The "official" how to send a giant box of ten 25th Anniversary Sets to PCGS for the lowest

coinkid855 · November 9, 2011 12:33AM

What do you guys think would be the cheapest/best option? I'm thinking, from what I've heard, the two boxes MIGHT fit in an 18x18x16 box. The insurance through USPS is so expensive though....Are there any alternatives that i could use for just this one package?

-Paul

Egger · November 9, 2011 12:35AM

I can tell you though, the heavier and bigger box items, it's better to use fedex or ups, they are cheaper than usps

OPA · November 9, 2011 12:40AM

<< I can tell you though, the heavier and bigger box items, it's better to use fedex or ups, they are cheaper than usps >>

True, but will they insure them...I believe FEDEX does not insure coins...

coinkid855 · November 9, 2011 12:40AM

It looks like Priority mail and Fedex ground would be just about the same, but the Priority Mail would half half the insurance ($5000) that the Fedex package would have, but it'd likely get there faster....

-Paul

coinkid855 · November 9, 2011 12:41AM

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<< I can tell you though, the heavier and bigger box items, it's better to use fedex or ups, they are cheaper than usps >>

True, but will they insure them...I believe FEDEX does not insure coins... >>

Oh, well that sucks. Lol

-Paul

GBurger717 · November 9, 2011 12:43AM

Just to let you know ONLY USPS insures coins that are lost. Fed Ex, UPS and all the others dont so it might be worth it to pay a few extra bucks

derryb · November 9, 2011 12:48AM

box of five is reported to be 15 x 11.5 x 8.5, too large for any flat rate box. Gonna have to go USPS registered to fully insure. Either a single large box or all of the mint boxes taped together and then wrapped with brown kraft paper and sealed, as required, with glue back brown paper tape. I'll be going the single box to hold four boxes of five, registered insured route. OUCH!

blu62vette · November 9, 2011 12:50AM

For me it would depend where I am sending it. Overnight would cover the insurance because your receipt is for 3k.

commoncents05 · November 9, 2011 12:52AM

Get a third party insurer and send them FedEx.

-Paul

hammer1 · November 9, 2011 12:56AM

Fedex max insurance on coins is $1,000.

Cakes · November 9, 2011 1:45AM

<< box of five is reported to be 15 x 11.5 x 8.5, too large for any flat rate box. Gonna have to go USPS registered to fully insure. Either a single large box or all of the mint boxes taped together and then wrapped with brown kraft paper and sealed, as required, with glue back brown paper tape. I'll be going the single box to hold four boxes of five, registered insured route. OUCH! >>

While I love USPS registered it can be pretty slow.

Neocoin · November 9, 2011 1:54AM

Ready for duty.

JimDepot · November 9, 2011 1:57AM

Take the family to Disney World in January.

The FUN show is also in Orlando, 5th thru the 8th.

coasterfan · November 9, 2011 2:00AM

If an insured loss claim against USPS is necessary, do you need to show receipts to justify the insured amount and will they only pay the purchase price and not the current market value?

Neocoin · November 9, 2011 2:02AM

<< If an insured loss claim against USPS is necessary, do you need to show receipts to justify the insured amount and will they only pay the purchase price and not the current market value? >>

I don't no for sure but I would say you would only be reimbursed for your actual payment to the Mint.

JohnInLBC · November 9, 2011 2:05AM

<<box of five is reported to be 15 x 11.5 x 8.5, too large for any flat rate box. Gonna have to go USPS registered to fully insure. Either a single large box or all of the mint boxes taped together and then wrapped with brown kraft paper and sealed, as required, with glue back brown paper tape. I'll be going the single box to hold four boxes of five, registered insured route. OUCH!>>

That's going to be over 60 lbs. Maybe a box the size of a mini-fridge. Let us know the dimensions. Wow, that is going to take a lot of brown paper tape. Only if they could sell them the size of a paper towel roll. Best of luck to you!!

mbogoman · November 9, 2011 2:05AM

Since PCGS killed "Collector Fridays" (Boooooooooooooooooooo!!!!), I'm seriously thinking of driving up to the Newport Beach Post office and dropping off my shipment there. I'll use whatever is the cheapest insured method. After all, they are just going to take it from the counter and put it into PCGS's box...

derryb · November 9, 2011 2:08AM

I calculated four boxes of five in a single outer box (approx. 23x16x18) mailed registered, insured for $16K would cost around $100.
Priority mailing fee because of the weight, 50 lbs going about 5 postal zones away (65.05)
Registered fee to include $16K insurance (37.05) - insurance is cheaper with Priority Registered vs. Priority
Electronic Return receipt (1.15)

If shipped priority without adding extra service of Registered, the insurance costs go much higher.

