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1990 Donruss Errors

So I'm going to throw this out there in the hopes that someone else can add to it. After all, most of this was someone else's work at one point that I added to here and there. I believe this is as up-to-date as you can get for a list of errors (I literally added 3 to the list about an hour ago). I'm not including splatter patterns or "no dot" just for brevity's sake.

Oddly enough, not all of these are available in the first-run error boxes. Donruss actually took perfectly fine cards in the initial batch and screwed them up in subsequent printings and then had to correct them down the road. So it's a bit of a guessing game as far as when they entered the unopened product food chain. I've pulled all of these except for maybe 3 or 4 in first or second run wax though.

If anyone has anything to add to this PLEASE feel free to speak up. Thanks!

CARD # NAME VARIATION
BC-12 John Smoltz - MVP Photo of Tom Glavine
1 Bo Jackson - Diamond King Redone "I" in Diamond Kings
3 Ruben Sierra - Diamond Kings No Line in Top Back Border
10 Brian Downing - Diamond Kings Reverse Negative on Front
11 Kevin Mitchell - Diamond Kings White space in bottom right front border
11 Kevin Mitchell - Diamond Kings Space filled in with black
15 Ozzie Guillen - Diamond Kings Red Dot by Foot on Front
15 Ozzie Guillen - Diamond Kings No Red Dot by Foot on Front
18 Howard Johnson - Diamond Kings Bottom of 18 missing on back
18 Howard Johnson - Diamond Kings Errant dashed line by upper left border on front
18 Howard Johnson - Diamond Kings Normal
20 Chris Bosio - Diamond Kings Errant dashed line by upper left border on front
24 Pete O'Brien - Diamond Kings Fuzzy red line in DK banner
24 Pete O'Brien - Diamond Kings Thin red line in DK banner
24 Pete O'Brien - Diamond Kings White line in DK banner
24 Pete O'Brien - Diamond Kings Normal
33 Juan Gonzalez - Rated Rookie Reverse Negative on Front
67 Walt Weiss Break in stats border on back
67 Walt Weiss Shimmer in right black line on back
67 Walt Weiss Normal
100 Checklist 28-129
100 Checklist 28-125
113 Kelly Gruber DOB February 22
113 Kelly Gruber DOB February 26
154 Jesse Orosco Line cuts 'r' on front name
159 Andy Hawkins Check mark in upper left part of picture
159 Andy Hawkins Airbrushed check mark
168 Dale Murphy Half line through D
170 Kirk McCaskill DOB April 19
170 Kirk McCaskill DOB April 9
186 Rob Murphy Line through 'b' on front
200 Checklist 130-231
200 Checklist 126-233
206 George Bell G' open loop
206 George Bell G' filled
217 Scott Garrelts DOB October 20
217 Scott Garrelts DOB October 30
233 Eric Davis E' & 'r' joined
233 Eric Davis Normal
240 Marty Barrett Nick in black line above team name
270 Gregg Jefferies Open 'G' & 'J'
300 Checklist 232-333
300 Checklist 224-321
321 Jeff Hamilton Break in top line above team name
347 Bip Roberts Line breaks B
368 Kirk Gibson DOB May 25
368 Kirk Gibson DOB May 28
378 Jamie Moyer Yellow dot above 'I' on front
400 Checklist 334-435
400 Checklist 322-419
405 Sergio Valdez Line through S on front
408 Jeff Innis Upper right scratch mostly red
408 Jeff Innis Upper right scratch more white
425 David Wells Maple Leaf touches border
425 David Wells Gap between leaf and border
500 Checklist 436-537
500 Checklist 420-517
523 Andy Nezelek DOB 1985
523 Andy Nezelek DOB 1965
542 Mark Portugal Bottom front line break left of 'M'
573 Lance Johnson Part of 'L' missing in name on front
583 Kevin Hickey Black line through 'K'
585 Jeff Pico Break in bottom line on front
600 Checklist 538-639
600 Checklist 518-617
619 Shawn Hillegas Break in bottom line on front
619 Shawn Hillegas Full line
637 Terry Steinbach Blue scratch upper corner
637 Terry Steinbach White scratch upper corner
639 Jack Morris Black line through 'J' on front
699 George Canale Line through right loop on front 'G'
700 Checklist 640-BC26 with 716
700 Checklist 640-BC26 no 716
700 Checklist 618-716
716 A. Bartlett Giamati Cropped larger
716 A. Bartlett Giamati Cropped smaller
716 A. Bartlett Giamati No black lines on back

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  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BALROG said:
    I am like, the FARTHEST thing away from them people who are All Righteous I AM GOOD RIGHT ??? kinda guy, so not intended as such. They are the EVIL ones and don't even know it :)

    dude.. What you have here is a niche in the hobby that should be commended. Psycho ? yes of course .... but WAY more better than being the normal Gawd loving Card Joe who on the side is obsessed with mule arse.

