Shill bidding at its finest....
Dpeck100
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I was bidding on a nice 2004 Playoff Honors Brock Lesnar numbered to 425 version as I don't have a nice copy. I noticed early on something was awry after I got topped by a zero feedback bidder with 100% of their bids coming from this small seller.
I entered my my max and what I would gladly pay in a BIN and left it be. With a little time to go I was topped again and bowed out. This is where sellers that try these shenanigans hurt themselves as I would have increased my bid further but because of their foul play I let the item go. It ended at $52 to a real bidder and hopefully they are pleased with the card.
Check out this activity.
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Ha! Didn't bother trying to conceal
Not all of the items above are from the auctions that were shilled. Several of the five are in the sellers feedback. Just used the snipping tool on my work computer since you can no longer post an EBAY link without it redirecting you. I just wanted to post the wide variety of items the seller has sold and if you go through their feedback you can see the other items.
Potentially the most blatant I have ever seen.
how do I see the bidders behavior with a particular seller?
Just click on the bidders ID in any auction and you will see the information I posted for that specific seller.
This is an item I am bidding on.
You have to be careful when evaluating because in the case above I haven't bid on much and I started a new set so this particular seller has had some of the PSA 10's listed and therefore the bid percentage looks high.
The most glaringly obvious way to tell is a bidder with tons of items bid on and a huge percentage with one seller and bid retractions.
Next would be an example like I posted where the person is bidding on only one sellers items and they are all over the map in the categories bid on. Had they listed a bunch of cards from a specific genre it would be some what debatable if shilling is taking place but not here!
How does that song go? "You ain't seen nothin' yet. Na,na, na, na, na, na, na you ain't seen nothin' yet"
Triple stacked bid from a zero feedback account:
https://ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/401578069559?item=401578069559&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565
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Greg Maddux #1 Master SetGreg Maddux #2 Basic Set
This is a really strange one.
I get the feeling this card is very hard to locate and it is possible a person wanted to appear as a shill and actually win. Obviously the strong bids out of the gate double stacked and the snipe bid are very suspect from a zero feedback bidder.
The under bidder who placed what PWCC calls string bids looks suspect too with six items bid on with the same seller and a 92% percentage. Could also be someone trying to peck away at the opening bid and finally gave up. Too small a number and PWCC can legitimately have people with this scenario.
You will have your answer very soon because as soon as you pay PWCC leaves automatic feedback.
Hey what can I say I have strange tastes in what I like to collect.
Sucks that the seller screwed you over doing this but at least they screwed themselves over also since you are a pretty serious collector.
The Maddux card was paid for.