Today's counterfeit holder on ebay- 1899 $1 pcgs ms65

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• BillJones Posts: 35,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

  August 21, 2015 4:08AM

  Yes, the thing they put in the fake holder is not even close to looking Mint State, and it's in an MS-65 holder.
  
  They overexposed the slab pictures in an effort to cover it up, but the rub or whatever they did to the thing still shows. This looks desperate or greedy. They could have tried an AU-55 or 58 label and might have gotten away with it ... at least at a flea market.
  
  Unfortunately the certification number matches up to an 1899 dollar in PCGS MS-65. I guess they have figured that out and are now going for people who assume that the holder is good if the certification number matches.

  Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?

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• DennisH Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭✭

  August 21, 2015 4:09AM

  Reported.

  When in doubt, don't.

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• AUandAG Posts: 25,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

  August 21, 2015 4:11AM

  Oh my that is bad....just horrible.
  
  bob

  Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  

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• LanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

  August 21, 2015 4:19AM

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  the font, holder and coin ARE a joke. you boyz nailed it.
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• Goldbully Posts: 18,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

  August 21, 2015 4:32AM

  And informed folks are bidding on this coin?

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• BillJones Posts: 35,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

  August 21, 2015 4:43AM

  
  
  << <i>And informed folks are bidding on this coin? >>
  
  
  
  Well it is a somewhat hard to find date ...
  
  Seriously, though, most any collector who can grade anything should be able to look at this and see that it's not an MS-65, even if it were real. It's not even Mint State with a lot of rub on the obverse.
  
  It's just amazing how inept some people are who bid on eBay. If you know that little, you are far better off bidding on items offered by the major auction houses. At the very least they screen for counterfeits and offer protection against them.
  

  Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?

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• AUandAG Posts: 25,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

  August 21, 2015 5:26AM

  sent a note to seller and got this:
  
  Dear greatbasincoins,
  
  Thank you for the heads up...coins belong to a family member who believes that everything is authentic. We have decided to take the collection into a local coin shop have them look at everything before we go any further. If they say they are good we will relisted them, and if not...then thank you again.
  
  - purplesagebargains

  Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  

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• LindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭

  August 21, 2015 6:12AM

  Must of got their attention, as it's gone now.
  
  

  My Current project....https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/mysetregistry/album/160794

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• agentjim007 Posts: 6,256 ✭

  August 21, 2015 6:14AM

  You're getting good at this. Is this your job?

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• TopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭

  August 21, 2015 7:17AM

  
  
  << <i>You're getting good at this. Is this your job? >>
  
  eBay certainly wouldn't hire him. Too much revenue loss

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• CoinZip Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭

  August 21, 2015 7:32AM

  

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• planonit Posts: 525 ✭✭

  August 21, 2015 8:11AM

  
  
  << <i>Oh my that is bad....just horrible.
  
  bob >>
  
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  "It is my poor camera. It is MUCH BETTER IN PERSON!!"
  
  

  I have plans....sometimes

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• asheland Posts: 24,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

  August 24, 2015 5:48AM

  I wish they were all that easy to spot...

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• telephoto1 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭✭✭

  August 24, 2015 5:58AM

  You'd think they'd know better. "Imported" silver Morgan concho...
  
  Say it ain't so, Sears...!

  
  RIP Mom- 1932-2012

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• LindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭

  August 24, 2015 6:16AM

  
  
  << <i>You'd think they'd know better. "Imported" silver Morgan concho...
  
  Say it ain't so, Sears...! >>
  
  
  
  They been selling those for years.
  
  
  
  

  My Current project....https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/mysetregistry/album/160794

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