    You should keep this going. Some of us will learn from it . I am. Love it man. Rock on. You have a financially responsible fun aspect of this ever loving hobby built in to greatness !

    Thank you, my friend. It is a labor of love and I will continue to pursue it.

    Arthur

  • lahmejoonlahmejoon Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭

    Aren’t there also the all star cards that have variations with a line through the star? Also, I think there’s a Nolan Ryan variation, but can’t recall what it was off the top of my head.

  • waxman2745waxman2745 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭
    edited June 12, 2018 5:46AM

    @lahmejoon said:
    Aren’t there also the all star cards that have variations with a line through the star? Also, I think there’s a Nolan Ryan variation, but can’t recall what it was off the top of my head.

    The #660 Harold Baines card has 4 variations:
    -black line through the yellow star on front, “Recent Major League Performance” on back
    -black line through the yellow star on front, “All Star Game Performance” on back
    -no black line through the yellow star, “Recent Major League Performance” on back
    -no black line through the yellow star, “All Star Game Performance” on back

    There are 2 Nolan Ryan special issue error cards:
    -One card has #659 "5,000 K's" on the front, but has his #665 "King of Kings" bio printed on the back.
    -The second card has #665 Dick Perez "King of Kings" painting on the front, but has his #659 career stats printed on the back.

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  • FirstBeardFirstBeard Posts: 472 ✭✭✭

    The Nolan Ryan wrong backs are the best errors in the set IMHO. 90 Donruss has a special place in my heart. Busted a few boxes over the past several years. My cousin pulled the Nolan errors _in the same pack _on two separate occasions. They may not be worth a ton, but we were slapping high fives like crazy.

    Great list - I will have it bookmarked as a reference next time we do a break.

  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah, sorry. I just assumed everyone knew about the All-Star and Ryan errors.

    I've discovered two more variations since I posted the initial list, including one for Griffey Jr.

    Arthur

  • jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭

    @ReggieCleveland said:
    Yeah, sorry. I just assumed everyone knew about the All-Star and Ryan errors.

    I've discovered two more variations since I posted the initial list, including one for Griffey Jr.

    Arthur

    What is the Griffey variation?

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  • BeRoyalKCBeRoyalKC Posts: 413 ✭✭

    So I don't have much to add except I bought an unopened collection a few years back that had 3 90 D boxes and the dealer had put "Error" stickers on the boxes. I think the only way to know for sure is to open them but I'm not sure if any of the errors are worth it. No big loss in opening the boxes either way. Have 90 UD boxes he had the same sticker on and 89 F that was labeled the same way and did have the BR FF in those as I opened a box. This thread has me interested in opening them to see but then what to do with those horrible looking cards.

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  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've ripped a decent amount of the first two print runs. I'd say around two cases of each, give or take. It's probably too early to say with absolute certainty because the sample size is just me but at this point I'm noticing no more than 4 or so of the errors are actually hard to find. Keep in mind, I haven't ripped any "control" wax (a later print run when everything should be corrected). So it may be completely safe to assume that none of the errors are actually difficult at all to find.

    Where it gets dicey is in finding them in gem mint condition or in finding the unopened wax. Those two things are proving to be increasingly difficult. I can rip 3-4 boxes and not find a card I would submit for a 10. Of all the wax I've ripped, I own four PSA 10s that I submitted. I have more at PSA now but not more than 10-15 cards.

    Dark red border + piss poor QC + brief & hurried initial run + smallest puzzle piece + tight wrap = perfect storm

    So keep that in mind if you're going to rip the boxes. It's not enough for you to pull the errors, you have to pull PSA 10 errors. Of course, try convincing someone that doesn't know you that the boxes you're trying to sell them are error boxes. It's a Catch-22.

    Arthur

  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Went through 5,000 more first-print run cards this morning and found a few new variations. At this point, I'd consider the above list extremely fluid as I haven't gotten serious about examining the card backs. I'm going to wait to update the list until I feel like I've at least somewhat exhausted my resources.

    Arthur

  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've isolated another print run in between what I previously referred to as the first and second print runs. I have info for three print runs now with the new addition being the second print run in this updated list. The sample size for that print run is one case.

    There's like an 86% chance I'm talking to myself here but if anyone else is reading this and has easy access to sorted 1990 Donruss I could use some input.

    • Was #287 Joe Orsulak ever corrected? Does anyone have a copy of this card that doesn't have the black mark on the front?