USPS Price List

erickso1 · November 9, 2011 2:10AM

That's a big box though.

pitboss · November 9, 2011 2:16AM

Registered is the way to go.

Insurance is much cheaper and it moves fast enough to get there in plenty of time.

The safety factor alone is worth the trouble.

Batman23 · November 9, 2011 2:21AM

I have seen two box sizes posted so far for a 5 set box.

One at 15 x 11.5 x 8.5
and one at 14.5 x 11 x 8 weighing 15.25 pounds.

Can anyone else confirm the size?

BAJJERFAN · November 9, 2011 2:30AM

<< If an insured loss claim against USPS is necessary, do you need to show receipts to justify the insured amount and will they only pay the purchase price and not the current market value? >>

I was told by one person who filed a $300 claim for a lost coin that he was told that he would probably not even get reimbursed for the $300. There was also a post awhile back where the poster said that he was NOT paid anywhere near what he had insured a coin for. I'd be asking if there is some sort of change that has been made to their coin insurance coverage.

coasterfan · November 9, 2011 2:32AM

Anyone going to drop them off at the Santa Clara show? That's what I'm planning to do. Wouldn't that be the safest route since PCGS will be accepting my submission.

Batman23 · November 9, 2011 2:33AM

Two months ago I did a price comparison using USPS.com for a 10 pound box with $3000 insurance from me to a BST buyer. I came up with the following:

Standard Priority & insured: $85.50 Special online rate: $81.11
Registered Priority & insured: $71.90 Special online rate: Not available
Express & insured: $82.75 Special online rate: $67.43

I sent it Express with the online rate. The best service for the lowest rate!

CoinCrazyPA · November 9, 2011 2:35AM

Will PCGS be at Baltimore? And accept these?

derryb · November 9, 2011 2:59AM

<< Two months ago I did a price comparison using USPS.com for a 10 pound box with $3000 insurance from me to a BST buyer. I came up with the following:

Standard Priority & insured: $85.50 Special online rate: $81.11
Registered Priority & insured: $71.90 Special online rate: Not available
Express & insured: $82.75 Special online rate: $67.43

I sent it Express with the online rate. The best service for the lowest rate! >>

Registered priority insured for 10 lbs @ $3K insurance only costs about $49:
10lbs priority to the fartherest US destination (8 zones) = 31.60
Registered fee with $3k insurance = 17.45

If it would fit, a medium priority flat rate box sent registered would have saved about $20 more. Alot of people don't realize you can take advantage of priority flat rate discount when shipping registered.

Price List

BAJJERFAN · November 9, 2011 3:07AM

<< Will PCGS be at Baltimore? And accept these? >>

My understanding is that PCGS will not accept sealed boxes at shows. Why should they pay all that $$ to ship them back? They did not say that they will accept them as opened if they witness them being opened however so you might ask about that option.

coasterfan · November 9, 2011 3:18AM

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<< Will PCGS be at Baltimore? And accept these? >>

My understanding is that PCGS will not accept sealed boxes at shows. Why should they pay all that $$ to ship them back? They did not say that they will accept them as opened if they witness them being opened however so you might ask about that option. >>

Ideally, they would also let you take back all of the OGP material. It saves them from having to transport all that bulky stuff.

