Saddle Ridge - $20 gold breakdown! Which date/MM would you get?

ElmerFusterpuck · March 9, 2014 1:42AM

I'm only listing the totals by date/MM, not conditions. Most are MS but some like the lone 1850, are circulated. Which date, if any, would you jump on when it becomes available?

1850 $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 1

1852-O $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 1

1858-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 1

1861-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 3

1862-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 3

1864-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 2

1865-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 5

1866-S $20 No Motto Saddle Ridge Hoard 1

1866-S $20 Motto Saddle Ridge Hoard 2

1867-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 4

1868-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 4

1869-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 4

1870-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 10

1871-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 4

1873 $20 Closed 3 Saddle Ridge Hoard 1

1873-S $20 Closed 3 Saddle Ridge Hoard 2

1874-CC $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 1

1874-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 8

1875-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 15

1876 $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 1

1877-CC $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 1

1877-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 26

1878-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 27

1879-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 43

1880-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 35

1881-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 38

1882-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 70

1883-CC $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 2

1883-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 46

1884-CC $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 2

1884-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 30

1885-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 21

1887-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 11

1888-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 63

1889-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 353

1890-CC $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 2

1890-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 97

1891-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 23

1892-CC $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 1

1892-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 146

1893-CC $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 1

1893-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 18

1894-S $20 Saddle Ridge Hoard 20

RYK · March 9, 2014 1:48AM

I would be interested in the 1850, a high grade 1889-S, and any with interesting rusty coloration, like the CC half eagle posted here earlier.

Unknown · March 9, 2014 1:50AM

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ranshdow · March 9, 2014 2:25AM

You know, in previous threads some have been arguing this is a hoard rather than a collection, in large part because these things were buried in cans in the ground rather than stored in velvet lined cabinets in a walk-in safe. But looking at these date runs... you're going to tell me this is a random accumulation?

Ah, to the OP's question, I really have no idea which one I would shoot for.

Unknown · March 9, 2014 2:33AM

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Staircoins · March 9, 2014 5:54AM

While not one of the coins listed by the OP, I would be interested in the 1849-D half eagle in VF30.

Think of the stories this coin has to tell ...

Cougar1978 · March 9, 2014 6:35AM

I would need to see how they grade but a couple of gems and a CC $20 or two. These coins will sell like wildfire, I sure would like to pick up a dozen or so and plan to be a serious bidder. I would love to have about 50 or 60 of them in my case at a show. I already have some gold coins from Samaszkos hoard.

What an exciting discovery, it makes me want to sell all my non gold coins and have 100% gold coins.

jrt103 · March 9, 2014 6:50AM

I would like to own any one of them.. unfortunately for me, not in my budget.

Price speculation anyone? $2500 - $10000 ++?

CaptHenway · March 9, 2014 8:15AM

Anybody got a calculator handy? I add that up in my head to 1,149 pieces. I guess the other 224 $20's did not grade.

BustHalfBrian · March 9, 2014 8:27AM

Is the number at the end the quantity of each?

tainan · March 9, 2014 8:35AM

Anyone know the date/MM breakdown of the $10's in the hoard?

ElmerFusterpuck · March 9, 2014 9:33AM

Hopefully I didn't miss anything and yes the number at the end is the number of that date/MM that graded.

Here's what I found on the $10's, the number at the end is the total graded for Saddle Ridge:

1847-O 1
1856-S 1
1872-S 1
1873-S 1
1874-S 1
1875-CC 1
1881-S 1
1882-S 2
1886-S 12
1887-S 7
1888-S 14
1892-S 1
1893-S 1

19Lyds · March 9, 2014 9:59AM

I'd take whatever the cheapest and most circulated example was that they have.