    • Anyone have #562 Rick Luecken red dot on cap? I'd like one more confirmation on this card before I sign off 100% on it.

    There are actually many more in addition to these but I want more concrete verification. At the rate I'm ripping cases it hopefully won't take long, although a few of these are actually proving to be legit rare, which I found surprising.

    CARD # NAME VARIATION FIRST RUN SECOND THIRD
    BC-12 John Smoltz - MVP Photo of Tom Glavine X X X
    1 Bo Jackson - Diamond King Redone "I" in Diamond Kings
    3 Ruben Sierra - Diamond Kings No Line in Top Back Border X X O
    10 Brian Downing - Diamond Kings Reverse Negative on Front X O O
    11 Kevin Mitchell - Diamond Kings White space in bottom right front border O O X
    11 Kevin Mitchell - Diamond Kings Space filled in with black bump X X
    15 Ozzie Guillen - Diamond Kings Red Dot by Foot on Front O O X
    15 Ozzie Guillen - Diamond Kings No Red Dot by Foot on Front X X X
    18 Howard Johnson - Diamond Kings Bottom of 18 missing on back O O X
    18 Howard Johnson - Diamond Kings Errant dashed line by upper left border on front O O O
    18 Howard Johnson - Diamond Kings Normal X X
    20 Chris Bosio - Diamond Kings Errant dashed line by upper left border on front X X O
    20 Chris Bosio - Diamond Kings Normal X O X
    24 Pete O'Brien - Diamond Kings Fuzzy red line in DK banner
    24 Pete O'Brien - Diamond Kings Thin red line in DK banner X X O
    24 Pete O'Brien - Diamond Kings White line in DK banner O X
    24 Pete O'Brien - Diamond Kings Normal
    33 Juan Gonzalez - Rated Rookie Reverse Negative on Front X O O
    67 Walt Weiss Break in stats border on back O O X
    67 Walt Weiss Shimmer in right black line on back X X O
    67 Walt Weiss Normal X O
    100 Checklist 28-129 X X X
    100 Checklist 28-125
    111 Roberto Alomar White dot right of helmet X
    113 Kelly Gruber DOB February 22 X X X
    113 Kelly Gruber DOB February 26 O
    154 Jesse Orosco Line cuts 'r' on front name X X X
    158 Greg Maddux Dot on line below 'M' on front X O
    159 Andy Hawkins Check mark in upper left part of picture O O X
    159 Andy Hawkins Airbrushed check mark X X O
    168 Dale Murphy Half line through D O X X
    170 Kirk McCaskill DOB April 19 X X X
    170 Kirk McCaskill DOB April 9 O O O
    186 Rob Murphy Line through 'b' on front O X X
    200 Checklist 130-231 X X
    200 Checklist 126-233
    206 George Bell G' open loop X X X
    206 George Bell G' filled O O O
    214 Mike Moore Yellow dot under Donruss on front O X X
    217 Scott Garrelts DOB October 20 X X X
    217 Scott Garrelts DOB October 30 O O O
    233 Eric Davis E' & 'r' joined X X X
    233 Eric Davis Normal O O O
    240 Marty Barrett Nick in black line above team name X X X
    270 Gregg Jefferies Open 'G' & 'J' X X X
    285 Jerome Walton Break in front bottom line left of J X X
    287 Joe Orsulak Black mark left of belt (corrected?) X X
    300 Checklist 232-333 X X X
    300 Checklist 224-321
    307 Duane Ward Line break on front bottom border X X X
    307 Duane Ward Full border O O O
    321 Jeff Hamilton Break in top line above team name X X X
    335 Jose Uribe Black dot left of bat O O X
    335 Jose Uribe Black dot airbrushed out X X O
    347 Bip Roberts Line breaks B X X X
    365 Ken Griffey Jr Blank accent mark through card nuber and line O O X
    365 Ken Griffey Jr Full line X X O
    368 Kirk Gibson DOB May 25 X X X
    368 Kirk Gibson DOB May 28 O O O
    378 Jamie Moyer Yellow dot above 'I' on front X O O
    400 Checklist 334-435 X X
    400 Checklist 322-419
    405 Sergio Valdez Line through S on front X X O
    405 Sergio Valdez Normal O O X
    408 Jeff Innis Upper right scratch mostly red X
    408 Jeff Innis Upper right scratch more white
    414 Trevor Wilson Red dot above glove O
    414 Trevor Wilson Red dot airbrushed out X
    424 Ken Caminiti Yellow dot right of name on front O X X
    425 David Wells Maple Leaf touches border O X
    425 David Wells Gap between leaf and border X O
    500 Checklist 436-537 X X X
    500 Checklist 420-517
    523 Andy Nezelek DOB 1985 X X X
    523 Andy Nezelek DOB 1965 O O O
    542 Mark Portugal Bottom front line break left of 'M' X O O
    542 Mark Portugal Full line O X X
    562 Rick Luecken Red dot on cap (seconded?) (corrected?)
    573 Lance Johnson Part of 'L' missing in name on front O O O
    583 Kevin Hickey Black line through 'K' O X O
    585 Jeff Pico Break in bottom line on front X O X
    595 Luis Quinones Black dot left of 'L' on front O X X
    600 Checklist 538-639 X X
    600 Checklist 518-617
    619 Shawn Hillegas Break in bottom line on front X X X
    619 Shawn Hillegas Full line X X X
    637 Terry Steinbach All-Star Blue scratch upper corner
    637 Terry Steinbach All-Star White scratch upper corner
    639 Jack Morris Black line through 'J' on front X X
    660 Harold Baines Line behind star - All-Star Experience O X X
    660 Harold Baines Line behind star - Major League Experience X O O
    660 Harold Baines Line in front of star - All-Star Experience O O O
    660 Harold Baines Line in front of star - Major League Experience O O O
    696 Scott Lusader Break in top front border X X
    699 George Canale Line through right loop on front 'G' X X X
    700 Checklist 640-BC26 with 716 X X
    700 Checklist 640-BC26 no 716 O O O
    700 Checklist 618-716 O O O
    716 A. Bartlett Giamati Cropped larger
    716 A. Bartlett Giamati Cropped smaller
    716 A. Bartlett Giamati No black lines on back O O O
    All-Star Experience O X X
    Recent Major League Experience X O O
    MVP with Dot X X O
    MVP with NO Dot O O X
    559 - 559 back O X X
    559 - 665 back X O O
    559 - 559 back with 665 number O O O
    665 - 665 back O X X
    665 - 559 back X O O

