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jeanniegirl

What does everyone do with cards that have been returned as altered, trimmed, fake autograph etc.

PROMETHIUS88

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CW

Depending on a few factors, it can be worth the time to resubmit a card that is returned as "trimmed" (N1) or not meeting the "minimum size requirement" (N6). Some of the factors to consider would be:

1. the value of the card
2. if the card seems to measure full size, it would be worth a resubmit
3. the trustworthiness or reputation of the seller
4. if you actually pulled the card from the pack yourself

So if you bought a fairly high value card from a reputable seller and it seems to measure full size, I would definitely try another submission on that card if it was returned the first time as trimmed.

Some issues also had slight variations in size and were distributed that way from the factory. In these cases PSA might err on the side of caution and give you the N6 for not meeting minimum size requirement. Some collectors have resubmitted such cards and received grades on the 2nd or 3rd attempt.

Stone193

Hiya Jeanie

If the card has value and is sent back as altered/trimmed e.g.

If it has enough value? Why not have it placed in a holder as "authentic" since it still could have some nice value.

Fake cards?

I'd "BALROG" them.

On other things like undersized, miscut e.g.? I like what Chuck aka CW is saying.

PatsGuy5000

I had a 1971 black bordered Topps baseball card returned “altered”, it had a bit of “black” marker on the corner - and a 2000 Tom Brady Rookie returned “minimum size” - threw out the 1971 and sold the Brady on EBay.

jeanniegirl

Thanks guys...Purchased all these cards in 1988 and 89...1956 T Jackie Robinson came back...Trimmed...1962 T Mickey Mantle..Colorized….looks like the border had some varnish or shellac on the borders...1965 T Roberto Clemente...came back as card looks like its been cleaned??

daltex

@Rttrffg2012 said:
I graded a few of the 73s. A few came back 8 and 9 but one came back min size.

It was the sharpest of the bunch: edges, centering, and color were perfect. I was convinced it was not tampered with but cut incorrectly at the topps factory.

Isn't that what Min Size means?

markj111

@Rttrffg2012 said:
I bought a collection of 70s cards from an older man who had hardly touched them in decades. I bought the collection of mostly 80s junk and one shoebox of early 70s.

I graded a few of the 73s. A few came back 8 and 9 but one came back min size.

It was the sharpest of the bunch: edges, centering, and color were perfect. I was convinced it was not tampered with but cut incorrectly at the topps factory.

I put it on eBay without disclosing min size req and sold the card for what a raw mint copy sells for.

I’m fine with my decision as I think the card was mint and cut well. PSA’s opinion is worth millions more than my opinion but it is just an opinion

I consider that unethical. Would never buy from you.

Tere1071

I recently sold a 66 Topps Clemente which I had purchased back in 2012 without giving it the once over. It was returned to me with evidence that it wasn't original, having failed the "light test." I accepted the card back and sure enough the light penetrated through the card. No way will I ever sell the card again. What I will do it to put it on the wall by my desk since Clemente is a hero and as a reminder to go over what I purchase to make sure it is authentic.