MsMorrisine · March 9, 2014 10:06AM

<< Anybody got a calculator handy? I add that up in my head to 1,149 pieces. I guess the other 224 $20's did not grade. >>

imported into a spreadsheet and it was 1149

here it is in csv

Date,MM,Denom,Variety,Pedigree,Count
1850,,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,1
1852,O,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,1
1858,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,1
1861,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,3
1862,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,3
1864,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,2
1865,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,5
1866,S,$20,No Motto,Saddle Ridge Hoard,1
1866,S,$20,Motto,Saddle Ridge Hoard,2
1867,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,4
1868,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,4
1869,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,4
1870,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,10
1871,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,4
1873,,$20,Closed 3,Saddle Ridge Hoard,1
1873,S,$20,Closed 3,Saddle Ridge Hoard,2
1874,CC,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,1
1874,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,8
1875,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,15
1876,,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,1
1877,CC,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,1
1877,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,26
1878,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,27
1879,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,43
1880,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,35
1881,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,38
1882,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,70
1883,CC,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,2
1883,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,46
1884,CC,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,2
1884,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,30
1885,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,21
1887,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,11
1888,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,63
1889,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,353
1890,CC,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,2
1890,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,97
1891,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,23
1892,CC,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,1
1892,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,146
1893,CC,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,1
1893,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,18
1894,S,$20,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,20

Date,MM,Denom,Variety,Pedigree,Count
1847,O,$10,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,1
1856,S,$10,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,1
1872,S,$10,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,1
1873,S,$10,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,1
1874,S,$10,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,1
1875,CC,$10,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,1
1881,S,$10,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,1
1882,S,$10,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,2
1886,S,$10,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,12
1887,S,$10,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,7
1888,S,$10,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,14
1892,S,$10,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,1
1893,S,$10,,Saddle Ridge Hoard,1

MsMorrisine · March 9, 2014 10:28AM

1850
1852-O
1866-S No Motto
1866-S Motto

would be a good start

tainan · March 9, 2014 11:30AM

I would love to see the $10's in hand. Of the (hopefully) affordable $10's, these stood out to me.

Justlooking · March 9, 2014 11:58AM

<< I'd take whatever the cheapest and most circulated example was that they have. >>

Agreed. I'd have to find a hoard of greenbacks in my fuzzy couch to be able to afford one of these pups.

roadrunner · March 9, 2014 12:49PM

I've been intrigued with the lack of availability of choice unc 1877-s to 1890-s Type 3 $20 Libs since 1979 when I first studied them for surviving pops. And at that time there was literally nothing in the market except
sliders and AU's. The plentiful mintages of approx 1 MILL coins per year suggested they were out there but the actual coins said otherwise. Until this hoard, they really haven't been available. I have my favorites in this
group but they are all pretty much worthwhile. Just give me anything from 63 to 64 with great eye appeal, luster, and slightly less marks that normal. I can't afford the 65's as those will be $20K to $35K. At least there
aren't as many of these as there are of the 1857-s. I recall when NERCG first ran across a MS64ish 1883-s or 1884-s back in the early to mid-1980's and proclaimed it a numismatic land mark. Now we have dozens of
choice uncs for each of these S mints.

oreville · March 9, 2014 8:46PM

an interesting set of coins.

is this an eyeball into what was available at the banks at the time these coins were buried.

ricko · March 9, 2014 9:57PM

While there are a lot of attractive coins there, I will not buy one - simply because of what will likely be the excessive premium. I do not find provenance's or special labels interesting. Cheers, RickO

dtkk49a · March 9, 2014 11:53PM

I would love to own the 1849D half eagle hands down. Man, if that coin could talk.....

joebb21 · March 12, 2014 7:18AM

A quote from Numismatic news:

"over 200 were unprofessionally cleaned by the owner" Kagin Lamented. These were slabbed by pcgs but given no grades."

This is really sad...

joebb21 · March 12, 2014 7:21AM

Im curious also how they plan to sell 1200 coins to a public that will probably be in the tens of thousands (if not more)...
Will the site crash with hundreds of people clicking to buy the same coin at the same second?

jdimmick · March 12, 2014 10:12AM

friend of mine said he was going after one of the 86-s $10 in 65-66 , I said you better have a deep check ready!

Rarity · March 12, 2014 11:14AM

Anyone knows when the Sale will begin and where ?

I would love to get 1 of any date $20 in MS62-64.

roadrunner · March 12, 2014 12:22PM

<< Anyone knows when the Sale will begin and where ?