  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    An explanation for some of the blanks.

    I have no idea what the Bo Jackson DK error is. That's there from the original JWG list that was an excellent starting point and made me realize how many more errors there were in this set than just what I knew of. But I've yet to come across a copy of this card different from any other. The error obviously appears in a later print run. If anyone has a copy, I'd love to see it just for reference.

    I basically spent the first 95% of my time pulling out Terry Steinbach base and searching for a blue or white line. It was driving me crazy. Then I realized it was the Terry Steinbach AS card and I've been so mad that I haven't gone back and checked those cards. I wouldn't remember which print run I pulled them from anyway, so, yeah.

    I honestly can't tell the difference between Jeff Innis mostly red and mostly white. For all I know, I may only have one version. At this point though I mostly don't care.

    Weirdest thing about the bojillion boxes I've opened? I've pulled 4 Bart Giamatti commissioner cards. Seriously.

    Arthur

  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The list has grown considerably. If anyone wants to see a picture, let me know and I'll post an example for reference.

    CARD # NAME VARIATION
    1 Bo Jackson - Diamond King Redone "i" in Diamond Kings
    3 Ruben Sierra - Diamond Kings No Line in Top Back Border
    10 Brian Downing - Diamond Kings Reverse Negative on Front
    11 Kevin Mitchell - Diamond Kings Space filled in with black bump
    11 Kevin Mitchell - Diamond Kings White space in bottom right front border
    15 Ozzie Guillen - Diamond Kings No Red Dot by Foot on Front
    15 Ozzie Guillen - Diamond Kings Red Dot by Foot on Front
    18 Howard Johnson - Diamond Kings Bottom of 18 missing on back
    18 Howard Johnson - Diamond Kings Errant dashed line by upper left border on front, full 18 on back
    18 Howard Johnson - Diamond Kings Errant dashed line on front & Bottom of 18 missing on back
    18 Howard Johnson - Diamond Kings Normal
    20 Chris Bosio - Diamond Kings Errant dashed line by upper left border on front
    20 Chris Bosio - Diamond Kings Normal
    24 Pete O'Brien - Diamond Kings Fuzzy red line in DK banner
    24 Pete O'Brien - Diamond Kings Normal
    24 Pete O'Brien - Diamond Kings Thin red line in DK banner
    24 Pete O'Brien - Diamond Kings White line in DK banner
    33 Juan Gonzalez - Rated Rookie Reverse Negative on Front
    67 Walt Weiss Break in stats border on back
    67 Walt Weiss Normal
    67 Walt Weiss Shimmer in right black line on back
    71 Barry Larkin Broken Pepper Left of Eyes
    71 Barry Larkin Red pepper left of eyes
    71 Barry Larkin Skinny Pepper Left of Eyes
    100 Checklist 28-125
    100 Checklist 28-129
    111 Roberto Alomar No Dot
    111 Roberto Alomar White dot right of helmet
    113 Kelly Gruber DOB February 22
    113 Kelly Gruber DOB February 26
    125 Jose Canseco Vertical Line Below OF on Front - Yellow
    130 Hubie Brooks Circle on Thigh, Scratch Airbrushed Out
    130 Hubie Brooks Circle on Thigh, Scratch by Left Foot
    158 Greg Maddux Dot on line below 'M' on front
    158 Greg Maddux No Dot
    159 Andy Hawkins Airbrushed check mark
    159 Andy Hawkins Check mark in upper left part of picture
    168 Dale Murphy Half line through D
    170 Kirk McCaskill DOB April 19
    170 Kirk McCaskill DOB April 9
    173 B.J. Surhoff Red Splotch Above Helmet
    173 B.J. Surhoff Red Splotch Removed
    186 Rob Murphy Line through 'b' on front
    186 Rob Murphy No Line
    194 Darren Daulton Clean Negative
    194 Darren Daulton Residual Paint on Negative Above Head
    195 Alfredo Griffin Scratches Airbrushed Out
    195 Alfredo Griffin Small Black Scratches Right of Bat
    198 Paul O'Neill Paw Scratch Airbrushed Out
    198 Paul O'Neill Red Paw Scratch Right of Helmet
    198 Paul O'Neill Black Paw Scratch Right of Helmet
    200 Checklist 126-233
    200 Checklist 130-231
    206 George Bell Closed loop 'G'
    206 George Bell Open loop 'G'
