Prong holders.....Has anyone else thought of this??

DIMEMAN · July 11, 2011 6:54AM

I don't like the prong holders because of looks.

BUT

Has anyone else thought about what those area's under the prong's will look like after years of being covered. When broken out or left raw those area's will have aged differently than the rest of the coin and the coin will look like it has 4 or 3 (PCGS) little strips of different color around the edge.

What say ye forum members???

llafoe · July 11, 2011 6:56AM

No

DIMEMAN · July 11, 2011 6:59AM

Boy Larry, you are quick. Do you have access to internet when on patrols??

stealer · July 11, 2011 6:59AM

Isn't it the same with the non-prong PCGS and NGC holders? Don't the inserts in those slabs already cover part of the coin?

llafoe · July 11, 2011 7:02AM

<< Boy Larry, you are quick. Do you have access to internet when on patrols??

>>

I got divorced because I was too quick!

DIMEMAN · July 11, 2011 7:02AM

Regular slabs don't cover any of the obv. & rev. just up against the edge.

crypto79 · July 11, 2011 7:02AM

Pros outweigh the cons. I am glad PCGS decided to update their holder as they did.

DIMEMAN · July 11, 2011 7:07AM

I see NO pros. And PCGS only puts coins with edge lettering in prong holders.

Zoins · July 11, 2011 7:10AM

Also it seems that the smaller the coin, the more intrusive the prongs appear, i.e. cover up a larger % of the faces.

messydesk · July 11, 2011 7:14AM

<< What say ye forum members??? >>

We all know that what will be most important generations from now is the fact that the label says "First Strike™."

Has anyone gassed a hockey puck yet to see what effect the insert has on the toning pattern?

Zoins · July 11, 2011 7:15AM

<< Has anyone gassed a hockey puck yet to see what effect the insert has on the toning pattern? >>

I thought the theory was that only worked on old holders?

ctf_error_coins · July 11, 2011 7:16AM

I can't stand prong holders because it make photographing the WHOLE coin impossible.

I like the art of coin photography and talk about making art ugly ....... geeeez

questor54 · July 11, 2011 7:33AM

<< I see NO pros. And PCGS only puts coins with edge lettering in prong holders. >>

Not completely accurate - they are also used for the coins graded at the Paris office.

19Lyds · July 11, 2011 7:34AM

As near a I can tell, NGC is addressing some of these issues by reducing the footprint of the prongs in both width AND the amount of space that overlaps the coins.

At least that what I see on some recent Kennedy Purchases.

airplanenut · July 11, 2011 7:38AM

<< Regular slabs don't cover any of the obv. & rev. just up against the edge. >>

They certainly do on some coins, and that's the case for PCGS, NGC, and ANACS. If this caused a problem, it would be known by now. Besides, exactly how much does a coin in a PCGS holder change?

BillJones · July 11, 2011 7:44AM

<< Pros outweigh the cons. I am glad PCGS decided to update their holder as they did. >>

Oh but PCGS does have slabs with prongs .. here is one. I wish they would use it more often on pieces with edge lettering.

DIMEMAN · July 11, 2011 7:45AM

They (PCGS) don't change much, but ANY change would leave a footprint. And to me that would not be wanted at all.

Zoins · July 11, 2011 7:47AM

<< I can't stand prong holders because it make photographing the WHOLE coin impossible.

I like the art of coin photography and talk about making art ugly ....... geeeez >>

I agree in-slab photos seem to be an issue for edge view holders. I haven't seen a good solution for this yet.

DIMEMAN · July 11, 2011 7:56AM

Bill - From what I understand PCGS has gone to the prong for coins with edge lettering.

Does the 1794 cent have edge lettering????

COALPORTER · July 11, 2011 8:01AM

I used to cry over my coins getting blue album tone, now there are ninnies paying extra for that !! so, it's all how you spin it ! Who knows, maybe in 30 years people will go ape over NGC prongy marks?

LindeDad · July 11, 2011 8:03AM

Not too intrusive iMO. And I really don't think it will effect toning that much.

BillJones · July 11, 2011 10:15PM

<< Bill - From what I understand PCGS has gone to the prong for coins with edge lettering.

Does the 1794 cent have edge lettering???? >>

All genuine 1794 and some 1795 large cents have edge lettering. The edge devices were very important for a few of the coins that were in the Dan Holmes sale. There was a 1795 large cent with a reeded edge (lot 128) that is the finest known of seven examples. It sold for something over half a million dollars. Obviously a holder that showed at least most of the edge was a requirement for this piece.

One dealer told me that PCGS was using this type of holder in Europe. I don’t know if that is an “urban legend,” but it would be good if PCGS could do it for 18th and early 19th century U.S. coins that have edge letting. The clear prongs are better than the white prongs NGC uses IMO.

Bankerbob56 · July 11, 2011 11:58PM

<< Boy Larry, you are quick. Do you have access to internet when on patrols??

>>

Larry, what do you do for a living? You respond quickly to postings?!

ctf_error_coins · July 12, 2011 12:16AM

Wow nice error coin, your coin has 6 large Cuds on it

<< Not too intrusive iMO. And I really don't think it will effect toning that much.

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robkool · July 12, 2011 1:01AM

I personally don't like'em...

BBQnBLUES · July 12, 2011 2:34AM

<< I personally don't like'em... >>

Well, I HATE em.. they distract from the coin !

BillJones · July 12, 2011 5:10AM

I've gotten used to them.

It would be great idea if both services offered the clean prongs that PCGS uses for some pieces.

Edscoin · July 12, 2011 8:50AM

Won't be long before we have Prong Toning!

Zoins · July 12, 2011 8:52AM

<< Won't be long before we have Prong Toning!

>>

Tab toning for a new century!

ambro51 · July 12, 2011 12:04PM

I like the new prong revision on the kennedy halves posted. A positive approach I suppose they had finally heard eNuff about the prongs and made a move.

Frankly I wish they had the original complete white holder available as an "option".

Zoins · July 12, 2011 12:13PM

I agree they should have the original non-prong holder as an option. This could be a win-win as they would make their customers happy and also generate more revenues via re-holder fees.

Prong holders.....Has anyone else thought of this??

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