Sneaky 10s

ReggieCleveland

I was just going through the pop report (yes, I "go through" the pop report because my nerdness goes to 11) and I saw the numbers for the regular, non-glossy, 1987 Fleer Update Mark McGwire sat at pop 253 out of 7,473, or 3.3%. That's low. That's actually really low. I consider under 5% for modern cards to be the starting point for the conversation but 3.3% over that sample size is a solid condition sensitive. There aren't a lot of 80s rookies under 3.5%. And sure enough, there are more 8s than there are 9s.

Anyone else know of a card that is sneaky tough?

Arthur

• I am not selling '87 FU McGwires

bobsbbcards

Can I buy some of your hoard of ‘87 FU McGwires for a large amount of money?

olb31

I do the same thing you do, but I also review whether a card is simply hard to find centered or without a flaw that may be common to a card, that may keep someone from submitting. For example, the 1987 OPC Barry Bonds doesn't have a ton that has been graded, but it's not being graded much because of the horrific centering for this card. Sounds like the McGwire you speak of, appears mint to the naked eye to have so many of them graded. This card obviously doesn't sell for hundreds of dollars. Sounds to me that PSA grades this card a little harder than most of the 1987 cards for an unknown reason.

ReggieCleveland

Bob, I can cut you in on the ground floor but it's going to cost you BIG TIME.

@olb31 said:
I do the same thing you do, but I also review whether a card is simply hard to find centered or without a flaw that may be common to a card, that may keep someone from submitting. For example, the 1987 OPC Barry Bonds doesn't have a ton that has been graded, but it's not being graded much because of the horrific centering for this card. Sounds like the McGwire you speak of, appears mint to the naked eye to have so many of them graded. This card obviously doesn't sell for hundreds of dollars. Sounds to me that PSA grades this card a little harder than most of the 1987 cards for an unknown reason.

That's an interesting point. Of course, I think McGwire was king when PSA launched and I believe all of his rookie era cards received massive submissions both from collectors and from television retailers looking to swindle the late-night audience. I'm not sure it's a case of people thinking they had a 10 as it is people subbing all things McGwire, which is why there are more 8s than 9s.

The 1988 Topps Glossy Rookies population is an absolute comedy -- 6,163 total McGwires submitted, 3 PSA 10s. How is that even possible?

Arthur

Gilbey

Sneaky 10's, I thought it was a Russian dating site.

Gilbey

Sneaky 10's, I thought it was a Russian dating site.

Gilbey

Sneaky 10's, I thought it was a Russian dating site.

grote15

You've certainly got Gilbey's attention, Arthur..

ReggieCleveland

Okay, here's another...

1990 Bowman Sammy Sosa -- 3,561 total submissions, 116 PSA 10s

That's just 3.2%. Like the '87 FU McGwire, a card that probably got submitted in troves and has been forgotten for quite a long time but a difficult 10 of a once-great champeen, now a study in moppishness.

Arthur

maddux69

ClockworkAngel

Doesn't 1986 Topps Baseball have a bunch of "sneaky 10's"?

Stingray

@maddux69 said:

+1 for the Better Off Dead reference!! Classic!!