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@NJCoin said:

@Bullsitter said:
So much for 100,000..........
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That's INSANE given all the orders they aggressively canceled for weeks on end. If they don't revise that number downward, they are going to have some 'splaining to do. Even though they have shown repeatedly over the past year or so that they are perfectly capable, and willing, to not stick to stated mintage limits.

If they can intentionally under produce, and hurt people who didn't buy only because they didn't like the price at the stated maximum mintage, no reason they can't over produce, and also force people to make decisions based on inaccurate information.

I am fully aware many here think one is perfectly permissible while the other is a crime against humanity, but they really are opposite sides of the same coin, with the same potential negative impact, depending on whether you were induced to either buy or not buy, based on intentionally misleading information entirely within the control of the Mint.

Exceeding the LIMIT is very different than choosing to not produce the entire LIMIT.

Warm wishes to her, I miss her 🤗

Beautiful coin. I owned an early copper half cent with small discrete areas of pink-magenta and I could not cross it to PCGS who considered it to be recolored. I also owned a gorgeous multicolored brown Randall hoard cent that look right to me but JA insisted had been recolored. It takes an early copper expert to sort these coins out.

@PeakRarities said:

@skier07 said:
If the coin was submitted as a reconsideration the certification number does not change

This has been my experience, so i'm not sure why the OP's went inactive. I had a couple upgrade by a full grade level and the certs remained the same. I think the dealer may have checked off "regrade" instead if "reconsideration". There still is no downside (except for rare occasions), the coins are cracked out of their holder first and graded again. If they don't upgrade, they'll send them back in a new holder with the original grade at minimum. I don't recall my certs ever going inactive during a submission, so this would be my best guess as an explanation, and fwiw typically I've had better success than regrade than recon. Fingers crossed!

I think a downside could be losing the original holder if there's no grade change. Some people like the old plastic and many coins are worth more in old plastic.

@ProofCollection said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@ProofCollection said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@ProofCollection said:

@Manorcourtman said:
One thing is sure about this issue, and that’s if you wanted one, it was easy to obtain.

That was the goal of the mint. Only recently have they finally figured out how to achieve it.

You mean by decreasing interest?

No, by enforcing HHL strictly.

I don't think we know that they are doing anything now that they haven't done in the last 4 years. People are assuming they are but I see no evidence of it. Everyone i know who ordered multiples to different addresses for them, just as we always used to.

I think declining interest is as much a factor as anything else.

Perhaps you missed the 'household' part of the household limit. It's one per household, not one per individual. If you have multiple households you can buy multiple coins, so no surprise that everyone you know was able to get one at each of their households.

But besides that, are you saying that previous issues have had this many cancellations? I don't know about previous releases but on this one we watched the mint inventory like a hawk. I'm too lazy to go back through the thread but it seemed to me like they had tens of thousands of cancellations which seems unusually high. You think that was a typical amount?

I know that. But that's what people have been doing forever. The Mint NEVER allowed multiple shipments to the same household which is why I see no evidence of them doing anything different this time.

Cancellations appeared higher this time on the Army privy (not the Sac) but that may have been die to an accidental ordering loophole where the system was allowing people to buy multiple coins when checking out as guests. That's kind of the opposite of improved enforcement.

I see zero evidence of unusual cancelations on the Sac coin.

Overall, I do see a lot of evidence of diminished interest in Mintv offerings. Proof and Mint set sales have fallen off a cliff. Gold commemoratives at new record lows almost every year and the Army Privy took forever to sell it despite a secondary market bid of $200.

It's been like that for 20 years

@Nickpatton said:

@Bullsitter said:
I bet they'll fix it.....

The only way they’ll fix it is if enough people complain about it…..they aren’t to good on keeping up with population, and put silver, brass, nickel, and aluminum all in the same category , and the copper separately ‼️‼️😱😱😱

The lack of putting the different metals into different coin numbers makes the registry for them almost impossible. Drives me bonkers.

It's interesting that the copyright for the Sac gold OGP is 2024, but fir the Army ASE its 2025.

Wow. Call it $30K each for 35 pieces = $1 million. Heck of a score. I hope the rest of the story comes out!