I would love to get 1 of any date $20 in MS62-64. >>

It will be timed with the opening of the next Hunger Games sequel: "Quest For Gold." You will be able to order from Amazon right from your movie theater seat.

yosclimber · March 12, 2014 2:47PM

Thanks for posting the date/mintmark distribution.
This definitely refutes my prior theories on "leftovers" and a mint collection of their output (which would have been 1-2 of each year).

It does look more like an individual's home-stored savings.

rec78 · March 12, 2014 7:17PM

"Saddle Ridge - $20 gold breakdown! Which date/MM would you get?"

Any one I can get - just simply any old one will do - no preference -

IndianHeadMan · March 13, 2014 12:31AM

<< A quote from Numismatic news:

"over 200 were unprofessionally cleaned by the owner" Kagin Lamented. These were slabbed by pcgs but given no grades."

This is really sad... >>

I would like to know this story a little more. As someone who relic hunts, it's real easy to want to shine things up a bit and destroy all value.

kimber45ACP · March 13, 2014 3:44AM

Any CC, just to have one.

Rarity · March 13, 2014 6:53AM

<< 

<< Anyone knows when the Sale will begin and where ?

I would love to get 1 of any date $20 in MS62-64. >>

It will be timed with the opening of the next Hunger Games sequel: "Quest For Gold." You will be able to order right from your movie theatre seat. >>

CharlotteDude · March 14, 2014 10:41PM

Probably none, unless an attractive deal could be made in the secondary market after all the hoopla settles down. Although this has been an incredible find, and has brought ALOT of positive attention to numismatics, all of the coins involved (with exception of one or two) are not quite old enough for me to pay a premium for.

'dude

FullStrike · May 23, 2014 12:19PM

I diidnt see this thread before. Nice list of dates.

A couple more days to go.

northcoin · October 8, 2014 5:37AM

Elmer -

I see there were 3 1861-S Double Eagles in the Saddle Ridge Hoard. Do you know if any of those three were 1861-S Paquet coins? DaveWcoins had responded on another thread that there were no Paquets in the hoard, but Julien in a currently published article has suggested there may be one.

ElmerFusterpuck · October 8, 2014 2:25PM

<< Elmer -

I see there were 3 1861-S Double Eagles in the Saddle Ridge Hoard. Do you know if any of those three were 1861-S Paquet coins? DaveWcoins had responded on another thread that there were no Paquets in the hoard, but Julien in a currently published article has suggested there may be one. >>

I looked in the pop report which showed 3 1861-S's, one in XF-40, one in 45 and one in 50, but no Paquets.

I've seen several of the Saddle Ridge coins get reholdered in NGC holders with higher grades. I'm not sure how the resale of these is going. I know I'm enjoying my 89-S in MS-63!

northcoin · October 10, 2014 4:01AM

<< 

<< Elmer -

I see there were 3 1861-S Double Eagles in the Saddle Ridge Hoard. Do you know if any of those three were 1861-S Paquet coins? DaveWcoins had responded on another thread that there were no Paquets in the hoard, but Julien in a currently published article has suggested there may be one. >>

I looked in the pop report which showed 3 1861-S's, one in XF-40, one in 45 and one in 50, but no Paquets.

I've seen several of the Saddle Ridge coins get reholdered in NGC holders with higher grades. I'm not sure how the resale of these is going. I know I'm enjoying my 89-S in MS-63!

>>

Thanks for the informative response. I suspect it may be the question posed by me regarding the Paquet in the first thread that was posted here on this forum regarding the Saddle Ridge Hoard that left the impression there was a Paquet in the Saddle Ridge Hoard. Here is the recent quote that suggested there may have been a 1861-S Pqquet in the Saddle Ridge Hoard:

"The Paquet double eagle is one of the most sought-after pieces in the series [of Liberty Head Double Eagles] and the recently discovered Saddle Ridge Hoard is said to have contained one of these rare coins."

October, 2014, "COINage" article titled, "The Other Double Eagle" by R.W. Julian at page 44.

The First Saddle Ridge Hoard thread & Paquet inquiry

Saddle Ridge - $20 gold breakdown! Which date/MM would you get?

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