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Predict the grade - pre submission 1980 Bird/J/Magic

Tecmo BoilTecmo Boil Posts: 259 ✭✭✭
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What do the experts think? I’d be satisfied with a 7. But think it could be 6-8. Would love to hear your predictions.



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  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭✭✭

    maybe a 4

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  • FrozencaribouFrozencaribou Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    7

  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭

    That might be seen as paper loss, so I would think below a 5??

  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Stingray said:
    That might be seen as paper loss, so I would think below a 5??

    If they don't ding it for paper loss it could be an 8. I like that it doesn't have the dreaded black line near Magic's name.

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  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What's going on in the perforation just below Larry's sight line?

    Arthur

  • ahopkinsahopkins Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. I think that notch, or whatever you want to call it, under the magnifying glass drags the grade down.

    Andy

  • Tecmo BoilTecmo Boil Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    @ReggieCleveland said:
    What's going on in the perforation just below Larry's sight line?

    >

    Those are typical perforation “skips” from my experience.

    Thanks all. Really hoping they don’t ding me for the chip/dent.

  • WFFLWFFL Posts: 496 ✭✭✭

    I hope they don't ding with a ST.

  • MrHockeyMrHockey Posts: 555 ✭✭✭

    6

  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    6 maybe 6.5

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  • brad31brad31 Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭✭✭

    8

  • Tecmo BoilTecmo Boil Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    @WFFL said:
    I hope they don't ding with a ST.

    Where would be the concern? Back side “shininess”?

  • jay0791jay0791 Posts: 3,542 ✭✭✭✭

    8

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  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tecmo Boil said:

    @ReggieCleveland said:
    What's going on in the perforation just below Larry's sight line?

    >

    Those are typical perforation “skips” from my experience.

    Thanks all. Really hoping they don’t ding me for the chip/dent.

    Yeah, familiar with the skips. Talking about the vertical lines, especially the one that dissects the first perf above the skip. I'm assuming by your lack of concern that those are on the plastic holder.

    Arthur

  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭✭✭

    5

  • Tecmo BoilTecmo Boil Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    @ReggieCleveland said:

    @Tecmo Boil said:

    @ReggieCleveland said:
    What's going on in the perforation just below Larry's sight line?

    >

    Those are typical perforation “skips” from my experience.

    Thanks all. Really hoping they don’t ding me for the chip/dent.

    Yeah, familiar with the skips. Talking about the vertical lines, especially the one that dissects the first perf above the skip. I'm assuming by your lack of concern that those are on the plastic holder.

    Arthur

    Ah! Yes those are on the holder.
    You guys are good.

  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the fisheye on the back gets cancelled out by your perfect back registration. Back registration on these is kind of a b!tch and the blue in the names is always slightly off and it sticks out like a sore thumb. But PSA doesn't seem to mind; I have a PSA 10 of the Bird rookie and the back reg is slightly off. It really all boils down to how they're going to view that thing on the edge. I don't even know how to view it. I think I'd need to see it in-hand.

    I don't think you're looking at an 8 though.

    Arthur

  • jersterjerster Posts: 828 ✭✭✭

    Beauty. Put me down for 6.5.

  • dan89dan89 Posts: 491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    7

  • LittletweedLittletweed Posts: 623 ✭✭✭

    6

    Matt

  • baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭

    6-6.5 good luck with it

    Fred

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  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,745 ✭✭✭

    6



    Thanks,

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  • Tecmo BoilTecmo Boil Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    Result is in:

    PSA 5.

    They definitely dinged it for the ding.

    But I still love the card.

  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's no such thing as a bad Bird/J/Magic.

    Arthur

  • Tecmo BoilTecmo Boil Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    @ReggieCleveland said:
    There's no such thing as a bad Bird/J/Magic.

    Arthur

    Indeed!!!

  • Bear48Bear48 Posts: 241 ✭✭✭

    7.5

  • dontippetdontippet Posts: 2,609 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 11, 2018 10:29AM

    I had a 1981 Donruss golf card that had two chip / dents on it, although my dents were probably half the size of these. Card came back PSA 10, so you never know.

    Edited to add that my chip / dent was from the manufacturing process since I've seen the same on other 1981 Donruss cards, but I was still shocked with the grade.

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  • secretstashsecretstash Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭✭

    Let us know when the PSA 5 is up for auction. Cannot imagine it won't be a beauty in the case (show it!).

  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would imagine he's already gotten a few offers. I'd be hard-pressed to find a better looking 5.

    Arthur

  • Tecmo BoilTecmo Boil Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    Ha. Thanks. This one might just end up being part of the PC. Can’t wait to get it back. I’ll post a picture then.

  • BPorter26BPorter26 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's the type of card you crack out and get it signed by all 3. The total cost on the auto's should run about $350-$400

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  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BPorter26 said:
    That's the type of card you crack out and get it signed by all 3. The total cost on the auto's should run about $350-$400

    I agree but I would try to get it graded again before doing that. I had a Dr. J rookie that took 3 or 4 submission over a 5 year period that started off as a 5 and is now a 7.

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  • Tecmo BoilTecmo Boil Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    Those are some good ideas. Hmmmmm

  • Tecmo BoilTecmo Boil Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    And...here it is slabbed.




  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nailed it.
    Still a killer card with amazing centering

  • Tecmo BoilTecmo Boil Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    @BPorter26 said:
    That's the type of card you crack out and get it signed by all 3. The total cost on the auto's should run about $350-$400

    I’ve never done this before. What is the best way to go about getting this done?

  • wadevlwadevl Posts: 224 ✭✭✭

    TOUGH 5!!

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  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a real nice looking 5. If you're selling, I wouldn't sell for 5 money. Then again, you don't seem to have a (good) scanner so...

    Arthur

  • GoDodgersFanGoDodgersFan Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭

    Amazing five ! I would keep it and resubmit at a later time.

  • Tecmo BoilTecmo Boil Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    @ReggieCleveland said:
    That's a real nice looking 5. If you're selling, I wouldn't sell for 5 money. Then again, you don't seem to have a (good) scanner so...

    Arthur

    Thanks for the passive-aggressive advice. I didn’t realize I had to use my scanner in this thread. Sorry for the inconvenience. I’m still new here.

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tecmo Boil said:

    @ReggieCleveland said:
    That's a real nice looking 5. If you're selling, I wouldn't sell for 5 money. Then again, you don't seem to have a (good) scanner so...

    Arthur

    Thanks for the passive-aggressive advice. I didn’t realize I had to use my scanner in this thread. Sorry for the inconvenience. I’m still new here.

    It might have been a little passive aggressive, but scanned images are much easier to judge when trying to estimate a grade.

    Generally even a good scanned image can be hard to "guess the grade" on.

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  • Tecmo BoilTecmo Boil Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    I agree, Joe. Ideally I would have done that. And if/when I sell I’ll definitely do that. Was originally supposed to be a quick guess the grade thread, with pictures being more convenient at the time. Regardless of the delivery, the advice has merit, especially when I sell.

  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry about that. DIdn't mean it to come across as a smartarse. I just meant, in order to maximize the premium you should be able to get for that card (it's super nice and should get better than 5 money) you'll need a nice scanner to sell the buyer on dropping that coin.

    I am jamming my foot in my mouth a lot lately. Brain less work for me now. Concussions bad.

    Arthur

  • Tecmo BoilTecmo Boil Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    No problem Arthur. Thanks for clarifying. I’ve done the same plenty of times! I’ll get the scanner warmed up for when I list.

  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Arthur's good people, brevity on posting does not always convey intent as well as personal conversation.

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