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3 X Loser Ebay / Paypal

mustangmanbobmustangmanbob Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

So I sell a $50 item on ebay, get paid via paypal, and ship to the address on file.

All Good.

Last night, a case is opened against me on ebay, claiming non receipt. "Why did you ship to Delaware, I live in Seattle?

I screen copy order details (Delaware address) and Paypal Address of Record (Delaware) and send it in. Ebay quickly finds in my favor.

A short time after the ebay case is closed, the case is opened in Paypal, same issue, non receipt.

I recopy over all the information from ebay, and add on the tracking information right out of paypal.

A few hours later, paypal rules in my favor: I followed all the required actions.

20 minutes after that, Paypal Case opened, stating the account was hacked.

An hour later, case closed, paypal ruled in my favor.

What a hassle.

Thank goodness for screen copy, detailed records in paypal and ebay.

The found in the sellers favor 3 times in 12 hours. Is this a record?

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 24,076 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What a headache! :s

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 19, 2018 9:36AM

    @JBK said:
    Where do you sellers with these bad experiences find these people? ;)

    Not a bad experience as PayPal covered him.

  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,780 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry for the headache. I never want to see this record broken. My Lord!

    Dave

    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is becoming common unfortunately.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Smudge said:
    This is becoming common unfortunately.

    In fact, it is quite uncommon.

    Do you really want to hear about all of the positive transactions that I have on ebay every week, week after week, year after year?

  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Errors...you don't count...the stuff you sell is too complicated to attract the wackos (other than the normal error collectors). :)

    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC
  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @Smudge said:
    This is becoming common unfortunately.

    In fact, it is quite uncommon.

    Do you really want to hear about all of the positive transactions that I have on ebay every week, week after week, year after year?

    You are correct percentage wise, but the same thing happened to my wife on a non coin transaction. The person at PayPal told her that they were seeing more of this sort of thing.

  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wondering why they would bother trying for a $50 coin after a supposed hacked account. Either very young or very stupid.

    "May the silver waves that bear you heavenward be filled with love’s whisperings"

    "A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 37,805 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mustangmanbob said:
    So I sell a $50 item on ebay, get paid via paypal, and ship to the address on file.

    They find us.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @shorecoll said:
    Errors...you don't count...the stuff you sell is too complicated to attract the wackos (other than the normal error collectors). :)

    Kind of true. I am glad I do not sell gold bullion. I get calls asking if I have gold bullion and can tell by the call that I would be scammed if I dealt with them.

    I have had a few fraud cases that Paypal has covered me on.

    Most error collectors are kinda whacked, but honest in my experiences.

    Another Point to remember is that most major error coins are unique and most have clear photography of such coins. Major error coins are a thin market and most everyone knows everyone. Hard to resell stolen merchandise with detailed photos of the coins. Most normal dealers will not pay up for such coins as well.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 37,805 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 19, 2018 10:14AM

    @shorecoll said:
    Errors...you don't count...the stuff you sell is too complicated to attract the wackos (other than the normal error collectors). :)

    I do over 3000 transactions per year on eBay. Most of them are inexpensive coins and stamps (under $10). I have 2 or 3 problems per year, most of them minor.

    @ErrorsOnCoins is correct, these things are not common. They happen, but quite rarely.

    The same is true of delivery issues. I ship 3000+ packages around the globe, almost all uninsured. I lose...well, THEY lose a couple per year, usually overseas without tracking.

    But no one, obviously, posts the problem free examples.

    Here ya go (the 13 in September without carrier scans were dropped of this morning:

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 37,805 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 19, 2018 10:15AM

    Oh, and for all the people who have been mad/worried/concerned/hysterical about eBay free returns, I've been running with 30 day free returns since late April. And, ironically, the 2 jewelry returns were the same sapphire necklace. Thank God that ugly thing is gone :

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  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @JBK said:
    Where do you sellers with these bad experiences find these people? ;)

    Not a bad experience as PayPal covered him.

    Except for the time wasted likely exceeded $50.

  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yikes, such hassles !!! :s

    Timbuk3
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,709 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's hard to win if one is a loser. Give them credit for trying. Losers !

  • SiriusBlackSiriusBlack Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    These are the cases where I don't even understand why cases get opened. PayPal and eBay both say DO NOT SHIP to any address other than verified. They can see what address is in their own systems. Why do they even need to bother you. Pretty simple. He shipped to this address because that was the address that is on file for this account. They didn't need to involve you at all.

    Collector of randomness. Photographer at PCGS. Lover of Harry Potter.

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