@WQuarterFreddie said:

@PeakRarities said:

@WQuarterFreddie said:
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@WQuarterFreddie said:

@Connecticoin said:

@PeakRarities said:
This is just one of those nonsense articles to generate clicks, nothing remotely insightful here.

Or accurate. Garbage like this is consumed as “news”.

Quite frankly, it introduced me to coins I had never heard of and gave me a brief history of each.

I think you experienced collectors need to remember that you all started at the beginning and didn't know much about coins until you researched them.

FWIW, articles like this one helps to generate interest in the hobby of which many of you complain is dying.

You all need to learn to be nicer to the noobies!😉

Freddie, I like you very much and enjoy some of your posts here, especially your passion. I am a full time dealer and see pretty much everything that happens in the hobby/business of coins. I’ll be honest, I’m surprised you posted an article that is so far away from a numismatic side, but much more to “silly news” side. As a person who respects, enjoys, learns and has made my life out of coins, you must be able to see this kind of article is just “fluff” it the most basic sense.

You have been around and made some cool and interesting conversations about coins you like. Do you not see how an article like this to the general public contains an incredible amount of misinformation as well as setting up a new person for failure! It’s actually articles like this that hurt the hobby from new people coming in expecting the “highest mountain” but then get told they are a waste of time.

Nothing I’m saying here is meant to be against you personally; so please know I’m not attacking you. But I am concerned you are standing up for such an article and then sharing it in such a group of serious collectors, then questioning why the responses are what they are?

Thank you for taking the time to post and your kind words about me.

Quite frankly, I posted the article because I found it interesting. I totally understand why the experienced collectors have no interest in it but to dismiss it as click bait is a bit much in my opinion.

"We dismissed it because it IS clickbait, and it's misleading for novices. In the future other novices will stumble across this thread, so in the interest of posterity, it's best to set the record straight. In terms of "experienced collectors", context is needed. Compared to a significant portion of collectors, YOU are the experienced one. You've been a member here since 2020 and you have 3000 posts, surely you're multiples more experienced than you were then, no?"

"Clickbait (also known as link bait or linkbait is a text or a thumbnail link that is designed to attract attention and to entice users to follow ("click") that link and view, read, stream or listen to the linked piece of online content, being typically deceptive, sensationalized, or otherwise misleading. A "teaser" aims to exploit the "curiosity gap", providing just enough information to make readers of news websites curious, but not enough to satisfy their curiosity without clicking through to the linked content. Clickbait headlines often add an element of dishonesty, using enticements that do not accurately reflect the content being delivered."
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"Clickbait is primarily used to drive page views on websites,whether for their own purposes or to increase online advertising revenue. It can also be used for phishing attacks for the purpose of spreading malicious files or stealing user information.[20] The attack occurs once the user opens the link provided to learn more. There are various clickbait strategies, including the composition of headlines of news and online articles that build suspense and sensation, luring and teasing users to click. Some of the popular approaches in achieving these include the presentation of link and images that are interesting to the user, exploiting curiosity related to greed or prurient interest.[20] It is not uncommon, for instance, for these contents to include lewd image or a "make money quick" scheme.

To be clear, this was not an article from one of the AD links on AOL. The article is from gobankingrates.com

Ok, but whats your point? If we're talking about credibility, that changes nothing for me.

For a novice collector the article sheds light on some interesting coins. Yes, some readers will interpret it literally that they can find some of these "Still in Circulation" coins but am sure there are many others like me that can read through the exaggerations of availability and valuations.

You’re kidding, right? You are giving WAY too much credit to the intellect of the average American. We live in a society where cashiers don't even know how to make change, and they call the police when you use a two dollar bill

I never knew some of the coins mentioned existed in the coin world. That was my take from the article not that I could find one of them still in circulation or become rich looking through coin rolls.

Are you talking about the varieties? I'm clueless about the "speared bison", matter of fact I'm clueless about the vast majority of varieties. Sure I recognize a 55 DDO and the uber-popular ones like that but beyond that, consider me ignorant.

Most importantly, I believe this forum should be more welcoming to new collectors. Unfortunately, there are a few members on here that believe it is their private forum and they are quick to try and dismiss, intimidate and bully any member and/or topic they disagree with instead of discussing it with an open mind and civility.😎

Freddie, from what I've seen the forum is plenty welcoming to new members. Of course there will always be a few sour grapes, as with any community. Typically, when there’s around 20 comments, maybe one will be rude or dismissive. In light of that, keep in mind that the members that contribute to the encyclopedia of knowledge here don’t get paid to do so, so when a new collector posts here to obtain some of the most well respected and FREE opinions in the country, I don’t feel as we owe it to them to speak as if they were sensitive children. Im sure some might consider a link to the red book on amazon as flippant or dismissive, but you cant help someone that doesn't want to help themselves.

