Is this person asking too much of me ??

PQpeace · December 11, 2010 10:44AM

I have my pictures taken by Todd for my website,and Collectors corner.
I think they are as good or better than 95% of the websites out there.Many sites use scans or worse.

I got this question from an Ebayer asking for this:

Larry,

Would you please send some pics taken with light from a northern exposure window ??

Why would he want this ? He seems to be irritated that I haven't knocked a hole in my northern wall to install a window and do what he wants

Here is the coin in question.

Thanks for your replies.
Toned Dollar

MidLifeCrisis · December 11, 2010 10:48AM

Seems like a pretty silly request to me.

CaptHenway · December 11, 2010 10:48AM

He is being a smart asp. Northern lighting is most desireable for painting in. He is alleging that your coin is "painted." Ignore him.
TD

Ahrensdad · December 11, 2010 10:48AM

Interesting request. I would say (if true--I assume it is) the pics fairly depict the coin and restate your return policy.

mrpotatoheadd · December 11, 2010 10:51AM

<< Would you please send some pics taken with light from a northern exposure window ?? >>

In all my years on eBay, I've never had a potential bidder who asked for more pictures (and received them) end up as the winning bidder.

I don't do extra pictures on request anymore.

TomB · December 11, 2010 10:51AM

Would it be possible for you to shoot some images using the first rays of the morning sun and then send them to me, too? Thanks!!!

llafoe · December 11, 2010 10:55AM

Is there enough margin in the coin to install a "free" window to the northern side of your home?

PQpeace · December 11, 2010 10:55AM

Here is his response when I asked him why ?

Larry,

To clarify, the blues on the top look like the very pretty and strong blues found adjacent to St Thomas in the caribbean, and Ms Liberty's hair and the area near her bonnet has a fair amount of hot pink. And the coin has these colors without shedding very bright light on it or increasing the saturation of the digital image with image editing techniques? What I want to see is how the coin will appear in my hand with existing daylight while being in the house without having the sunlight shine directly on it. Thanks.

Rick

He should buy the coin,and return it within 7 days if the blues aren't exactly like St. Thomas

mrpotatoheadd · December 11, 2010 10:58AM

Three words...

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Bayard1908 · December 11, 2010 11:01AM

I think he's asking for a photo taken in natural light so he can get an idea of what the coin actually looks like in hand. He may be concerned your photos are juiced. If you explain that the photos accurately represent how the coin looks in hand, I wouldn't be surprised if that satisfies him.

Broadstruck · December 11, 2010 11:02AM

<< He seems to be irritated that I haven't knocked a hole in my northern wall to install a window and do what he wants >>

PQpeace, Your a well respected dealer with 100% feedback who's offering a 7 day no question asked return option.

You need to do nothing else as he can knock a hole in his own wall when it arrives and send it back if it doesn't suit his fancy.

Edited to add: You could let him know that the imaging of your coins is not done in-house.

SeaEagleCoins · December 11, 2010 11:05AM

<< Would it be possible for you to shoot some images using the first rays of the morning sun and then send them to me, too? Thanks!!!

>>

Personally, I would prefer images with the setting sun...

Justacommeman · December 11, 2010 11:06AM

<< Would it be possible for you to shoot some images using the first rays of the morning sun and then send them to me, too? Thanks!!!

>>

And can you make me some waffles and crispy bacon while you're at it. Coffee black please..................Thank you. MJ

PQpeace · December 11, 2010 11:09AM

I have already told him that I use a PRO,and do not juice my pics.

I haven't been to ST.Thomas in a few years,so maybe I will fly there,and compare the water to this coin..that will be full service..

I will tell him to just buy the coin,so settle for a picture from my backyard facing north...

I am pretty sure he would just return it anyway..

AUandAG · December 11, 2010 11:11AM

Tell him that Todd didn't have a northern exposure and thus just used
daylight lighting to take the pics.

Or tell him to kiss the northern exposure of a southbound buffalo.

bob

BlindedByEgo · December 11, 2010 11:25AM

Block him now. He's trying to give you the Northern Exposure™ worm.

Mark · December 11, 2010 11:31AM

Larry:

Would you please send me the GIS coordinates at which the pricture was taken?

notwilight · December 11, 2010 11:38AM

LoL. I'd like a photo lit only by the warm afterglow.

Aegis3 · December 11, 2010 11:45AM

<< I have my pictures taken by Todd for my website,and Collectors corner.
I think they are as good or better than 95% of the websites out there.Many sites use scans or worse.

I got this question from an Ebayer asking for this:

Larry,

Would you please send some pics taken with light from a northern exposure window ??

