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Attention Dealers. Probable Fraud Alert.

nencoinnencoin Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭✭
Over the last two weeks, we've received three suspicious web orders. All three provided a credit card which generated a No Match on the billing/shipping address. Attempts to contact via phone failed. (I won't provide the phone numbers publicly as they are legit numbers, but apparently belong to other people.) Emails to them were not returned (all three had Yahoo email addresses). The three orders are obviously connected, as you can see below.

April 3rd order:

Veronica Acuna
11242 Rockfield Drive
Aracadia, CA 91006
IP address 68.121.241.250


April 5th order:

Richard Guerra
7214 Berne
S. San Gabriel, CA 91770
IP address 68.121.241.250


April 15th order:

Tina Guerra
9852 La Docena Ln
Pico Rivera, CA 90660
IP address 68.121.246.91


This person or persons is moving around quite a bit. The same person likely placed each order, as the typing is the same. All lower case, phone numbers crammed together without dashes, abbreviations the same.

Attempts at credit card fraud are not unusual at all. What is unusual is what they ordered. One was a Type One O-Mint Gold Dollar for under $400, one was a VF Trade Dollar in an ANACS holder for under $200, and today's order was for a Morgan Dollar for under $200. Not the usual types of coins (cheap, and mostly non-gold) crooks tend to order with presumably stolen credit cards.

Please be sure to keep an eye out for orders from this area!


Comments

  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    Thank you for posting that! Just took an order like that today but have not confirmed whether it's real or not. It's an unconfirmed address on paypal with no phone number to california.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great alert... certainly looks like one or more individuals are on a tear.... some will get hurt. Cheers, RickO
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,992 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>April 15th order:

    Tina Guerra
    9852 La Docena Ln
    Pico Rivera, CA 90660 >>




    not a valid address.

    county property records do not show a 9852, nor does the usps site recognize it.

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • nencoinnencoin Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭✭
    Bump and a quick update. We confirmed with two of the three credit card companies from the above orders that the credit card numbers are indeed stolen. And get this...the Richard Guerra guy just ordered another coin yesterday. Actually, he ordered the same coin that Veronica Acuna ordered on April 3rd. And he's still using the 7214 Berne address!

    <sigh>

  • ianrussellianrussell Posts: 2,498 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thank you for posting.

    - Ian
    Ian Russell
    Owner/Founder GreatCollections
    GreatCollections Coin Auctions - Certified Coin Auctions Every Week - Rare Coins & Coin Values
  • fiveNdimefiveNdime Posts: 1,088 ✭✭
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    << <i>Attempts at credit card fraud are not unusual at all.
    ... for under $400 >>


    i think the CC warning/alert limit is $400, which is why the crook(s) stay below that amount.
    BST transactions: guitarwes; glmmcowan; coiny; nibanny; messydesk
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image




    << <i>Attempts at credit card fraud are not unusual at all.
    ... for under $400 >>


    i think the CC warning/alert limit is $400, which is why the crook(s) stay below that amount. >>

    Ugh!

    Smart enough to beat the system but not smart enough to earn a living and do it right?
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!

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