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150 years ago South Carolina issued its Ordinance of Seccession. A few days later it issued a Declaration of Causes.

Up until this point, it was thought by many Northerners that the tough talk of the Southerners could be compromised and that they wouldn't go this far. Now the idea of war became stronger.




This is one of the "Wealth of the South" tokens. They were struck in Cincinnati with the hope to sell them to Northerners and Southerners during the Presidential election of 1860. They were not circulating tokens, rather they are medals. "Collect them all!" might have been the sales phrase.


Post some other "Wealth of the South tokens" - lets see if we can get a whole set listed.



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That is a very cool token

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This is the only Wealth of the South token I have


1860 Wealth of the South F- 511/514 B NGC MS63



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Post a Civil War Token

Here's one with a mighty bold statement...



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This is also an important topic of the time before shots were fired:



John Adams Dix

In May 1860 he became postmaster of New York City, and from January until March 1861 he was secretary of the treasury of the United States, in which capacity he issued (January 29, 1861) to a revenue officer at New Orleans a famous order containing the words, "if any one attempts to haul down the American flag, shoot him on the spot."



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Here are the candidates:




Lincoln is missing, for now.


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Sorry, pictures are a tad off.

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Robert Lovett....to be a major figure post civil war in CSA numismatics.....had made a storecard in 1860 for his own use. Struck in a variety of metals, the copper nickel example here shares a very common look with the yet to be created CSA cent.



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Here are the obverse and reverse of couple of rare Lincoln tokens.





The gold filled one is variety 129/349. The white metal piece is 130/347. Both are R-9 rated (2 to 4) although I can tell you that they are not quite that rare.

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Here is the last of the "Wealth of the South" 1860 presidential candidates set, a Lincoln with an unusual reverse ... I like the hole in this one because it shows that the piece was probably used during the campaign unlike some others that were struck after the election. The Fuld number is 506/512mp.



All Civil War tokens are supposed to be dated during the war years from 1861 to 1864, but these Wealth of the South tokens have been included in the set.

Here is the other Lincoln obverse variety, 506/610Aa. There is slight difference in the spacing of the lettering, and there is a period after "ILL."



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People as if there were any pro-southern Civil War tokens. There were, but since there were very few die sinkers in the South, all of them were made in northern territory. Collectors call them the "unpatriotics" or copperheads. Here are some of the varieties.

A Wealth of the South piece, 511/518. This one has hole and has the rare 518 reverse die. I could see this one on some loyal southern's shirt or coat.



The obverse of this looks like a patriotic token, but the reverse with "Peace Forever" tells a different story.



And this one with the farm products and the motto "Live and let Live" is also a copperhead.



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Henry Cook









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Excuse the poor pic.
Found in pile of cents and sent in to ANACS





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<< Henry Cook



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I was not aware that Henry Cook piece. Thanks for posting it. I'd like to find one those.

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<<

<< Henry Cook

I was not aware that Henry Cook piece. Thanks for posting it. I'd like to find one those. >>





When I bought it from the Stacks Auction, this information was with it.


Here is a very high quality, generously sized (42mm) and somewhat belligerent token, both numismatic and patriotic.
Henry Cook, who would become one of America’s first rare coin dealers, was born in Abington, MA, in 1821,
a seventh-generation Mayflower descendant.

He moved to Boston when he was 16 years old and gained employment with a company in the export trade.
At the age of 21 he was sent to South America to handle the firm’s interests on the west coast there.
Later he served as mate aboard a sailing vessel which traded along that coast and with islands in the Pacific.

By the 1840s he was an avid coin collector.

In the 1850s he relinquished seafaring for the security of an on-land occupation in Boston, and entered the boot and shoe trade
at 74 Friend Street.
He was fond of looking through copper half cents and cents in circulation and picking out scarce dates which he displayed in a counter in his shoe shop.
It seems that he was active in the rare coin business by the mid-1850s.

Circa 1862 he commissioned a selection of patriotic medals to be struck from his own designs, with dies by George H. Lovett.
In 1866, still located in his shoe shop-with-coins at 74 Friend Street, Cook advertised as: “Numismatist and antiquarian.
Rare and antique coins, medals, autographs, books, &c., bought, sold and exchanged.
Cabinets arranged and catalogued for public sale in Boston or New York.
Also, purchases made at all the coin and book sales in either of the above mentioned cities, on commission.”

On April 6 of the same year he was elected treasurer at the founding meeting of the New England Numismatic and Archaeological Society. I
n 1869 Cook issued a 12-page listing, Coin and Medal Circular, Containing a Few Remarks on the American Series of Coins and Medals.
With a Little Brief Advice to the Inexperienced Collector.



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