from the sale of Wayne Millers dollars (and the Hoagy Carmichael collection a dear friend of Bix Beiderbecke) soon. I wonder now if this 1881 was pictured there and someone considered it to be a plate coin as a result?

    "Ain't None of Them play like him (Bix Beiderbecke) Yet."
    Louis Armstrong
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    RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have the 1986 catalog now, but the photo's in that catalog make all the dollars look clean cheeked and mark free. The written description fits the coin I have for sale and must assume the "plate coin" designation came from it's appearance in this catalog.

    "Ain't None of Them play like him (Bix Beiderbecke) Yet."
    Louis Armstrong
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    RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I found a small spot under the eagles right wing on the auction catalog photo and this matches the spot on the 1881 in the Heritage auction. So it's a plate coin from the Wayne Miller sale in 1986.

    "Ain't None of Them play like him (Bix Beiderbecke) Yet."
    Louis Armstrong
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    ProofmorganProofmorgan Posts: 715 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 26, 2019 5:16AM

    Heritage updated the description to say it is the plate coin.....nice!

    Collector of Original Early Gold with beginnings in Proof Morgan collecting.
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    HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blu62vette said:
    The letters I am sure are very rare. I have seen 2 of them but the owner would not like me sharing them here. It is on Steve Ivey letterhead, signed by Wayne Miller and then notarized below. It states the coin date and lot in the sale. They are dated 1978.

    For a DMPL dork like me they are real cool stuff.



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