Why would he want this ? He seems to be irritated that I haven't knocked a hole in my northern wall to install a window and do what he wants

Here is the coin in question.

Thanks for your replies.
Toned Dollar >>

Since it's winter in the northern hemisphere, I think you'd get a better angle with a southern exposed window in the southern hemisphere.

pendragon1998 · December 11, 2010 11:51AM

I would like to see the coin by the light of the hunter moon while it is at 30 degrees west of its zenith from a latitude between 29.5 and 30.5 North. Angle the light over the 290 degree mark across the face of the coin, and place a level and a compass in the photo so I can be sure the tilt of the coin and its orientation are correct. Also, please have the background in the photo be a current issue of the New York Times (page B-3).

Thanks!

Oh yeah...

he won't be happy no matter how many hoops you jump through, so I wouldn't sell it to him unless he paid cash in a Wal-Mart parking lot and signed a non-contact restraining order first. I'd refuse the transaction if it was me.

BAJJERFAN · December 11, 2010 11:51AM

Have you considered indecent exposure too?

savoyspecial · December 11, 2010 11:56AM

he's coming right out and telling you in advance that he will be a high maintenence customer

blu62vette · December 11, 2010 11:57AM

Larry-

Please send me and the coin on a trip to Brazil so it can be imaged properly. Or maybe Australia.

Todd.

tydye · December 11, 2010 12:10PM

What a PITA. I would block him

rld14 · December 11, 2010 12:16PM

<< Three words...

Blocked
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I was thinking of 3 different words...

Prozac
Xanax
Valium

ProofCents · December 11, 2010 12:20PM

I think he's just messing with you

CaptHenway · December 11, 2010 12:39PM

Offer to shoot it during the total lunar eclipse coming up around 1 A.M. on the 21st........

roadrunner · December 11, 2010 1:00PM

What, no mention of Halley's comet?

roadrunner

ldhair · December 11, 2010 1:22PM

I can think of a few images to send him. The rules here keep me from posting them.

NotSure · December 11, 2010 1:48PM

<< Three words...

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mrpotatohead...while we may not agree on shipping, I agree with you on THIS 110%!

keepdachange · December 11, 2010 2:40PM

I would take a picture of my as

w/ light from a northern exposure and send it to him

PQpeace · December 11, 2010 2:42PM

Thanks guys...made my adding tons of newps a bit easier

customroll · December 11, 2010 4:42PM

Just tell him that is taken with a Northern exposure, but the window was closed at the time of the photo. and probably a little dirty.

CaptHenway · December 11, 2010 10:38PM

Tell him it is a multi-pane window, just like him!!!!

kahokia · December 11, 2010 11:09PM

You could offer to give the coin a quick dip if he doesn't like the color.

coinguy1 · December 11, 2010 11:43PM

Would you guys be so tough on the person making the request if he had merely asked something to the effect of: "Dear seller, could you send me other images which show the coin without direct light on it?"?

That, very well, might be what he was seeking. He was polite and asked about a coin that is listed at approximately 19.9 times bid. I sure wouldn't block him based on that, and depending on my time and my mood, would probably try to accommodate him.

CaptHenway · December 12, 2010 12:24AM

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, but sometimes a damp fool is just a damp fool.

coinguy1 · December 12, 2010 12:56AM

<< Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, but sometimes a damp fool is just a damp fool.

>>

And sometimes, for a seller, it is worth spending a few minutes to find out.

We're talking about a four figure MS64 common date Morgan here, so I can understand why a would be bidder might want to know what he would be getting for his money. Please note, I am not picking on Larry, but rather, just looking at things from the other side.

Cratylus · December 12, 2010 1:09AM

Your response should be polite, explanatory, yet peppered with the same level of inference and inconvenience he has demonstrated. Try something like this:

Dear Sir:
As any artist or photographer will tell you, the natural light in any given location is different than all other locations on the globe.
Therefore, unless I was to come to your house and take a picture of the coin, any photographic work I do at my home will not give
you an accurate representation of what the coin will look like where you live. Moreover, considering that light characteristics change
due to the kind and amount of cloud cover, the time of day, the season of the year, the ambient temperature, the level of humidity,
the environmental surroundings which add reflected light to the natural sunlight, the type and thickness of window glass that is
filtering the light, etc. I will be unable to accurately reproduce what this coin will look like in your living room at any given time.

However, if you would kindly provide the exact environmental conditions you would like me to duplicate, I would be happy to fulfill
your request. Since it could take months or years for the conditions in my location to be considerably close to the conditions you
specify, I presume you don't mind the potentially considerable wait for the updated photos until those precise conditions are met.

