1938 Proof Walking Liberty (Could it CAM?)

aus3000tin · December 18, 2011 3:43AM

I recently purchased this coin on Teletrade certified by ANACS.

Teletrade Auction Link

I also found a link on ANACS about the coin being certified.

ANACS Coin Article

If I were to have PCGS certify the coin, then would they put "re-engraved rays" on the slab?
Do I have to request this?
Do I send the coin still slabbed from ANACS?
Does the "re-engraved rays" placed on the slab an extra cost?

Sorry for all the questions. I just want to cover all the bases.

Thanks,

Chris

crypto79 · December 18, 2011 4:44AM

I don't known about the rays but well bought on the coin. It has a lot of contrast and you bought well below retail

CarlWohlforth · December 18, 2011 4:46AM

Wow, I'd like to see that Walker in person. I wonder and hope it is as frosty as those photos imply.

Sorry, no answers for your questions...

UNCOnly · December 18, 2011 6:14AM

<< I recently purchased this coin on Teletrade certified by ANACS.

Teletrade Auction Link

I also found a link on ANACS about the coin being certified.

ANACS Coin Article

If I were to have PCGS certify the coin, then would they put "re-engraved rays" on the slab?
Do I have to request this?
Do I send the coin still slabbed from ANACS?
Does the "re-engraved rays" placed on the slab an extra cost?

Sorry for all the questions. I just want to cover all the bases.

Thanks,

Chris >>

If having the "re-engraved rays" is that important you on the label, I would leave it as is.

Loupe · December 18, 2011 6:18AM

There's probably a reason it's in a ANACS slab. And while I can't say for certain, it may just be tooled. Also, if PCGS doesn't list it as a variety, then it cannot be noted on the holder (for the additional fee).

UNCOnly · December 18, 2011 6:36AM

<< There's probably a reason it's in a ANACS slab. And while I can't say for certain, it may just be tooled. Also, if PCGS doesn't list it as a variety, then it cannot be noted on the holder (for the additional fee). >>

My opinion, it won't cross over with that on the label.

CaptHenway · December 18, 2011 6:40AM

Not familiar with the die re-engraving on the 1938 Proof halves. Reminds me of the 1938 Proof nickel dies with the re-engraved serifs.

cmerlo1 · December 18, 2011 6:43AM

At the B&M here, there is a 1939 proof with hand-engraved designer's initials, similar to the 1944-D variety... If I could afford to buy it, I would.

aus3000tin · May 8, 2012 11:11AM

May 8, 2012, Update: After looking the coin over, I don't seem to see a designer's initials on the reverse. I know the 1941 is commonly found without initials, but is the 1938 found without initials?

Thanks,

Chris

mkman123 · May 8, 2012 11:59AM

Almost looks cameoish......the sun in the teletrade link looks frosted

WoodenJefferson · May 8, 2012 12:39PM

There appears to be some remnants of AW's initials, not quite sure what is going on there and yes, re-engraved rays are a variety and so noted by ANACS, but I do not think it is carried by the other top tier grading companies.

Good question for our host to answer unless one of the members has had one noted as such.

Nice proof Walker.

lasvegasteddy · May 8, 2012 12:42PM

there appears to be some remnants of AW's initials...
in this crowd too as i see um...

aus3000tin · May 5, 2013 9:58AM

May 5, 2013: Does anyone think this would CAM at PCGS?

Thanks,

Chris

Jcarney · May 5, 2013 10:07AM

<< There's probably a reason it's in a ANACS slab. And while I can't say for certain, it may just be tooled. Also, if PCGS doesn't list it as a variety, then it cannot be noted on the holder (for the additional fee). >>

Tooled?

Really?

Damn, why do people bump such old threads.

To answer your question, no. Not a chance. Not even a little, itty, bitty chance.

SeattleSlammer · May 5, 2013 11:38AM

<< 

<< There's probably a reason it's in a ANACS slab. And while I can't say for certain, it may just be tooled. Also, if PCGS doesn't list it as a variety, then it cannot be noted on the holder (for the additional fee). >>

Tooled?

Really?

Damn, why do people bump such old threads.

To answer your question, no. Not a chance. Not even a little, itty, bitty chance. >>

Maybe because the OP didn't get an answer so he bumped it? Nothing wrong with that. I agree that there's no way it would CAM.

Taylor101 · May 5, 2013 12:01PM

Them pictures really bring out the bad things on the coin. It probably looks less bad in hand.

Taylor

blu62vette · May 5, 2013 12:34PM

That sun may hold it back.

RichieURich · May 5, 2013 12:50PM

The only way to get a Walker to CAM at PCGS is for the sun to be frosted just as the portrait and the rest of the devices are.

I can't tell from the pic whether or not the sun is frosted, but you have the coin in hand and can answer that question. Either way, it is still a nice coin.

magikbilly · May 5, 2013 12:59PM

Yup - frosty sun.
Carl W. showed me some pics back in 2006 or so of a Pr Walker (1942 I think) with a frosty or nearly fully frosty sun. I was an amazing coin!

Eric

Frankcoins · May 5, 2013 1:37PM

Dammit, why don't they disallow adding new comments to messages that are this old? I don't know how much
time I have wasted looking through my books for something so old it's no longer relevant.

But as far as the flakeyness of grading services designating these as CAM or DCAM, I thought the
following Google suggestion was funny

nankraut · May 5, 2013 2:00PM

<< Dammit, why don't they disallow adding new comments to messages that are this old? I don't know how much
time I have wasted looking through my books for something so old it's no longer relevant.

But as far as the flakeyness of grading services designating these as CAM or DCAM, I thought the
following Google suggestion was funny

>>

Good one, Frank!

SkyMan · May 5, 2013 3:22PM

<< Yup - frosty sun.
Carl W. showed me some pics back in 2006 or so of a Pr Walker (1942 I think) with a frosty or nearly fully frosty sun. I was an amazing coin!

Eric >>

FWIW, here's Carl's website. (I'm glad it's still up). It has pictures of the Walker, which is graded NGC PR66CAMEO. If you click on the pictures they will "blow up". Aus3000tin, you can judge your coin against the images and decide what you think with regards to the likelihood of your coin Cameo'ing.

Link

magikbilly · May 5, 2013 3:42PM

<< 

<< Yup - frosty sun.
Carl W. showed me some pics back in 2006 or so of a Pr Walker (1942 I think) with a frosty or nearly fully frosty sun. I was an amazing coin!

Eric >>

FWIW, here's Carl's website. (I'm glad it's still up). It has pictures of the Walker, which is graded NGC PR66CAMEO. If you click on the pictures they will "blow up". Aus3000tin, you can judge your coin against the images and decide what you think with regards to the likelihood of your coin Cameo'ing.

Link >>

Hi,

Thanks. I don't believe that is the coin I saw though - certainly not the same pics.

Best wishes,
Eric

aus3000tin · August 17, 2013 12:52PM

Thanks Skyman for the link.

It looks like the 1938 Proof Walking Liberty, from the link, also exhibits the re-engraved rays.

Thanks,

Chris

roadrunner · August 17, 2013 1:31PM

It's possible the frost was enhanced. I've been leery of ANACS cameo proofs ever since I purchased a "beautiful" DCAM PF65 seated quarter out of a January FUN auction for less money
than I thought it should have brought. Looked closer to 66 DCAM. The coin was returned by NGC as being altered surfaces (ie frosted). While I couldn't spot the difference I figured
they knew more than me. I flipped the coin away at a slight loss and moved on. Now the only frosting I get excited about is on my Frosted Flakes.

1938 Proof Walking Liberty (Could it CAM?)

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