How about combining Registries?

braddick

Looking at the Modern 1950- Date Registry got me to thinking. This Registry allows both the inclusion of Mint State coins and Proof coins. There are two other Registeries that also allow collectors to just have Mint State coins and another that only allows Proof coinage. The cool deal here is there are three options for collecting.
Now, how about combining some of the series Mint State and Proof Registeries? For example, those working on a Mint State and a separate Proof Registry of the Ike dollars or the Kennedy halves? These coins are considered only one set each with the various coin albums. Why not one Registry that combines the two sets? Like the 50- date Registry this would allow the collector to choose between three options instead of just two. Ideas?

gary

Let's make it fair for the newbee's and say each coin can only be entered in one set.If that were to happen the newbee's would avoid the sets with 20 pf70's or coins like 1964 AH pf68DC

braddick

I don't mean combining the Ikes and the Kennedies- I was using them as examples of series collected right now either in Mint State or Proof. What I meant was, like the Modern Registeries, there would be an option to combine, for example, the Mint State Ike and the Proof Ike sets into one Registery.

keithdagen

Pat,

Kind of like the Dansco albums that have the slots for the proof coins as well as the MS?

keets

i think that the combined set is a little ridiculous because it puts too much emphasis on the proof coins due to the fact that you can score higher that way. if you look at the sets, they are almost exclusively proofs. it's a joke. there is already a proof modern set. why have two. the sets you propose would be nothing but a repeat of the existing sets in proof. by the competitive nature of the registry sets, it can be no other way. sure, there would be exceptions. but proofs will rule the day.

al h.

braddick

Keets- No. What I'm talking about is a Registry that requires ALL the coins in the series. Take the Kennedies. This complete Registry would require all the Mint State coins and all the Proof coins. It wouldn't award more points for the Proof coins at all.

Keith- Right. Just like the Dansco albums. That is what gave me the idea. It isn't like a Proof coin REPLACES the Kennedy. Each coin, like the 1964 in the Kennedy set would require the 1964-P; 64-D (in Unc), and 64 Proof.

Monstavet

That is a lot of Kennedyds! 120 or so coins!

keets

braddick----the way you propose it makes more sense than how the third set in the moderns is now. they probably intended something like that and never assumed it would turn out as it has, another proof set. it might be viewed by some for certain series as too large af a collection like monstavet said. others, russ comes to mind, have no interest in MS, only collect PR. more sets is better up to a point. but i think there's such a thing as overkill and your idea may be approaching it. larger sets are much the same, too big of an undertaking, and i think PCGS realizes that. it's probably why they split the sets with long date runs into two or create the short sets. i think it promotes more involvement because, good or bad, the factor of competition always works it way into the mix. next idea, pat!!!

al h.

CarlWohlforth

I wonder how many folks collect both MS and Proof coins in a series by date?

I wouldn't participate in any of those.

There doens't seem to be as much updating in the type sets nor as much chatter about progress in the type set. Perhaps this is due to the proliferation of sets? The MS guys can't complain about us Proof guys having an unfair edge anymore I would reduce the numbers of sets.

braddick

Keets- I agree the Kennedy complete set would be a daunting task (but then again, no one requires someone to Registry ANY set!)- but what about the Sacawagea? I just think ONE Registry that covers both the proofs and mint state coins under one umbrella would be an attractive Registry.
Maybe PCGS could start out with the smaller sets like the Sacawagea and maybe the SBA's. Then, the Ikes (only 32 coins total- both MS and PR) before moving into other arenas.
Just an idea, and I'll try (smoke coming out of my ears) to come up with others!

Russ

<< <i>Take the Kennedies. This complete Registry would require all the Mint State coins and all the Proof coins. >>



And what about those of us who have no desire, and never will, to collect the business strikes in a particular series?

Russ, NCNE

braddick

Russ- Then you would simply continue collecting the way your are currently and participating in the Proof Registry as you are also doing now. I'm not suggesting this third Registry would scratch yours. No- just an alternative Registry for those who DO like to collect the FULL series, both business strikes and the proofs. Nothing more and nothing less.

GQ

Braddick....For the sake of conversation I like the idea. If you do not want to collect the full set just don't go there. I think the combined set would appeal to collectors of just one series with no effect at all to the present sets.

Keep enjoying your coins......

keets

it would be a good approach for the sac's and sba's. those sets are TOO small if you consider just MS or proof, though for a guy like me they present the chance of actually reaching 100%!!