    214 Mike Moore No Dot
    214 Mike Moore Yellow dot under Donruss on front
    217 Scott Garrelts DOB October 20
    217 Scott Garrelts DOB October 30
    233 Eric Davis E' & 'r' joined
    233 Eric Davis Normal
    270 Gregg Jefferies Open loop 'G' & 'J'
    287 Joe Orsulak Black mark left of belt (corrected?)
    300 Checklist 224-321
    300 Checklist 232-333
    307 Duane Ward Full border
    307 Duane Ward Line break on front bottom border
    321 Jeff Hamilton Break in top line above team name
    321 Jeff Hamilton Full Line
    335 Jose Uribe Black dot left of bat
    335 Jose Uribe Dots airbrushed out
    335 Jose Uribe White dot left of bat
    343 Kevin Brown "Signeed" in first line of bio (UER?)
    347 Bip Roberts Line breaks B
    365 Ken Griffey Jr Blank accent mark through card nuber and line
    365 Ken Griffey Jr Break in front bottom border by left elbow
    365 Ken Griffey Jr Full line
    368 Kirk Gibson DOB May 25
    368 Kirk Gibson DOB May 28
    378 Jamie Moyer No Dot
    378 Jamie Moyer Yellow dot above 'I' on front
    400 Checklist 322-419
    400 Checklist 334-435
    405 Sergio Valdez Line through S on front
    405 Sergio Valdez Normal
    406 Mark Williamson Black scratch below Orioles on front (corrected?)
    408 Jeff Innis Upper right scratch more white
    408 Jeff Innis Upper right scratch mostly red
    414 Trevor Wilson Red dot above glove
    414 Trevor Wilson Red dot airbrushed out
    424 Ken Caminiti Yellow dot right of name on front
    425 David Wells Gap between leaf and border
    425 David Wells Maple Leaf touches border
    436 Gene Larkin Black Quotation Marks Right of Helmet
    436 Gene Larkin Marks Airbrushed Out
    471 Mackey Sasser Blue apostrophe left of eyes
    471 Mackey Sasser Blue banana & Blue apostrophe
    471 Mackey Sasser Blue banana above hip
    498 Mike Macfarlane No Dot
    498 Mike Macfarlane Pink dot on hat
    500 Checklist 420-517
    500 Checklist 436-537
    523 Andy Nezelek DOB 1965
    523 Andy Nezelek DOB 1985
    523 Andy Nezelek DOB 1985 with Dot Below 'A' on Front
    542 Mark Portugal Bottom front line break left of 'M'
    542 Mark Portugal Full line
    562 Rick Luecken No Red Dot on Cap
    562 Rick Luecken Red dot on cap
    573 Lance Johnson Full Name
    573 Lance Johnson Part of 'L' missing in name on front
    583 Kevin Hickey Black line through 'K'
    583 Kevin Hickey Normal Name
    585 Jeff Pico Break in bottom line on front
    585 Jeff Pico Full Line
    595 Luis Quinones Black dot left of 'L' on front
    595 Luis Quinones No Dot
    600 Checklist 518-617
    600 Checklist 538-639
    602 Terry Kennedy No Paint
    602 Terry Kennedy Painted Teammates in Dugout
    619 Shawn Hillegas Break in bottom line and on top border on front
    619 Shawn Hillegas Break in bottom line on front
    619 Shawn Hillegas Full line
    624 Mark Lemke Black Feather Above Shoulder
    624 Mark Lemke Feather Airbrushed Out
    637 Terry Steinbach All-Star Blue Scratch with AS Game Performance on back
    637 Terry Steinbach All-Star Blue Scratch with Recent ML Performance on back
    637 Terry Steinbach All-Star Half Scratch with AS Game Performance on back
    637 Terry Steinbach All-Star Half Scratch with Recent ML Performance on back
    637 Terry Steinbach All-Star White Scratch with AS Game Performance on back
    637 Terry Steinbach All-Star White Scratch with Recent ML Performance on back
    639 Jack Morris Black line through 'J' on front
    639 Jack Morris Corrected
    650 Bo Jackson All-Star Circled 'T' Airbrushed Out w/ All-Star Performance on back
    650 Bo Jackson All-Star Circled 'T' Airbrushed Out w/ Recent ML Performance on back
    650 Bo Jackson All-Star Circled 'T' by Left Knee w/ All-Star Performance on back
    650 Bo Jackson All-Star Circled 'T' by Left Knee w/ Recent ML Performance on back
    654 Howard Johnson All-Star Blue Scratch with AS Game Performance on back
    654 Howard Johnson All-Star Blue Scratch with Recent ML Performance on back
    654 Howard Johnson All-Star Red & Blue Scratch with Blue on Top - AS Game Performance on back
