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Pack grades just popped...

RookieWaxRookieWax Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭
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took nearly 4 months...but it was worth the wait.

Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 N5: ALTERED STOCK 1973 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
2 1 N9: NOT GRADED Loose Gum Card
3 1 41380224 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1973 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
4 1 41380225 MINT 9 1972 Topps Baseball Cello Pack Cello Pack Pack
5 1 41380226 MINT 9 1972 Topps Baseball Cello Pack Cello Pack Pack
6 1 41380227 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1978 Topps Football Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
7 1 41380228 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1978 Topps Football Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
8 1 41380229 NEAR MINT 7 1978 Topps Football Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
9 1 41380230 NEAR MINT 7 1978 Topps Football Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
10 1 41380231 NEAR MINT 7 1978 Topps Football Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
11 1 41380232 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
12 1 41380233 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
13 1 41380234 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
14 1 41380235 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
15 1 41380236 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
16 1 41380237 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
17 1 41380238 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
18 1 41380239 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
19 1 41380240 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
20 1 41380241 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
21 1 41380242 MINT 9 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
22 1 41380243 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
23 1 41380244 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
24 1 41380245 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
25 1 41380246 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
26 1 41380247 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
27 1 41380248 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
28 1 41380249 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
29 1 41380250 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
30 1 41380251 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
31 1 41380252 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
32 1 41380253 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
33 1 41380254 NEAR MINT 7 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
34 1 41380255 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
35 1 41380256 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
36 1 41380257 MINT 9 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
37 1 41380258 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
38 1 41380259 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
39 1 41380260 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
40 1 41380261 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
41 1 41380262 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
42 1 41380263 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
43 1 41380264 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Baseball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack

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    West22West22 Posts: 225 ✭✭✭

    I know what is in those '90 Topps packs :) Congrats on the grades.

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    waxman2745waxman2745 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭

    Congrats on the high grades! What does "altered stock" mean? Also, do those 90 packs have stars on top? I think PSA will put on the label if a star is showing.

    Adam
    buying O-Pee-Chee (OPC) baseball
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    LargentcollectorLargentcollector Posts: 760 ✭✭✭

    @waxman2745 said:
    Congrats on the high grades! What does "altered stock" mean? Also, do those 90 packs have stars on top? I think PSA will put on the label if a star is showing.

    I think those are NNOF packs.


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    Tim
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    waxman2745waxman2745 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭

    @Largentcollector said:

    @waxman2745 said:
    Congrats on the high grades! What does "altered stock" mean? Also, do those 90 packs have stars on top? I think PSA will put on the label if a star is showing.

    I think those are NNOF packs.

    Wow awesome! B) Congrats!

    Adam
    buying O-Pee-Chee (OPC) baseball
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    MantleFan23MantleFan23 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭✭

    Awesome sub!! The 1972 topps cellos in 9 were a great hit!

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    FrozencaribouFrozencaribou Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2018 8:45AM

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    Kep13Kep13 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭

    I wonder why almost all of those 1990 packs only graded 8? Would seem at least one would get a 10, and that there would be plenty of nines...what was it that caused all of the packs to only get an 8, if you know off hand?

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    RookieWaxRookieWax Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭

    @Kep13 said:
    I wonder why almost all of those 1990 packs only graded 8? Would seem at least one would get a 10, and that there would be plenty of nines...what was it that caused all of the packs to only get an 8, if you know off hand?

    Getting a 9 or 10 on any wax pack is very tough. In my experiences, any touch of corner wear can knock it down to an 8.

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    Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2018 4:31PM

    I missed out on the info on the NNOF packs?

    I'm assuming like other "error" cases - some did get thru?

    Congratulations on those 72T cellos!

    Mike
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    saraceno21saraceno21 Posts: 49 ✭✭

    How do we know these are NNOF packs?

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    HighGradeLegendsHighGradeLegends Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭✭

    @saraceno21 said:
    How do we know these are NNOF packs?

    Explain to the uneducated (me) please...

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    West22West22 Posts: 225 ✭✭✭

    @Stone193 said:
    I missed out on the info on the NNOF packs?

    I'm assuming like other "error" cases - some did get thru?

    Congratulations on those 72T cellos!

    The NNOF was mostly pulled from grocery/retail wax though there were documented pulls in hobby wax (the Griffey box). Most people will tell you it came from an early print run, or even the first print run. This fact has never been definitively proven as far as I can tell. I've tried to track down people who pulled the NNOF and find out when exactly they bought the pack, but we're talking 28 years ago and I haven't been able to narrow it down.

    @saraceno21 said:
    How do we know these are NNOF packs?

    Read this for background on that box he's talking about:

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/899179/what-would-a-1990-topps-error-wax-box-sell-for/p1

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    RookieWaxRookieWax Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭

    Since part of this thread was wiped out, I'll repost this information:

    In 2013, I bought two of the green 1990 Topps wax boxes (with Griffey pictured on top) from a guy. I opened all of the packs in one of the boxes and pulled a NNOF Thomas and about 6 of the other known blackless error cards. All of the orange sheet cards I pulled that would have been part of the affected blackless streak, were indeed the blackless error versions.

    I then started opening packs from the second box. In the first few packs, I pulled a Kenny Rogers cards with a slanted blue print line across the front (that same blue slanted line appears across the front of all the Kevin Tapani blackless errors I have). I also then pulled one of the blackless errors (I believe it was a Joe Magrane All Star card)). At that point, I stopped opening the packs and put that box with the remaining packs away until this past summer...when I decided to send the 33 remaining packs in to PSA to be graded.

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    craig44craig44 Posts: 10,524 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the great NNOF thread has all of this info in it. Congrats RookieWax on the grades. Did PSA make any sort of notation on the flip about the provenance of the 1990 packs?

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

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    RookieWaxRookieWax Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    the great NNOF thread has all of this info in it. Congrats RookieWax on the grades. Did PSA make any sort of notation on the flip about the provenance of the 1990 packs?

    No....I didn't share any information about the packs when I sent them in. Even if I did though, it's doubtful they would have done anything like that.

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    mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats on the 72 cellos!

    mint_only_pls
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    Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @West22 said:

    @Stone193 said:
    I missed out on the info on the NNOF packs?

    I'm assuming like other "error" cases - some did get thru?

    Congratulations on those 72T cellos!

    The NNOF was mostly pulled from grocery/retail wax though there were documented pulls in hobby wax (the Griffey box). Most people will tell you it came from an early print run, or even the first print run. This fact has never been definitively proven as far as I can tell. I've tried to track down people who pulled the NNOF and find out when exactly they bought the pack, but we're talking 28 years ago and I haven't been able to narrow it down.

    @saraceno21 said:
    How do we know these are NNOF packs?

    Read this for background on that box he's talking about:

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/899179/what-would-a-1990-topps-error-wax-box-sell-for/p1

    Good stuff - thanx!

    Mike
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