What would you do?
maddux69
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While at the National today and browsing a table, the guy next to me was inquiring about some raw Greyzky rookies, one Topps and one OPC. Nothing transpired and the guy left. I am always on the lookout for Gretzky OPC(think I am up to 4 now) and right off the bat I could see that the OPC was fake. The dealer then said that it was sheet cut and PSA wouldn’t grade it and while looking at the Topps that he said it was minsize. I am not adept in spotting Topps fakes so I quickly gave them back. I turned around and tried to spot the guy looking before to be sure that he knew one was a fake. Should I have told the dealer that it was fake? The way he quickly said that neither would grade out said to me that he knew it was fake too and possibly tried to get them graded. I hope that no one falls into that trap, but since there is no oversight and anyone can sell what they see fit makes it quite the dilemma. Thinking of stopping back tomorrow and educating the dealer then seeing where it goes.
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My guess is he is plenty educated and knows it is fake.
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I agree. His response pretty much revealed that fact. Dealers like him we don't need.
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The dealer contracts that exhibitors sign addresses this issue regarding fake, counterfeit, items in violation of copyright etc. You probably couldn't get too far with it, but if you were more comfortable bringing it up to the promoter.
https://fox8.com/2018/08/02/vendor-accused-of-trying-to-sell-phony-autographs-at-popular-sports-convention-in-cleveland/
My two cents on how to handle is ask a question about why you think its fake, like "Hey, I thought all the OPC Gretzkys had the yellow print dot on the shoulder?". How the guy reacts will tell you an awful lot about whether he is covering up or just ignorant. If you conclude hes trying to con someone, either tell the promoter as @phelda suggests, or let every hockey collector you talk to know. Word will get out.
Went first thing and took a look again. Again he prefaced the cards as he got them out of the case. I took a look and told him that OPC gretzkys are known to have the yellow blob. He then says he knows it’s real and SGC has even verified. I’m thinking if they have looked at it why isn’t it in a holder with an authentic grade. Not much more I could do, there was no getting across that guy.
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The dealer probably found out it's fake after he paid for it and is trying to recoup some money.
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It's fake (ALL legit OPC Gretzky rookies have the yellow dot on the left shoulder) and unless he's selling it as a reprint he should be threatened with having his table revoked and he being banned from the show. What's the difference, after all, between this and the guy who was busted the other day for trying to sell the fake autographs?
Guy has to know it’s fake, it would be in some companies holder otherwise. If he’s intentionally selling a fake they should have tossed him from the show