    654 Howard Johnson All-Star Red & Blue Scratch with Blue on Top - Recent ML Performance on back
    654 Howard Johnson All-Star Red & Blue Scratch with Red on Top - AS Game Performance on back
    654 Howard Johnson All-Star Red & Blue Scratch with Red on Top - Recent ML Performance on back
    654 Howard Johnson All-Star Red Scratch with AS Game Performance on back
    654 Howard Johnson All-Star Red Scratch with Recent ML Performance on back
    654 Howard Johnson All-Star White Scratch with All-Star Performance on back
    654 Howard Johnson All-Star White Scratch with Recent ML Performance on back
    660 Harold Baines Line behind star - All-Star Performance on back
    660 Harold Baines Line behind star - Major League Performance on back
    660 Harold Baines Line in front of star - All-Star Performance on back
    660 Harold Baines Line in front of star - Major League Performance on back
    662 Clint Zavaras Black line airbrushed out
    662 Clint Zavaras Black line on nostril
    663 Rick Reuschel All-Star Black streak in front left border with All-Star Game Performance on back
    663 Rick Reuschel All-Star Black streak in front left border with Recent ML Game Performance on back
    663 Rick Reuschel All-Star No Black Streak in Border, All-Star Game Performance on back
    663 Rick Reuschel All-Star No Black Streak in Border, Recent ML Performance on back
    683 Kirby Puckett All-Star Mostly Brown Dust by His Right Calf in Photo with All-Star Performance on back
    683 Kirby Puckett All-Star Mostly Brown Dust by His Right Calf in Photo with Recent ML Perform on back
    683 Kirby Puckett All-Star Mostly Teal Dust by His Right Calf in Photo with All-Star Performance on back
    683 Kirby Puckett All-Star Mostly Teal Dust by His Right Calf in Photo with Recent ML Performance on back
    696 Scott Lusader Break in top front border
    699 George Canale Line through right loop on front 'G'
    700 Checklist 618-716
    700 Checklist 640-BC26 no 716
    700 Checklist 640-BC26 with 716
    703 Dave Stewart All-Star No Scratch - All-Star Performance on Back
    703 Dave Stewart All-Star No Scratch - Recent ML Performance on Back
    703 Dave Stewart All-Star Chameleon Scratch Right of Elbow - All-Star Performance on Back
    703 Dave Stewart All-Star Chameleon Scratch Right of Elbow - Recent ML Performance on Back
    708 Benito Santiago All-Star Faded Green Vertical Stripe in Next to Right Foot on Front, AS Perform on back
    708 Benito Santiago All-Star Faded Green Vertical Stripe Next to Right Foot, Recent ML Performance on back
    708 Benito Santiago All-Star Green Vertical Stripe in Dirt Next to Right Foot on Front, AS Perform on back
    708 Benito Santiago All-Star Green Vertical Stripe Next to Right Foot, Recent ML Performance on back
    708 Benito Santiago All-Star No Green Stripe, AS Performance on back
    708 Benito Santiago All-Star No Green Stripe, Recent ML Performance on back
    710 Ozzie Smith All-Star Black Vertical Scratch in Dirt with AS Game Performance on back
    710 Ozzie Smith All-Star Black Vertical Scratch in Dirt with Recent ML Performance on back
    710 Ozzie Smith All-Star Green Vertical Scratch in Dirt with AS Game Performance on back
    710 Ozzie Smith All-Star Green Vertical Scratch in Dirt with Recent ML Performance on back
    715 Kevin Mitchell All-Star No Blue Triangles, All-Star Performance on back
    715 Kevin Mitchell All-Star No Blue Triangles, Recent ML Performance on back
    715 Kevin Mitchell All-Star One Blue Triangle on Stomach, All-Star Performance on back
    715 Kevin Mitchell All-Star One Blue Triangle on Stomach, Recent ML Performance on back
    715 Kevin Mitchell All-Star Two Blue Triangles on Stomach, All-Star Performance on back
    715 Kevin Mitchell All-Star Two Blue Triangles on Stomach, Recent ML Performance on back
    716 A. Bartlett Giamati Cropped larger
    716 A. Bartlett Giamati Cropped smaller
    716 A. Bartlett Giamati No black lines on back
    BC-12 John Smoltz - MVP Photo of Tom Glavine
    BC-2 Howard Johnson - MVP Clean Jersey
    BC-2 Howard Johnson - MVP Fuzzy Blue Triangle on Jersey Neck