Now that I think about it, that's how I did my UHR First Strike submission. So PCGS will do that.

fiveNdime · November 9, 2011 3:25AM

<< I'm seriously thinking of driving up to the Newport Beach Post office and dropping off my shipment there. >>

is this REALLY an option?
i was gonna post an ask thread... but didnt want to start yet another ASE 25th anniversary XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

i would do that! (to keep 1 set ungraded)

Justacommeman · November 9, 2011 3:32AM

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<< Will PCGS be at Baltimore? And accept these? >>

My understanding is that PCGS will not accept sealed boxes at shows. Why should they pay all that $$ to ship them back? They did not say that they will accept them as opened if they witness them being opened however so you might ask about that option. >>

This was from Don Willis in his thread:

Will PCGS accept submission of sealed sets at upcoming coin shows? - YES unless we run out of space.

MJ

mbogoman · November 9, 2011 3:34AM

<< << I'm seriously thinking of driving up to the Newport Beach Post office and dropping off my shipment there. >>

is this REALLY an option? i was gonna post an ask thread... but didnt want to start yet another ASE 25th anniversary XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX i would do that! (to keep 1 set ungraded) >>

I'm only 60 miles south of Newport, so it is viable. I will probably have a fairly large box, so it is also about a wash cost-wise and I won't have to worry about it being "lost" in the mail

coasterfan · November 9, 2011 3:38AM

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<< Will PCGS be at Baltimore? And accept these? >>

My understanding is that PCGS will not accept sealed boxes at shows. Why should they pay all that $$ to ship them back? They did not say that they will accept them as opened if they witness them being opened however so you might ask about that option. >>

This was from Don Willis in his thread:

Will PCGS accept submission of sealed sets at upcoming coin shows? - YES unless we run out of space.

MJ >>

The early bird gets the worm.

I would be there right when the show opens.

lightcycler · November 9, 2011 3:38AM

<< box of five is reported to be 15 x 11.5 x 8.5, too large for any flat rate box. Gonna have to go USPS registered to fully insure. Either a single large box or all of the mint boxes taped together and then wrapped with brown kraft paper and sealed, as required, with glue back brown paper tape. I'll be going the single box to hold four boxes of five, registered insured route. OUCH! >>

Thats the conclusion I came to. Was going to send 5 boxes of 5 but that will be over the 70 lb limit. I'll sell the sealed set of 5 and just send the 4 boxes. Thats enough anyway damn the FS fees. I was hoping only two were elegible.

joefro · November 9, 2011 3:39AM

Do you have to be a PCGS member to submit coins at coin shows, or can anyone walk up and pay the fees to have a coin graded and slabbed?

Jesh · November 9, 2011 3:40AM

I use third party insurance: shipandinsure.com it's recommended by the green bean factory, too...

I'm wondering how I'm going to express that box! haha!

Zubie · November 9, 2011 3:40AM

I live in the So Cal area, can I drive to PCGS and drop these off in person instead of shipping a giant box?

BAJJERFAN · November 9, 2011 3:44AM

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<< Will PCGS be at Baltimore? And accept these? >>

My understanding is that PCGS will not accept sealed boxes at shows. Why should they pay all that $$ to ship them back? They did not say that they will accept them as opened if they witness them being opened however so you might ask about that option. >>

This was from Don Willis in his thread:

Will PCGS accept submission of sealed sets at upcoming coin shows? - YES unless we run out of space.

MJ >>

I thought there was an earlier comment saying they wouldn't accept them at shows. My error. They must be planning on renting a U-Haul!!

derryb · November 9, 2011 3:52AM

I'm aware of a 70 lb limit on large flat rate priority box. Does it also apply to all packages?

mbogoman · November 9, 2011 3:53AM

<< I live in the So Cal area, can I drive to PCGS and drop these off in person instead of shipping a giant box? >>

Only in our memory...

The answer is: No.

PCGS used to hold "Collector Fridays" where you drop off your submission in person. They ended the practice a couple months ago, much to my dismay (and many others)

coinkid855 · November 9, 2011 3:58AM

<< I'm aware of a 70 lb limit on large flat rate priority box. Does it also apply to all packages? >>

The boxes from the mint won't fit in any of the flat rate boxes.