Best Regards...
Larry

keepdachange · December 12, 2010 1:11AM

<< Your response should be polite, explanatory, yet peppered with the same level of inference and inconvenience he has demonstrated. Try something like this:

Dear Sir:
As any artist or photographer will tell you, the natural light in any given location is different than all other locations on the globe.
Therefore, unless I was to come to your house and take a picture of the coin, any photographic work I do at my home will not give
you an accurate representation of what the coin will look like where you live. Moreover, considering that light characteristics change
due to the kind and amount of cloud cover, the time of day, the season of the year, the ambient temperature, the level of humidity,
the environmental surroundings which add reflected light to the natural sunlight, the type and thickness of window glass that is
filtering the light, etc. I will be unable to accurately reproduce what this coin will look like in your living room at any given time.

However, if you would kindly provide the exact environmental conditions you would like me to duplicate, I would be happy to fulfill
your request. Since it could take months or years for the conditions in my location to be considerably close to the conditions you
specify, I presume you don't mind the potentially considerable wait for the updated photos until those precise conditions are met.

Best Regards...
Larry >>

Brilliant

BAJJERFAN · December 12, 2010 1:16AM

Some of the comments here would lead one to believe that if you are looking for advice on certain matters that this would be one of the last places that one should go. I would simply tell him that I can't conveniently honor his request, but if he is unhappy with the item that he can return it. Even if you could send other pics, they still might not truly represent the coin.

FWIW IMO that coin does not shout out rainbow in the same way that this one does.

WinPitcher · December 12, 2010 1:20AM

<< He is being a smart asp. Northern lighting is most desireable for painting in. He is alleging that your coin is "painted." Ignore him. TD >>

This may be the correct reply. When painting a room a northern exposure light is most desirable for having colors appear natural.

Coinguy could also be correct too. I'd simply ask him why in a follow up email and if he says the above than perhaps he was not being a SA.

You could look it...............

bestclser1 · December 12, 2010 1:22AM

Larry,Some folks are never happy,and if the customer is new he has to earn his bones so to speak.JMO

LindeDad · December 12, 2010 1:32AM

Tell him that off site imaging is used and additional images are not available.

Patches · December 12, 2010 1:35AM

I would just block him, I don't even care if he's a potential buyer and it's a real question. These type of customers for me have the highest return rates for me on eBay, and I'd be willing to bet it's real close to 100%. (FYI, I've only had 3 returns in all my years of eBay experience, but I remember these folks all returning the coins who asked irritating questions like this)

coinguy1 · December 12, 2010 1:41AM

<< I would just block him, I don't even care if he's a potential buyer and it's a real question. These type of customers for me have the highest return rates for me on eBay, and I'd be willing to bet it's real close to 100%. (FYI, I've only had 3 returns in all my years of eBay experience, but I remember these folks all returning the coins who asked irritating questions like this) >>

Or maybe those who go to the trouble to ask questions in advance (as opposed to after the fact) tend to have lower return rates.

SamByrd · December 12, 2010 1:44AM

<< 

<< Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, but sometimes a damp fool is just a damp fool.

>>

And sometimes, for a seller, it is worth spending a few minutes to find out.

We're talking about a four figure MS64 common date Morgan here, so I can understand why a would be bidder might want to know what he would be getting for his money. Please note, I am not picking on Larry, but rather, just looking at things from the other side. >>

reasonable response. I would say yes or no to the request for more images and also be polite as the buyer was in his question. Maybe the buyer is a pain but more like he is simply wanting some more information to make a significant purchase.

mdwoods · December 12, 2010 1:46AM

The guy is an ultra maroon. Everyone knows you need the photo taken with light from a southern window.

Patches · December 12, 2010 1:51AM

<< 

<< I would just block him, I don't even care if he's a potential buyer and it's a real question. These type of customers for me have the highest return rates for me on eBay, and I'd be willing to bet it's real close to 100%. (FYI, I've only had 3 returns in all my years of eBay experience, but I remember these folks all returning the coins who asked irritating questions like this) >>

Or maybe those who go to the trouble to ask questions in advance (as opposed to after the fact) tend to have lower return rates. >>

not for me, I already wrote they don't...they're high maintenance people...I'm not a dealer, and just like to get my extras sold.

tahoe98 · December 12, 2010 1:52AM

...could've been worse. he may have requested a pic by moonlight.

chumley · December 12, 2010 1:57AM

and all this time I thought Larry was just a great coin dealer....didnt realize he was avaliable for public abuse

Is this person asking too much of me ??

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