    All-Star Performance    
    Recent Major League Performance 
    MVP subset with Dot after INC   
    MVP subset with NO Dot after INC    
    659 - 659 back      
    659 - 665 back  
    659 - 659 back with 665 number  
    665 - 665 back  
    665 - 659 back  
    
    *****   All errors/variations occurring on All-Star cards are assumed to be available in
    *****   both All-Star Performance and Recent ML Performance backs. This may not be 
    *****   the case though. 
    
    All-Star Cards -----    Harold Baines, Julio Franco, Wade Boggs, Bo Jackson, and Kirby Puckett are all
        missing the "TM" trademark symbol next to the American League emblem on 
        the front of their cards. No examples with the "TM" present are known.
    
    Diamond Kings ----- Some DKs have been reportedly found with No Period after INC on back. 
        These should be considered difficult, if not rare, and not all DKs are known to   
        exist with No Period INC. A stark contrast to the availability of Period/No Period
        INC base cards.
    

  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 13, 2018 8:21AM

    While I still have the scan and info reaily available ...

    71 Larkin Broken (wax w/INC.) / skinny (factory set) / red (wax w/INC)

  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭

    Hmm... wonder if each of those errors/variation have retail INC/INC. versions (insert evil grin)

  • krisd3279krisd3279 Posts: 808 ✭✭✭✭

    I may have to pull out the 90D binder and see what I have in there!

    Kris

    My 1971 Topps adventure - Davis Men in Black

  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 13, 2018 9:48AM

    @TNP777 said:
    Hmm... wonder if each of those errors/variation have retail INC/INC. versions (insert evil grin)

    For the Larkin at least, the variation followed the INC/INC.; I couldn't find an individual variation that had both possible. I already had these new variations separated before I knew about the 'peppers' on the front.

  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭

    Makes sense. Since the variations are scarce, they probably weren't run with both versions.

  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unfortunately, I gave zero fricks about the INC/INC. going into this Kubrickian project so I don't have that info available for all the E&Vs.

    Arthur

  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Was Cal Ripken part of the error dance?

  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tibor said:
    Was Cal Ripken part of the error dance?

    He's got the All-Star Performance/Recent ML Performance variation on the back of his All-Star cards like all the other All-Star cards but I've yet to find any other variations for him. Unless he's in the MVP subset, in which case he would have the INC/INC. pair of those.

    Arthur

  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ReggieCleveland Thank you for the answer.

  • 1966CUDA1966CUDA Posts: 2,003 ✭✭✭✭

    Did I find another Ryan error? See the black lines partially covering letters in NOLAN RYAN at top. Thoughts?


  • In4apennyIn4apenny Posts: 298 ✭✭✭

    I have 7 to 8 thousand of 90 D in sort boxes. Opened 90/91. Checked in 99 and this year for HOF players. When I have the time and/or interest will check for said newly found errors. I do have 2 cases of blister packs and 9 or so wax boxes. I too only have 3 or 4 Giamati's.

  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1966CUDA said:
    Did I find another Ryan error? See the black lines partially covering letters in NOLAN RYAN at top. Thoughts?


    Just misaligned printing. I've got that on a lot of cards. QC was an abomination in '90 Donruss. They didn't throw out anything. Everything got put into packs.