-Paul

lightcycler · November 9, 2011 4:07AM

<< I'm aware of a 70 lb limit on large flat rate priority box. Does it also apply to all packages? >>

When I put in 77lbs it brought up an error message that it was over the 70lb limit. I had checked Priority (not flat rate)

derryb · November 9, 2011 4:08AM

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<< I'm aware of a 70 lb limit on large flat rate priority box. Does it also apply to all packages? >>

The boxes from the mint won't fit in any of the flat rate boxes.
-Paul >>

that has been established, my question was because of this comment: "Was going to send 5 boxes of 5 but that will be over the 70 lb limit."

Back to my question, does 70lb limit apply to all packages?

coasterfan · November 9, 2011 4:09AM

<< I thought there was an earlier comment saying they wouldn't accept them at shows. My error. They must be planning on renting a U-Haul!!

>>

Across the street is not accepting sealed sets at coin shows. PCGS, on the other hand, is gving great service to its customers.

coasterfan · November 9, 2011 4:12AM

<< Do you have to be a PCGS member to submit coins at coin shows, or can anyone walk up and pay the fees to have a coin graded and slabbed? >>

You have to either be a member or go through a dealer who will submit it for you.

lkeigwin · November 9, 2011 4:26AM

<< Anyone going to drop them off at the Santa Clara show? That's what I'm planning to do. Wouldn't that be the safest route since PCGS will be accepting my submission. >>

Yup, that's what I'm doing. No packing, no insurance, no shipping.
Lance.

relicsncoins · November 9, 2011 4:38AM

Did I read it correctly, to add First Strike to the label is an additional $17 per coin?

OPA · November 9, 2011 4:43AM

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<< I thought there was an earlier comment saying they wouldn't accept them at shows. My error. They must be planning on renting a U-Haul!!

>>

Across the street is not accepting sealed sets at coin shows. PCGS, on the other hand, is gving great service to its customers. >>

The comment about accepting these monster boxes at coin shows was made before anyone realized the size. I suspect they will change their mind very shortly and follow in NGC's footstep.

19Lyds · November 9, 2011 4:43AM

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<< Anyone going to drop them off at the Santa Clara show? That's what I'm planning to do. Wouldn't that be the safest route since PCGS will be accepting my submission. >>

Yup, that's what I'm doing. No packing, no insurance, no shipping.
Lance. >>

This sounds like a great Plan.

We need to BE SURE that these will be accepted for grading though because, in the past, they were not accepted.

I still only want to get 4 of the 5 sets actually graded though. I hope that won't be a problem.

derryb · November 9, 2011 4:46AM

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<< I thought there was an earlier comment saying they wouldn't accept them at shows. My error. They must be planning on renting a U-Haul!!

>>

Across the street is not accepting sealed sets at coin shows. PCGS, on the other hand, is gving great service to its customers. >>

The comment about accepting these monster boxes at coin shows was made before anyone realized the size. I suspect they will change their mind very shortly and follow in NGC's footstep. >>

I believe the comment "space permitting" was used by PCGS.

OPA · November 9, 2011 4:49AM

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<< I thought there was an earlier comment saying they wouldn't accept them at shows. My error. They must be planning on renting a U-Haul!!

>>

Across the street is not accepting sealed sets at coin shows. PCGS, on the other hand, is gving great service to its customers. >>

The comment about accepting these monster boxes at coin shows was made before anyone realized the size. I suspect they will change their mind very shortly and follow in NGC's footstep. >>

I believe the comment "space permitting" was used by PCGS. >>

ok...so the first 5-10 early birds at each show may get a crack at saving $25 in postage...I think, I'll take my chance with the USPS.

derryb · November 9, 2011 4:53AM

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<< I thought there was an earlier comment saying they wouldn't accept them at shows. My error. They must be planning on renting a U-Haul!!

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Across the street is not accepting sealed sets at coin shows. PCGS, on the other hand, is gving great service to its customers. >>

The comment about accepting these monster boxes at coin shows was made before anyone realized the size. I suspect they will change their mind very shortly and follow in NGC's footstep. >>

I believe the comment "space permitting" was used by PCGS. >>

ok...so the first 5-10 early birds at each show may get a crack at saving $25 in postage...I think, I'll take my chance with the USPS. >>

And those that don't get to submit will have to carry them around all day.

The "official" how to send a giant box of ten 25th Anniversary Sets to PCGS for the lowest

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