1839 Deep Cameo Proof Victoria Halfcrowns - I'm Not Getting The PCGS Grading
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GTGs - I know, obverse only (I can assure you the reverses are at least as nice). The darker one is from an auction catalog, so sorry about that difference.
Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
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Very nice, thanks for sharing !!!
OK, well not a lot of interest but PCGS has them as follows:
1st Proof Deep Cameo 67+
2nd Proof Deep Cameo 63(+)
Having seen them, absolutely no way. The second is the equal if not superior to the first, but IMO would drop the first to a 65DC and raise the second to a 65+DC.
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IMHO I like the second one a lot more, the doubling in the 4th digit of the date is a bonus.
The second one is photographed under lighting that hides hairlines, while the first is photographed under contrasted lighting that worsens the look of any flaws on the surface. The second picture is also a TrueView so it was shot raw, while the first is presumably shot in the slab and there may be marks on the surface of the slab that appear to be on the coin in the photo. Without seeing both in hand I don't think I would be personally be able to make an accurate guess.
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Second in hand is flawless with the exception of the mini toning spots, and under differing lights and magnification, the first I have only the picture. I have seen quite a few 1839s of the various proofs and even the currency versions (which are exceedingly rare), and this is the best I've seen.
One example of a "hairline" is seen on the second coin is at the mid-portion of the neck and is longitudinal - this is a die prep line. They are from different dies and the first may be slightly better struck, not withstanding that difference. The second likely has a better cameo effect and appears to have more of a medallic field with slightly more contouring and texture, even counting for exposure differences.
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It just depends on hairlines for the second coin, since there are no marks visible that would warrant a 63.
Hmm, maybe so but less than the first. I think that is cabinet friction on the most prominent hair. The fields appear much cleaner than the first. I don't really see the hairlines - look at Vick's neck in second - that is die prep and in relief as an example. I saved out a photo somewhere on the first.
Both of these graded by PCGS, the first some years before the second.
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I found a couple of old pictures post slabbing on the second coin, but these were on an older iPhone
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The perspec plastic had rub from 9-12 o'clock and across field toward 4 o'clock (all obverse).
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