Listen, I'm not trying debate you here but have a tendency to double down and dig your heels in which makes it too easy. I'm glad you found it to be a good read, but it has no useful or accurate information to discuss. I'd rather you post your opinion of what 10 coins you expect to appreciate, with reasoning and data as to why.

I would like to compliment you on your efficient use of the BOLD font and I can only imagine how long your post would have been if you WERE trying to debate me.😂🤣

I do have enough experience on this forum to realize that when a member resorts to copying and pasting the definition of a word then the discussion is over.😉

I stand by my statements. You have not changed my mind and I know I won't change your mind so I suggest we agree to disagree about this one.🧐

Enjoy your weekend!😎

That would probably be best, I have enough experience to realize that when a member resorts to criticizing the way my points are formatted rather than the points themselves, the discussion is over.

Before I go, allow me to point out that there are at least a dozen experienced forum members in this thread who you're also agreeing to disagree with, in a thread where you asked for our thoughts. As a self proclaimed novice (your words, not mine), do you see the irony in this by any chance? I'm certainly no expert, but the knowledge that I do have was gathered by listening to the guys that knew more than me. It did not come to me via osmosis, nor was it learned from a Canadian freelance columnist.

You have a fantastic weekend as well 😎

@Zoins said:
Always a treat to enjoy the Carter-Morelan-Simpson Dollar! Or at least the TrueView!

Thanks @tradedollarnut and @PhilArnold!

Wow! Simply wow!

As a former Sailor, Go Navy, Beat Army is my normal feeling today, however I have to say the Black Knights have had a hell of a season, and I kind of hope they win out.

However I will not say that to my Brother (or any other Grunts I know), because my superior Flying Squid power will not let me!

That said ... how about an 1824 to commemorate the 2024 game ... and one of our last Saturday's of the year.

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@Walkerfan said:

@PerryHall said:

@Walkerfan said:
Gold closed at about 2650 today. I think 2750 would be fair for both of you. It’s a nice, near gem, in an old fatty, so it’s worth a mere $100 premium and is certainly acceptable, IMHO.

Does the "old fatty" NGC slab bring a premium when it's damaged? The hologram is half missing which is a distraction when viewing the reverse side of the slab. Also, since CAC refused to bean it, can you really call it "near gem" without viewing it in hand?

Your points are valid but being that it's certified 64 by NGC; I feel it deserves to be priced, at least, a little over spot. $100 is less than 4% which is very minimal.

You’re conflating spot and melt. If you sell a Double Eagle for “spot”, that’s already around a 3.4% premium. $2,750 is almost $190 premium, or 7.3%.

@PeakRarities said:

@dhikewhitney said:
Well, if one thinks gold is at least not likely to go down much, and wants common date double eagles, forget about MS61-MS63, MS-64 is the value point (MS-66 is noticeably more eye appealing, but MS-65 not that much nicer than 64).

Value point for eye appeal, or premium? I think 65s have more potential upside than the 64s, especially when the spread is negligible.

This thread actually reminds me I have another 15-20 ounces of bullion to trade out for 65 saints. I’m not sure a better opportunity will present itself to exit generic bullion positions and load up on gem saints.

I’m glad I opened this thread and read through.

I’ve been slowly stacking silver for the last couple of years. My disposable income is limited so I’d have to save for many months to afford any significant gold and I don’t have the patience to do that.

So now may be the time for me to trade in some of my generic silver for some nice gold!

@lermish said:
...has the best business card I've ever seen.

That's awesome.

...has the best business card I've ever seen.

@WQuarterFreddie said:

@Colonialcoin said:
@WQuarterFreddie The day that I start collecting coins because I think that they will “soar” in value is the day that I will stop collecting coins. I bought a phenomenal Pine Tree shilling a few weeks ago and the pride of ownership, showing the coin to other collectors and teaching them about its history is what I value.

Again, I only posted the article because I thought it was interesting because it mentioned coins I never knew existed.

Surely that couldn’t have been the only reason you decided to post the article, and you didn’t make note of that reasoning in the OP. I have a hard time believing you were expecting others to be interested for the same reason 🕵️‍♂️.

@rmpsrpms said:
Might have been asked already, but does someone have a coin that was TV'd by Phil, which was subsequently GP'd later by Phil?

Supposedly that is what the first set of photos are - both shot by Phil.

WS