    Arthur

  • richtreerichtree Posts: 1,500 ✭✭✭

    I have some of these if anyone needs some, let me know. thanks

    Buying:
    Topps White Out (silver) letters Alex Gordon
    80 Topps Greg Pryor “No Name"
    90 ProSet Dexter Manley error
    90 Topps Jeff King Yellow back
    1958 Topps Pancho Herrera (no“a”)
    81 Topps Art Howe (black smear above hat)
    91 D A. Hawkins BC-12 “Pitcher”
  • Has anyone seen the Ken Griffey Jr. 365 with a Green "Scar" underneath his right eye? Most of the cards sold on ebay do not have this and I have seen the "Green Scar" card listed (but not sold) for hundreds of dollars. I have one with this scar so I am definitely curious.

  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a seemingly insignificant print defect that also doesn't seem that rare. But the 1990 Donruss Griffey has at least three seemingly insignificant print defects that don't appear to be too rare. Could they combine forces to Voltron into an actually rare print defect? That doesn't seem like a project I'm much interested in. But anyone who did undertake such a project would certainly be in my good graces.

    Arthur

  • I have a jose canseco card that has no dot after the inc. Does anyone else have one like this?

  • junkwaxgemsjunkwaxgems Posts: 253 ✭✭✭

    @Steelr85 said:
    I have a jose canseco card that has no dot after the inc. Does anyone else have one like this?

    Yes, “many” thousands of us do.

    Nothing rare about the INC/INC. variations.

    fka jacksoncoupage, comc.com: junkwaxgems, ebay: junkwaxgems
  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 27, 2021 10:58AM

    Every time this thread pops up I'm reminded of how much more work I have left to do on this. I'm basically treating the remaining wax cases in my basement like Wilson from 'Cast Away.'

    "Oh would you just shut up!.... Don't you think I know that!?!?..... YOU WERE PRINTED TOO LATE,
    DO YOU UNDERSTAND!?!?"

    Arthur

  • 82FootballWaxMemorys82FootballWaxMemorys Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 27, 2021 11:36AM

    ahh yes the height of the error card period of the junk wax era. I'd do recall in my youth the initial joy of pulling the 1990 Score Sandberg 3B error card from a pack after having seen it in publications then minutes later thinking so what :)

    It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)

  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Because, you know...

    Arthur

  • 1966CUDA1966CUDA Posts: 2,003 ✭✭✭✭

    "Because, you know..."

    Forgot about this one!


  • Bought one box of the jumbo wax packs and pulled the Red star grand slammer of Todd Benzinger.

  • WFC2008WFC2008 Posts: 100 ✭✭

    The Grand Slammers also come with different splatter patterns. I have pulled both the red and yellow star from the same box so while I cannot prove this, I believe only one or possibly more splatter patterns will come with the red star variation as it did not impact all of the cards, only the card in that position on the sheet.

  • WFC2008WFC2008 Posts: 100 ✭✭

    There is another variation on 170 Kirk McCaskill aside from the DOB. There is a loose glove strand that is on some cards while airbrushed out on others. I know this can be found in packs but I do not know if the variation occurs with the corrected DOB from the sets. I have included a picture for example. Just pulled it from an eBay listing rather than digging mine out. Not my photo/not my listing.

  • junkwaxgemsjunkwaxgems Posts: 253 ✭✭✭

    @WFC2008 said:
    There is another variation on 170 Kirk McCaskill aside from the DOB. There is a loose glove strand that is on some cards while airbrushed out on others. I know this can be found in packs but I do not know if the variation occurs with the corrected DOB from the sets. I have included a picture for example. Just pulled it from an eBay listing rather than digging mine out. Not my photo/not my listing.

    Are you sure this "airbrushed" version without the glove thread exists on the 4/19 birthdate cards? Every copy I have encountered is on the 4/9 (factory set) version.

    fka jacksoncoupage, comc.com: junkwaxgems, ebay: junkwaxgems
  • WFC2008WFC2008 Posts: 100 ✭✭

    Sorry reading back my statement it seems very unclear. What I meant to say was that I was that I know that the glove strand one can be found in packs but was unsure if it appeared in the sets as well. The way I phrased it made it sound like both versions are in the packs and that is not what I meant to do.

  • junkwaxgemsjunkwaxgems Posts: 253 ✭✭✭

    @WFC2008 said:
    Sorry reading back my statement it seems very unclear. What I meant to say was that I was that I know that the glove strand one can be found in packs but was unsure if it appeared in the sets as well. The way I phrased it made it sound like both versions are in the packs and that is not what I meant to do.

    At this point in time, it appears that the glove strand is a by product of the birthdate correction and not a separate 3rd variety.

    fka jacksoncoupage, comc.com: junkwaxgems, ebay: junkwaxgems
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