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Not the 1827 O-127 half
OKbustchaser
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/362522052890?ul_noapp=true
I have notified the seller that this is actually the O-106, not the claimed O-127. Same obverse die, but a different reverse die. I've often seen this particular mistake made as the clash at the ear of Liberty is a pickup point. Although it always appears on the 127 it also appears on several later stage 106s.
I have never dealt with the seller Macvanderstein and am making no value judgment. He very easily can simply be wrong and will eventually correct his listing. Just didn't want anyone mistakenly bidding on the coin as the opening bid is twice what it is worth...and half what it would go for if it were the 127.
Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
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I'm certain he's not out to misrepresent. The problem may be he has quite a few folks working for him.
OKbustchaser, I had the same experience but a different reputable dealer just a couple months ago. It was priced fairly. Not high, not low. It was disappointing when I took a good look to find it was not the O.127 but the O.106...
It didn’t look as pretty as it did when I was looking at it through my O.127 glasses. I was no longer as forgiving of its shortcomings. So I packed her up & sent her out for another trip across the United States back to where she came from...
Looks like the listing was pulled.
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
Excellent example of how careful you need to be attributing bust halves.
Below are the two reverses (106 & 127) that share the same obverse die. The two are very alike but differences can be seen. Some are highlighted in red. Others can be seen in the shield...the O.106 has numerous vertical stripes that extend into the horizontal bars above.
Lance.
The O-106/O-127 is an easy one to get backwards. The shield lines on both have very similar “over lines” as well. It’s really just one shield line that that differentiates the two.
Nice work.
Another fairly quick comparison is to look at how the left stand of the N in UNUM relates to the F above in OF.
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
Thanks for posting the pics - really helps a newbie like me!
Good point. More similarities to throw you off. Below are some distinctions.
Lance.
You guys must be nuts.
Yea, they're nuts, but no other place I'd rather be than here to learn from.
Thanks for the great pictures illustrating the key differences.
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
Figures somebody takes me serious.
The 106/127 reverses aren't even close to being similar. The 50c is spaced a lot closer on the O-127 and the dentil alignments and scroll alignments are different. Do I need to do a book on CBH's too?
Early American Copper, Bust and Seated.
LOL ... those of us in the 'nut club' get it.
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
A year later...Macvanderstein is still trying to sell the coin as an O-127. He lists it periodically. Maybe if someone else tells him instead of me.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1827-CAPPED-BUST-HALF-DOLLAR-O-127-RARE-VERY-FINE-EXTRA-FINE-H4625/362884491441?hash=item547d99e8b1:g:wAsAAOSwUrxeIRxl
I sent him a personalized message through ebay about it. Don't know if he will get it as I think he has around 30 employees. But it should raise an eyebrow or 2!
Let's see if we can nuke his auction. Stay tuned...
Lance.
were in the right club
LOL, yes they are... NUmismaTiSts.
Also, the few nuts I recognize in this thread always answered my questions through the years.
To make it easier to see the coin, a couple screen captures:
Might want to do the reverse since that is the side that differs on the two marriages.
Oops double selected the same pic.
It's trivial to edit a post. FYI.
Ditto